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Posted by gcsod45 (Member # 3639) on August 27, 2010, 10:23 PM:
Ok as some of you realize I am relatively new to predator hunting. I have not obtained any calls yet and due to a tight budget I am not sure when that will happen. I am looking for suggestions on calls for Coyote and other predators. Also if anyone out there have calls they might want to part with let me know what and how much at gcsod45@yahoo.com . Also for a beginner like myself is it better to use a manual call or an electronic call? Thanks for the help.
Posted by Krustyklimber (Member # 72) on August 28, 2010, 11:26 AM:
GC,
If your budget is so tight you can't afford calls, you probably need to find a new hobby. ![[Wink]](wink.gif)
For less than the price of a tank of gas and a box of bullets, you could purchase a fairly decent collection of mass produced hand ("manual") calls.
Allpredatorcalls.com carries pretty much everything you could need.
On this page you'll see the CritR Call - Standard model ($10.50), and the Johnny Stewart PC-3 ($8.95).
And on this page you'll see APC's super cheap closed reed Keychain Call (for just $3.95).
You could go hog wild, and add Haydel's Government Hunter Jackrabbit Distress ($12.95), from this page, and end up with a more than adequate arsenal of handcalls with which to get started.
If you left off the Keychain Call, you'd have a total cash outlay (before shipping) of $32.40.
*A trip to the local sporting goods chain store, or even Wal•Mart, might save you shipping costs.
Now some of the other users here might say you should alter this selection a bit and will mention particular calls/models I haven't, and Leonard would likely admonish me if I were to neglect to mention the highly versatile and affordable diaphram calls (like turkey and elk hunters use), but even with the addition of another handful of calls we're talking about a very reasonable investment.
I'll go way out on a limb here, and say you don't need an electronic caller, at least not just to get started, and even when and if you do get to the point of wanting to use electronically produced sounds, you won't need that latest and greatest high dollar offerings.
Buying hand calls, used, won't save you much (if anything, with shipping), but buying an e-caller used will. Electronics become downgraded with the advent of new models, and sometimes these newer models aren't all that much of an improvement (to the point that they would relegate the older models as useless).
One man's trash is another man's treasure.
Krusty 
*Edit to fix links.
[ August 28, 2010, 11:28 AM: Message edited by: Krustyklimber ]
Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on August 28, 2010, 01:39 PM:
We can kick this around the campfire at the campout 'til the sun comes up, but basically, Krusty is correct in concept. I would recommend starting out with a closed reed call such as the Circe 'Trophy' model with a jackrabbit reed. Naturally, I would also suggest watching EBay under 'predator call' for a Weems 'Dual-Tone'. The Crit-R-Call 'Standard' that he mentioned is an open reed call that everyone should have at least one of. A bit harder to learn to use than a closed reed call, but well worth the trouble. Once you learn to use it you can make distress cries, howls, pup yips, & elk bugles. If you're a bit more talented than I am, it will also make passable crow caws, turkey putts, and possibly even call ducks.
Once you have a Circe, a Weems & a Crit-R-Call, you'll have all that you really will ever need. Once you call in a few coyotes though, you'll be hooked and buy every other call on the market.
Then we'll talk about electronics.............
Posted by Dave Allen (Member # 3102) on August 28, 2010, 02:25 PM:
I'm with Koko..
Just my opinion I think a new coyote hunter should cut his teeth on hand calls.
I don't own an electronic caller yet, but may, as I can see some advantages.
When I started coyote hunting, only 10 years ago, I bought some hand calls, work then was a 10 mile drive each way mostly on country roads, I practiced blowing those calls to and from work everyday to build my confidence.
Some folks sure gave me some goofy looks though
Posted by Paul Melching (Member # 885) on August 28, 2010, 04:31 PM:
Hand calls will call the predator to you! There is nothing more satisfying than bringing one in face to face. The only advantage I have found with electronics is that I can bring the critter into the caller allowing me to get away wih a little more movement and of course the element of surprise and ambush. If you are just startig out sitting statue still is something that you will want to work on. enjoy practicing with new hand calls it'll drive her nuts thats why most do it in the car while driving alone and looking like a nut to fellow drivers. Good luck on your new adventure.
Posted by Nikonut (Member # 188) on August 28, 2010, 06:57 PM:
I can agree with a little of all that has been said! Maybe even a lot!
I make my own calls like Krusty and a few others here so the satisfaction of calling a coyote or cat in to me is what makes hunting predators even more exciting for me.
I think that hand calling a predator in will also help teach you stand location, good calling technique, scent control, and confidence.
Those are the basics to calling with either hand calls or electronics but you have less latitude for mistakes when hand calling directly to you as the sound source!
Nikonut
Posted by Lone Howl (Member # 29) on August 29, 2010, 05:29 PM:
What they said...
Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on August 29, 2010, 08:17 PM:
quote:
Those are the basics to calling with either hand calls or electronics but you have less latitude for mistakes when hand calling directly to you as the sound source!
I guess it depends alot on what part of the country you are calling in. My caller is in most cases right by me when calling and there seems to be time to make any adjustments if needed without the coyote spotting me..
Posted by gcsod45 (Member # 3639) on August 30, 2010, 01:59 AM:
Hey thanks for all the great advise on the calls. There is alot of great knowledge that I appreciate being shared with me. Krusty's info is what has me thinking the most....can I really afford a new hobby,, I guess time will tell. I guess I can take a second job as a door greeter at wal mart hey and then I could get a discount on their calls. Well if I stick it out I will try to meet yall at the campout. Happy Hunting All
Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on August 30, 2010, 05:02 AM:
Door greeters at WalMart get PAID????? I thought that they just got to flirt with college girls all evening. ![[Cool]](cool.gif)
Posted by Krustyklimber (Member # 72) on August 30, 2010, 08:57 AM:
GC,
Seriously though, coyote hunting doesn't have to be an expensive hobby.
A second hand shotgun or a single shot rifle (like the Handi-Rifle) can be had for about $100. Camo can be as simple as an old set of cotton duck Carhart jacket and pants, or Dickies khaki work clothes.
So, for many of us, just getting to and from someplace to call is the most costly aspect.
Even though I teased you about finding a different hobby, my real point was that calls don't have to be expensive either.
Krusty
Posted by Alaskan Yoter (Member # 169) on August 30, 2010, 11:46 AM:
If you already hunt, you probably have everything ya need, except a $7 call. ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
Wish I could back up Nut, but I have no proof that he spins calls! ![[Razz]](tongue.gif)
Posted by Rich (Member # 112) on August 30, 2010, 01:03 PM:
"I guess it depends alot on what part of the country you are calling in. My caller is in most cases right by me when calling and there seems to be time to make any adjustments if needed without the coyote spotting me.."
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I reckon you have been busted many times. The advantage of placing the speaker cross-wind of you is too large to ignore.
Posted by Cdog911 (Member # 7) on August 30, 2010, 01:43 PM:
"I guess it depends alot on what part of the country you are calling in. My caller is in most cases right by me when calling and there seems to be time to make any adjustments if needed without the coyote spotting me.. "
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I can't believe I'm saying this, but Cronk got you there, Tim. Seems like a waste of good money to spend all that cash on a dandy new e-caller, walk a half-mile in for your set up, then be too lazy and unmotivated to walk it out another fifty yards or so to benefit from what the danged thing was built for in the first place. LOL
Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on August 30, 2010, 05:47 PM:
LOL ! You guys just don't get it.. Maybe in Iowa or Kansas you need the caller placed out from you 50 feet or so but I don't.. Maybe you should both look deeper into how you set up youre stands and fix whats wrong, you might pick-up a few more coyotes every year...... ![[Roll Eyes]](rolleyes.gif)
Posted by Rich (Member # 112) on August 30, 2010, 06:34 PM:
"LOL ! You guys just don't get it.. Maybe in Iowa or Kansas you need the caller placed out from you 50 feet or so but I don't.. Maybe you should both look deeper into how you set up youre stands and fix whats wrong, you might pick-up a few more coyotes every year."
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Oh WE get it Tim. Some guys will NEVER get it though. Stand-up comedian Ron White tells about how medical science can fix terrible diseases and all, but let me tell ya folks---You can't FIX stupid. You sir, will never know how many times you have been busted. Why? Hell I can't explain that one for ya. ROFLMAO!!!!!!
Posted by coyote whacker (Member # 639) on August 30, 2010, 07:07 PM:
Ta17 I many times will have the caller away from me, makes sense as this is one of the biggest advanatges to an e caller in IMO. Nothing wrong in having the caller away from you as long as you don;t exspose yourself to those coyotes. In fact knowing the coyotes and terrain and caller placement can bring those coyotes in really close like feet close if one wants. Plus you can get by with more having the caller at some distance over no distance from you. Volume,realism and turning those coyotes into shooting lanes that give you an advantage are all reasons for an e caller.
Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on August 30, 2010, 08:25 PM:
quote:
Nothing wrong in having the caller away from you as long as you don;t exspose yourself to those coyotes. In fact knowing the coyotes and terrain and caller placement can bring those coyotes in really close like feet close if one wants.
I've never said placeing a E-caller out from youre stand is a bad thing and I'm sure it works well for others its just that I've never had a reason to do so. I believe stand selection is more important than caller placement and my set-ups work for me. Oh yeah I've been busted by a few coyotes but not because of where my caller was placed but due to not getting my truck far enough out of site. But that was no big deal, I just move on the coyote and made another stand and finished the deal..
As for how close I want the coyote I prefer 100-200 yds.
Rich you give coyotes way to much credit, perhaps thats why you are still struggleing with youre's..LOL
[ August 30, 2010, 08:29 PM: Message edited by: TA17Rem ]
Posted by Nikonut (Member # 188) on August 30, 2010, 10:48 PM:
quote:
Wish I could back up Nut, but I have no proof that he spins calls!
You caught me again Todd!
Someday I'll get a set made and sent to Tundraville! Someday!
Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on August 31, 2010, 04:52 AM:
For me, in the terrain & topography that I hunt, I want the caller to be about 20 to 75 yards away from me (depending on rifle, shotgun, bow, or atlatl) on the upwind side of me. Works for me; YMMV.
However; From some of the photos that Tim has posted of his wide open, kind of rolling hills, where a coyote can be spotted coming in from 4 or 5 hundred yards out, I would think that exposing oneself placing the caller in the 'right' spot would cost you more coyotes than bringing them right to you would. Again, YMMV.
Same thing with this holding the caller up over your head & waving it around. In my hunting areas that would be at best of no value & at worst counterproductive. In the wide open rolling hills though, it might have merit.
Just because a calling style doesn't work in all situations does not mean that it's not a valid style in certain places. Up in Krusty Korners on the Wet Side of Wash. the neat trick is to find a bend in a skid road coming off of a clear-cut & call from there. (It's the only place that you'll be able to see for 20 yards in that rain forrest.) Down here in the desert, that neat trick is pretty much a waste of time.
I don't often hunt short grass, wide open, rolling hills, but if I ever do happen upon such a stand I'll at least keep Tim's ideas in mind when setting it up.
When it comes to thinking, the only difference between a rut & a grave is the length.
Posted by Rich (Member # 112) on August 31, 2010, 05:36 AM:
Coyotes can see and hear a lot better than people can. Is a hunter who walks quietly out cross-wind some fifty yards to position his caller more likely to be seen than the hunter who waves his W.T. around like a flag while said W.T. is loudly singing sad screams? Think about it.
Posted by Possumal (Member # 823) on August 31, 2010, 07:16 AM:
Rich, old Tim is never gonna get it. I have never heard of an experienced coyote hunter who does not believe that movement on stand is your worst enemy. For a guy to want to wave an ecaller over his head with the sound coming from where he is is worse than stupid. I would bet he gets busted from so far away that he never even sees the coyotes.
Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on August 31, 2010, 07:31 AM:
quote:
Coyotes can see and hear a lot better than people can. Is a hunter who walks quietly out cross-wind some fifty yards to position his caller more likely to be seen than the hunter who waves his W.T. around like a flag while said W.T. is loudly singing sad screams? Think about it
I agree but the coyotes hear pick-ups all the time driveing up and down the roads and two tracks and also hear doors opening and closeing..
The first time I hunted with Scott he mentioned that I should just close the pick-up door rather than push on it gently and make more noise. Been doing it that way ever since and the coyotes don't seem to mind. Sure they may have heard the door close but they hear it all the time from the ranchers comeing and going...
A couple of years ago I had a group of coyotes staying close to a road and they would spot anything that drove or walked into the pasture it was almost impossable getting to them. One mourning I spotted the rancher driveing into the pasture to check on his cows so I drove in right behind him and then pulled off the two track once I was past the area where the coyotes liked to hang out and made my stand and got my coyote..
When a hunter walks out to make a stand he is exsposeing himself to any coyotes laying on a hillside and most hunters also stick out like a sore thumb in their fancy hardwoods or tree bark camo, some coyotes may spot them some may not and some may not care..
When I move my caller from side to side I'm in a sitting position and have some sort of backing, they see nothing!!
When I go into a area to set up I take the weather conditions into account.
Is there snow on the ground? Has it been melting? Is it cold out (-32) ? Has the wind been blowing hard?
These conditions will dictate on how you approach a calling area and how you set up..
Example: No snow on the ground, high temps around 80 degrees. The coyotes are most likely bedded in a low area thats shaded like a deep cut drainage.
Snow on the ground and has been melting. The coyotes are bedded up on high ground laying on hill side that have no snow.
Snow on the ground and a good stiff wind. The coyotes are bedded on down-wind side of hill or at the upper end of a small drainage that empty's into a larger one and laying in the sun..
You can locate them to know exactly where they are and take into account the weather conditions and use hills for cover to move in set up and call without being seen..
My system works or I would'nt have any pic.'s of dead coyotes if it did'nt..
Think about it.............
[ August 31, 2010, 07:37 AM: Message edited by: TA17Rem ]
Posted by Rich (Member # 112) on August 31, 2010, 11:04 AM:
"You can locate them to know exactly where they are and take into account the weather conditions and use hills for cover to move in set up and call without being seen.."
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Why bother with that if you are gonna screw it all up when you start calling?
"When I move my caller from side to side I'm in a sitting position and have some sort of backing, they see nothing!!"
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LOL Tim, I give up. South Dakota coyotes must be blind. Just keep talking Tim, you almost have me believing you. I know that you actually manage to shoot a coyote once in awhile. Just goes to show us that even doing it wrong will sometimes work. Call however you want sir, it is a free country.
Posted by Kelly Jackson (Member # 977) on August 31, 2010, 12:09 PM:
I have been working all summer, well for the last 10 minutes at least and thought this post would be a good time to release my “lastest” coyote calling aid.
Tried of unnecessary movement spooking your coyotes while broadcasting your sounds 180 degrees in front of you?
Problem solved. For just $19.99 you too can equip your call with the all new
BUCKET HEAD
Adapter kit.
But wait there’s more. Remember for $19.99 we will ship the Bucket Head call adapter kit and throw in fully self contained decoy system that is sure to maximize your success.
Just add extra shipping and handling.
Note: ecaller and coyotes pictured not included for this price.
Stay after them
Kelly
[ August 31, 2010, 12:29 PM: Message edited by: Kelly Jackson ]
Posted by Nikonut (Member # 188) on August 31, 2010, 12:24 PM:
Now that's funny!!!!
Does it come in other colors? I hear TA and Leonard both like treebark camo...
LMAO!!!!
Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on August 31, 2010, 12:41 PM:
Is there room in that bucket for a small cooler to hold a couple of beverages?????
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on August 31, 2010, 02:15 PM:
How much for the dummy?
Posted by Paul Melching (Member # 885) on August 31, 2010, 02:22 PM:
Kelly that picture is indellibly etched in my mind
Thats some funny shit right there!
[ August 31, 2010, 02:23 PM: Message edited by: Paul Melching ]
Posted by Rich (Member # 112) on August 31, 2010, 02:45 PM:
"How much for the dummy?"
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The dummy is free Leonard, he been posting here for quite sometime. He will likely be AWOL for awhile, but not to worry, he will return.
Posted by Rich (Member # 112) on August 31, 2010, 02:52 PM:
Kelly Jackson,
Your amazing presentation of the new Bucket Head calling kit has won you a brand new CRONK "KILLER CALL". E mail your shipping address to cronkcalls@cox.net and I will mail your prize to you.
Posted by Randy Roede (Member # 1273) on August 31, 2010, 03:23 PM:
Kelly, LMAO!!!
Posted by Dan Carey (Member # 987) on August 31, 2010, 04:05 PM:
I would be interested in being the west coast distributor for your new bucket. What would 100 of them cost me up front to get started?
Posted by Kelly Jackson (Member # 977) on August 31, 2010, 04:14 PM:
Too late Dan. Paul has the West already spoken for and has joined the Team Bucket Head Field Staff. The North and East are still open, but I expect calls later this evening. Response has been great so far.
Rich - Thank you very much, and as I already own one of your fine Killer calls, I would asked that you throw in a closed reed jackrabbit and pass this offer on to GCSOD45 and get him started right.
Stay after them
Kelly
[ August 31, 2010, 04:15 PM: Message edited by: Kelly Jackson ]
Posted by Possumal (Member # 823) on August 31, 2010, 05:12 PM:
Kelly, you are not only a great Bucket Head artist, you are a great guy too. That will help the newbie out a bunch.
Posted by Nikonut (Member # 188) on August 31, 2010, 06:15 PM:
Very nice twist Kelly!
Rich... That Kelly is a peach, isn't he! Proud to know both of you fellas!
Nikonut
Posted by Paul Melching (Member # 885) on August 31, 2010, 06:22 PM:
Boy it didnt take Carey long to see a good thing
Dan if you want to advertise them online I will make a drop ship arrangement with you for the Florence sector.
Posted by Rich (Member # 112) on August 31, 2010, 06:48 PM:
"Rich - Thank you very much, and as I already own one of your fine Killer calls, I would asked that you throw in a closed reed jackrabbit and pass this offer on to GCSOD45 and get him started right."
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That is a great idea Kelly!
Posted by Dan Carey (Member # 987) on August 31, 2010, 08:01 PM:
"Boy it didnt take Carey long to see a good thing
Dan if you want to advertise them online I will make a drop ship arrangement with you for the Florence sector."
No gonna happen boy son. I already sent a prototype to Mr. Wong in China for a for a price to supply me with a million buckets. ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
Posted by Paul Melching (Member # 885) on September 01, 2010, 03:55 AM:
Oh! crap walmarted again......
Posted by gcsod45 (Member # 3639) on September 01, 2010, 06:30 AM:
Kelly that is just to damn funny. And thanks so much for passing the call on to me. I guess with people like you on this site i am gonna have to reject Krusty's suggestion and stay with this hobby. Thanks Again. I think KOKO can help get that design of yours into walmart.
Posted by gcsod45 (Member # 3639) on September 01, 2010, 06:37 AM:
I was thinking with Kelly's bucket device and Koko's hawian camo and blue googles a coyote wouldn't stand a chance.......if it got close enough to see you it would die laughing.
Posted by knockemdown (Member # 3588) on September 01, 2010, 07:46 AM:
KJ,
I'll forward you the $$$ for a bucket to be NE regional Team Buckethead field staff. And if you've got a "mini-kiyi-bucket" in the works for Pepper, send one of those up my way as well, would ya?
(hope that didn't spoil a potential new product release)
And well played with the call, both to you & Mr. Cronk! You are gentlemen...
Posted by Rich (Member # 112) on September 01, 2010, 09:23 AM:
gcsod45,
I need your shipping address so I can send you your new call and instruction CD. cronkcalls@cox.net
Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on September 01, 2010, 08:44 PM:
GCSOD45; (What the hell kind of screen name is that, anyway??)
The 'look' is really 'the secret' to success.
Coyote sees my bright shirt & thinks that I can't possibly be a threat............bang / flop.
Coyote sees Nikon's Treebark & figures that the guy's hopelessly outdated..............bang /flop.
Coyote sees Tim waving a caller around and knows that it's an amature over there..............bang / flop.
Kelly's 'Bucket Head' fits right in perfectly. We'll teach you this important stuff as you go along. Remember; we're here to help.
Posted by Krustyklimber (Member # 72) on September 01, 2010, 09:21 PM:
Dammit why does there always have to be an exception to the rule?
Coyote sees Krusty and figures he must be lost... wait, no coyote!
Krusty
Posted by trapper2 (Member # 3651) on September 02, 2010, 03:45 PM:
ok i'm new here, been reading awhile but had to sign up for this one. year or so ago tim was nice enough to pm me and tell me how wrong i was when i siad that a fox pro and a wt would both call in a coyote, i use a wt but at the time thought that a fp would call one in, i was wrong i guess, he was also nice enough to to enlighten me with some more help, told me to go find a gov't trapper to hunt with and they would teach me more then i would ever dream of, well i cant find one so i thought since you are just afew hours away kelly that you might take me hunting alittle so i could learn from you. i know your not a gov't man but i can tell by the pics that you must know what your doing so please take me and share your wisdom
Posted by CrossJ (Member # 884) on September 02, 2010, 04:18 PM:
Hello Ryan!
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on September 02, 2010, 06:34 PM:
Welcome to the New HuntmastersBBS.com, trapper2. Glad to have you on board.
Geordie, you know this man? Dang, you must know everyone in the state? Leastwise, the important ones. Is that Okie talk? Leastwise?
Good hunting. LB
Posted by Cdog911 (Member # 7) on September 02, 2010, 07:48 PM:
Geordie's kinda tall and Oklahoma is kinda flat. Probably just sees them from a distance.
Posted by CrossJ (Member # 884) on September 02, 2010, 08:22 PM:
If I don't know them personally, I know some one who does. And Lance, I am not really that tall....the rest of you all are standing in a hole.
Maintain
Posted by Nikonut (Member # 188) on September 03, 2010, 01:18 AM:
Cool!
Another Okie!!!! Glad to see you here Ryan.
Hey Leonard, you holding up alright with all these Oklahoma guys signing up?
Nikonut
Posted by knockemdown (Member # 3588) on September 03, 2010, 05:27 AM:
Hey Ryan!
So are you telling us that TA contacted YOU and suggested that YOU seek out a gov't trapper to hunt with in your area?
All the while not knowing that YOU actually ARE a gov't trapper???
Man, you just CAN'T make that 'chit up!
(and that's not to say that some of us couldn't learn a thing , or 2 from KJ)
Hope your pup is still doing well...
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on September 03, 2010, 07:45 AM:
I'm getting real tired of Geordie always telling me I'm standing downhill!
Yeah, do we have a statutory limit, on Okies? Have we reached it? What if? All my neighbors accuse me of talking funny?
Good hunting. LB
Posted by trapper2 (Member # 3651) on September 03, 2010, 02:38 PM:
thanks for the welcome guys, yea another okie, but dont worry i'm not as important as the rest, shoot kelly wont even let me carry his shells for him. yea knockem thats how it happened, easy mistake but funny still the same
Posted by TOM64 (Member # 561) on September 03, 2010, 04:19 PM:
Just remember out of the current crop of okies I was here first!
But wait does that mean I get weeded out first?
No wait Brad was here before me.
Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on September 03, 2010, 06:16 PM:
I'm not sure what I said to trapper-2 since the mod.'s were tampering with P.M.'s and posts at the time on the OK board. Also at the time there was a flood of guys on different boards claiming to be ADC trappers.
Posted by jwelk (Member # 2051) on September 03, 2010, 07:46 PM:
Tim,Trapper2 was not on the OK board at that time.
Posted by TOM64 (Member # 561) on September 03, 2010, 09:12 PM:
Tim that's an out right lie.
Posted by TOM64 (Member # 561) on September 03, 2010, 09:18 PM:
FWIW there was an incident where someone may have read a PM and he has been gone for some time.
Don't try trashing the okie board because you got caught being you.
Posted by Nikonut (Member # 188) on September 03, 2010, 09:19 PM:
...And I don't think Tim knows how many of the members here are mods at the OPHA! LOL
quote:
Just remember out of the current crop of okies I was here first!
Good thing you put "current" in there! I've got you beat by a couple years!
Maybe we can get Leonard to come to the okie hunt sometime? Think we should start a donation page for his expenses?
Nikonut
Posted by TOM64 (Member # 561) on September 03, 2010, 09:20 PM:
Buckethead!
Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on September 04, 2010, 03:41 AM:
quote:
FWIW there was an incident where someone may have read a PM and he has been gone for some time.
Yes and that same person or perhaps another also tampered with some of my posts..
I was suppose to get an appoligy from said person and it never happened..
Posted by Dan Carey (Member # 987) on September 04, 2010, 08:40 AM:
The fact they can EVEN read anyone's PM's is inherently dishonest. Human nature being what it is, a good 50% of the admin in any site are paranoid and will read the PM's, pms comes to mind. As to the OK site I don't post there anymore, I was a topic in the backroom, accused of something I didn't do. I hate dishonest, chickenshit, back stabbing sites.
[ September 04, 2010, 08:41 AM: Message edited by: Dan Carey ]
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on September 04, 2010, 09:41 AM:
Well, yeah. I certainly had an issue with the okie board. Beyond chickenshit and they sure as hell were reading PM's, at the time. Okay, so that group of assholes are gone and I don't blame ALL Okies for the shameful actions of a few. But, reiterating what Dan wrote, it's pretty disgusting to know that some sites engage in the practice of reading personal messages. Are you listening, PM? That is why you will never see that feature here at Huntmasters. Not because I may be tempted to read private messages, but to demonstrate that HM respects the membership and wouldn't sink so low as to even offer that feature, sure as night follows day, here comes the temptation and the doubt in everyone's mind that it is possible and you can bet your ass, it is possible.
Good hunting. LB
Posted by trapper2 (Member # 3651) on September 04, 2010, 11:33 AM:
didnt mean to say something to bring up whatever happened on the ok board, no tim i have only been on there for about a yr now, but i know of two people on this board that remember when and where our deal took place, from some of the dandies that i have seen you write tim i am sure it would be hard for you to remember that one but it happened and you wrote it, cause then you came back wanting to be friendly and talk about denning and what sounds i liked on the wt the most. i just thought it was funny the way you made the flip as soon as you learned what i did for a living.
edit for spelling
[ September 04, 2010, 11:42 AM: Message edited by: trapper2 ]
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on September 04, 2010, 12:16 PM:
You are not at fault for any twist in the discussion, we do that here all the time. Hijacking a thread is common and encouraged.
Good hunting. LB
Posted by TOM64 (Member # 561) on September 04, 2010, 12:58 PM:
"they sure as hell were reading PM's"
"They" does not include mods, we don't have the capability to do anything beyond managing the forums we are assigned to.
As I said, he's long gone.
Posted by TOM64 (Member # 561) on September 04, 2010, 01:06 PM:
"As to the OK site I don't post there anymore, I was a topic in the backroom"
Sorry to disappoint you Dan but I just went and looked, you ain't there.
Posted by Nikonut (Member # 188) on September 04, 2010, 02:30 PM:
I think there might have been a discussion on Dan in the open forums at least once, maybe more, just can't remember. Never heard your name in the backroom, Dan!
So it was nothing very drastic I'm sure since it was in the open forum. Seems it's little things people take from a conversation that sets their mood and ways of thinking.
Tom's 100% about the mods not having any access. He's also right that the one(1!!!)person that was found to have read other's emails is gone for good reason! There is always an electronic trail if you look deep enough.
It's laughable that anyone, anywhere on the internet would expect their conversations or writings to be unreadable... to at least someone! Big Brother would bother me more than a friend or fellow member on a hunting site! LOL
Not saying either way is rightful, just I don't say anything that would bother me for friends to know.
Nikonut
Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on September 04, 2010, 02:52 PM:
Trapper-2; I did some looking after work today and yes you are correct I wrote it to you on Pred. masters correct??
Hope I did'nt hurt youre feelings or ego..
Like I said before there where alot of guys claiming to be ADC and I did'nt know if you were live or memorex..
Posted by Dan Carey (Member # 987) on September 04, 2010, 03:42 PM:
Well now, I'm pissed for sure. I like to be the center of attention, well at least honorable mention.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on September 04, 2010, 07:32 PM:
Just to ease your pain, Dan. People write me all the time and say that they met Dan Carey somewhere? It's always; "He shore is ugly!"
What can I say? "True, but he has a sweet personality" Then, they would be jumping on me! So, I just say, I've seen uglier...but I don't remember where?
Good hunting. LB (just kidding, we all love ya)
Posted by Nikonut (Member # 188) on September 04, 2010, 08:02 PM:
I sure wish I could make the Ronde this year!!!
It's bound to be a good one with all the threads I've read here recently!!!
Nikonut
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on September 04, 2010, 11:00 PM:
You could make it if you really wanted to.
Posted by Nikonut (Member # 188) on September 05, 2010, 12:05 AM:
quote:
You could make it if you really wanted to.
Leonard... if you knew everything that is going on in my life right now you would understand that it is absolutely impossible at this time.
Sure wish it was different and maybe by next year it will be. I'll be there if that happens!!!
Posted by Kelly Jackson (Member # 977) on September 07, 2010, 08:24 AM:
Ryan - I know you been lurking around here for a couple of years, can't believe it took the release of the Bucket Head to flush you out.
PS next time you are down this way working with Reggie give me a call. I'll buy supper.
Catch you later.
Kelly
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on September 07, 2010, 09:21 AM:
We snagged a lurker? I always wanted to interogate/waterboard one and find out why they do that. I can't imagine reading on a site for that long and not having something to say?
Maybe he's shy? Let's find out,k?
Good hunting. LB
Posted by highwayman (Member # 3656) on September 07, 2010, 10:47 AM:
hey guys
i started to feel like i was a lurker or somethin...
so
just thought i'd let yall know...
!!! new to here !!!
good to see some friends
lookin forward to the site
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on September 07, 2010, 10:54 AM:
Welcome to The New HuntmastersBBS.com, highwayman. Glad to have you on board.
Good hunting. LB
Posted by Nikonut (Member # 188) on September 07, 2010, 04:01 PM:
Good to see you made it over here Micheal!
Leonard can be brutal sometimes and Andy will drag you off to the backroom but it's all good mostly!!!
Hey Leonard, Charske's not even an okie, he's from Texas! How did that happen? ![[Eek!]](eek.gif)
Nikonut
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on September 07, 2010, 04:48 PM:
My screening program needs a little tweaking. Right now, all it seems to catch is Ruskies?
Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on September 07, 2010, 06:53 PM:
quote:
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You could make it if you really wanted to.
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Leonard... if you knew everything that is going on in my life right now you would understand that it is absolutely impossible at this time.
Sure wish it was different and maybe by next year it will be. I'll be there if that happens!!!
Just keep putting it off and it will never happen.. I made it to three of them and was glad I went. Leonard is a cool guy to hang with along with a few others...
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on September 07, 2010, 08:08 PM:
Thank you Tim.
But I occasionally get shit like this from spineless assholes:
Subj: give it up, ElBee
Date: 9/6/2010 9:56:34 PM Pacific Daylight Time
From: tudor11@yahoo.com
To: nbosin@aol.com
Sent from the Internet (Details)
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This email was sent via Anonymous email service for free.
YOU CAN REMOVE THIS TEXT MESSAGE BY BEING A PAID MEMBER FOR 12$/year.
Message ID= 102950
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Time to walk away from the computer and go hunting! You spend too much time glued to a keyboard, your rants the past few days make this so obvious.
Have you ever killed a predator? You've sure killed a bunch on the internet
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And, (of course) Mr Timid hides behind an anonymous name and a bogus addy. Why do jerks like this bother? I'd really like to know who really sent it and what makes a "man" like this tick.
Good hunting. LB
Posted by Nikonut (Member # 188) on September 07, 2010, 10:00 PM:
Tim,
I would absolutely be in awe if I ever got to meet you!
The time isn't right for me and if it was I would and when it is I will! I'll even bring my harmonica and you can do a "Mr. BoDangles" dance for us! LOL
Nikonut
Posted by knockemdown (Member # 3588) on September 16, 2010, 07:02 AM:
From here in the NE:
Preliminary results look promising, even without camo or proper melon engagement.
Should be all up & ready for next month...
Thanks KJ!
Posted by Rich (Member # 112) on September 16, 2010, 07:21 AM:
knockemdown ,
Nice Bucket head kit! TA17 is going to be jealous of you.
Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on September 16, 2010, 12:54 PM:
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm..............?????
If the bucket is polished, wouldn't that make the coyote self decoying with it's own reflection???? ![[Confused]](confused.gif)
I'm telling you guys........we need grant money for this important research!!!!!
And a group photo of BucketHeads at the Camp Out.
Posted by Nikonut (Member # 188) on September 16, 2010, 01:20 PM:
You guys are cetainly on to something here!
This is going to take the predator hunting community by storm... viral all the way!!!
Nikonut
Posted by Paul Melching (Member # 885) on September 16, 2010, 03:00 PM:
Kokopelli
Im working on a new envionmentally sensitive bucket made of 100% recylable hemp I'll bring one to the campout for you if you dont like it you can always burn it.
Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on September 16, 2010, 08:10 PM:
Paul;
I've never really been a hemp fan. I did, however, invent the 'EverClear Martini'.........after which there wasn't much need to ever drink much again.
Now I'm wondering if that caller with the built in mister could be loaded with EverClear to REALLY hold those downwind coyotes?????? Might not even need to shoot them; just load 'em up & take them straight to rehab.
Posted by TRnCO (Member # 690) on September 21, 2010, 06:09 PM:
Kelly, you're a genious!!! Quick, get a patent before it becomes a "Foxbucket"!!
Posted by Lone Howl (Member # 29) on September 21, 2010, 07:35 PM:
lol!
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