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Posted by Cdog911 (Member # 7) on March 24, 2006, 05:26 PM:
Guys,
Where can a guy find a good sun shade for the Burris Fullfield II 3X9-40? Just got my Howa bedded and pillared and I'm getting ready to order one of these scopes for it, but would like a sun shade to cut glare if they're available.
Posted by Clint (Member # 346) on March 24, 2006, 07:56 PM:
Id just say quit calling toward the sun. JK, i am not sure they are available. good scope choice i have a few and love them, they dont come any better at that price. but those signature's are very nice.
Clint
Posted by Cdog911 (Member # 7) on March 24, 2006, 08:00 PM:
LOL, I laughed anyway. I looked at the Burris site and they have them for other sized objectives, but not the 40. I did find one kind but they were made of soft rubber and, well, ... no. Thanks anyway.
Posted by Cal Taylor (Member # 199) on March 25, 2006, 06:03 AM:
CDog, As a word of friendly advice, spend a little extra and get a Signature series. It's worth it.
Posted by DAA (Member # 11) on March 25, 2006, 06:50 AM:
Lance, another friendly piece of advice. If you do find a sunshade, do yourself a favor and leave it off the rifle.
Or, if you decide that since you bought it, you're going to use it, at least try a little experiment with it.
Sometime when you are at the range. Fire a group or two. Then just kind of casually grab the rifle in such a way that you gently squeeze the sunshade towards the barrel. Then shoot another group. I think you'll be amazed at how little pressure it takes on that lever (sunshade) to change your zero. With an accurate rifle, you'll notice a shift in POI from a deflection of only one or two thousandths. And that big ass lever is capable of moving the objective a lot more than that, with very little effort (casual or accidental).
I used to think sunshades were pretty cool. Until I observed the above.
Same deal with using the ocular end of the scope as a place to hang your thumb for leverage while working the bolt. Only the sunshade has a lot more leverage.
- DAA
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on March 25, 2006, 10:29 AM:
I lost interest in sunshades when I found how much they cut available light in decidedly normal conditions. In other words, sun's out and the shade has some benefit. But when the sun is blocked by passing clouds, suddenly, at high magnification, you can't see hardly anything. And, now what do you do with it, unless you are steps away from your vehicle? I don't know, but I decided that heavy glare and summer conditions were mitigated by a sunshade, but the best application was to hold a rolled tube of paper or plastic to deflect radiated from the barrel while shooting squirrels and such. Never felt the need to screw one on a predator hunting rig; but I still think they look cool.
Good hunting. LB
Posted by Cdog911 (Member # 7) on March 25, 2006, 02:39 PM:
I'm not interested in looking cool. If I were, I'd have had hair implants a long time ago. LOL I'm also not stupid. Your advice is well taken and I've decided against a shade for the reasons you listed. Didn't realize the types of negatives to be suffered. Thanks.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on March 25, 2006, 03:46 PM:
No, not saying that, Lance. Nothing wrong with the "look" (I like "cool") and sunshades do have some application. But, for some reason, they seem to severly restrict the brightness of the scope, when the sky is party-cloudy, or when the sun is starting to drop on the horizon. But on the other hand, there have been times when I wished I had one; however briefly. Ya know, go get one and try it. Especially on the bench, they come in handy.
Good hunting. LB
Posted by JD (Member # 768) on March 25, 2006, 07:57 PM:
DAA makes an excellent point, but I still think they are a very useful tool, if you know the area your going to be in & what time of day, they can help quite a bit for those "planned" stands where glare would be a factor. But there are certainly some negatives to consider also. It seems that every silver lining has a cloud. ![[Wink]](wink.gif)
Posted by Tim Behle (Member # 209) on March 25, 2006, 10:03 PM:
Lance,
Put me down as another one who think that sunshades look cool. But they don't belong on a hunting rifle. I only have one, and it is on my Bench gun.
But maybe you should reconsider your stand on the hair implants.
Posted by Cdog911 (Member # 7) on March 27, 2006, 03:29 PM:
To be honest with ya, Tim, I prefer the low maintenance look. I get up in the morning, and one swipe with a wet wash cloth and I'm ready to go. Good looking as ever. If I get up, walk in the head and can tell by my hair that I just got up, it's time for a haircut. Even if I could grow it back, I probably wouldn't. If for no other reason than the wife likes the bristle-y feel of what I have left right after I get it cut. ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
I'm kinda leaning toward those soft shades I "spoke" of earlier. They're just a soft, flexible rubber tube that fits over the OD of the objective lens rather than screwing into place. They might be right handy to have in my pocket in the event I get into a setup where glare is an issue. Five seconds to put it on, less than that to take it off and put it back into the pocket.
Then again, I may forget the entire idea.
Posted by JD (Member # 768) on March 27, 2006, 04:06 PM:
Lance, where did you find the rubber shades?
Posted by Cdog911 (Member # 7) on March 27, 2006, 05:51 PM:
Just found this one. Pretty much the same as the ones I saw on (I believe) Ebay.
http://www.atvwest.com/fcart/main.php?productid=176&id=db7a297a7928a21409607d44c786f48e&first=1&sortby=age&category=Hunting+&+Fishing&id=db7a297a7928a21409607d44c786f48e
My main curiosity was whether the sun shades really do cut back on glare?
Posted by JD (Member # 768) on March 27, 2006, 06:24 PM:
IMO they cut the glare well enough to warrant owning one for those certain times you need one.
That thing seems like it would be much more convenient than a screw on type, my only concern is how easily it slides on, I wonder, would you have to put a bunch of pressure on the bell in order to get it on? Price aint terrible, might have to give it a try.
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