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Topic: Rabbits and Crows
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Norm
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posted January 02, 2004 03:39 PM
Tim, Bucksnort;
Any updates on your prototype tape of mixing crows and rabbit cries together?
If it is proving to be successful, I am going through my turkey callin stuff and find my crow call and do a little mixin of my own...
Thanks for the update...
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Cdog911
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posted January 02, 2004 04:20 PM
Hey, guys, I'm acutely interested in this as well. A buddy of mine just got back from the cow camps in CO where he is a cook. They tried unsuccessfully to call those mountain coyotes, until one of them started using a crow call to mimic a crow calling others to carrion. He said it seemed to really set those coyotes off for them to think that crows were getting fed and they finally started getting a few. What have been the results so far on this?
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Coyote_250
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posted January 04, 2004 12:52 PM
Over the years I have seen positive response to using the crow calls. Just this year, after one coyote was down in front of me another coyote was retreating from the report of the .223. After 10 min of howling, rabbit and coyote destress, I paused and then crow called. Coyote got up from sitting there and came straight in running full steam.
Another time after 30 min of waiting, some ravens flew over head and I took my black gloves off and started waving the gloves and cawing like ravens. Looked to my right to see a hard charging coyote that came in to less than 10 feet and tried circling me.
Bob
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Norm
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posted January 04, 2004 01:04 PM
Bob, that is positive feedback. Thanks.
I have my crow call now with my predator calls... I will be experimenting with it you can be certain.
Thanks again.
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albert
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posted January 04, 2004 02:31 PM
Bob, How do you caw like a raven? I am interested in this. Thanks
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Tim Behle
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posted January 04, 2004 04:09 PM
The biggest problem I have had is that you can't call what isn't there to hear it. This winter, the coyote numbers are way down. Hard to find even a track on some days.
But it does work when the coyotes are there to hear it.
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Coyote_250
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posted January 09, 2004 06:45 PM
Albert,
I simply immitate what they say. I do this with my own voice as I do many coyote vocalizations also.
Bob
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Barndog
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posted January 14, 2004 02:55 PM
We have tons of ravens here, do ravens and crows make the same sound? I've got to try the kaa kaa out.
My boss is from Hawaii,
they don't have coyotes on his island but they used to sound like an owl and have wild dogs come in. I know dogs are very different than coyotes, but has anyone tried sounding like a owl?
I'll know when this takes off when I start seeing crow decoys sold by the dozen in Cabelas
[ January 14, 2004, 02:57 PM: Message edited by: Barndog ]
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Leonard
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posted January 14, 2004 04:16 PM
No, not the same sound, at all. And, I'm like you, most areas I hunt, there aren't any crows, just ravens.
The way I figure what they are, from a distance, if they aren't calling: Crows are usually in groups, but ravens are almost always in pairs, only. Of course, sometimes they have young, but a pair of black birds sitting on a wire at a long distance, they are usually ravens, out here.
I'd be interested in a raven sound. Ravens follow a coyote coming to a call, and announce his impending arrival.
Good hunting. LB
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Swift One
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posted March 12, 2004 08:06 PM
The first Coyote that I ever shot was when I was calling crows. I was using a hand call and imitating an exited crow. Other crows were calling back but none were flying in. I then heard movement behind me and behold, there was a Yote standing no more than 20 yds from my stand. I'm convinced that he thought that he was hearing the crow dinner bell to carrion and thought that he would get an easy meal. I have been hooked on Crow and predator hunting ever since.
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varmit hunter
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posted March 18, 2004 12:49 PM
Just for what it is worth. A Crow decoy set out in front of you're stand works two ways. It gives the Coyotes confidence, And agitates them at the same time. Try it. It's a cheap trick.
Ronnie
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No Feather Flex does not make Crow decoys. So I am not trying to push product.
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Cal Taylor
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posted March 18, 2004 03:41 PM
Varmint Hunter,
Are you on Outlands Pro staff? I was just curious. I guided Ricky Bishop to his first archery mule deer. Cal
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varmit hunter
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posted March 18, 2004 05:02 PM
Yelp Cal. Have been on it 16 years now. We have been bought out by Kolpin. I am now on Kolpin's Gold Staff. I am mainly invoved with Lohman, MAD, And Big River calls. Plus the Feather Flex Decoys.
I like the testing part more than the video work. When we first came out with the Goose decoys. They sent me three dozen to see how they would hold up to the weather. I staked them out, And went back a week later. I called the company, And told them I needed 36 more. They had a fit, And told me those decoys should be as good as new. I told them they might have been if the Coyotes had not tried to eat every single one of them.
Now you would think after the first four or five they would have fiqured out there was not much meat in that foam. Nope, They ate them all. Looked like they had been run over by a lawn mower.
I need to get the company to send me out on a guided hunt with you. We can get that Mule Deer out of the way. Then see some of that fine Dog work.
Ronnie
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Cal Taylor
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posted March 18, 2004 05:39 PM
Yep, That would be great Ronnie. Ricky Joe was here with Real Free. (or at least thats how they like their hunts). But he was great. The hunting was hot and dry and Ricky stayed and hunted hard and got a good deer. That was after Dabid Blantoon had whined his pea heart out and went home.
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