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Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on April 24, 2003, 01:09 PM:
Anybody using turkey calls, or elk calls, in a pinch, for predators?
Good hunting. LB
Posted by Cdog911 (Member # 7) on April 25, 2003, 05:30 AM:
Leonard,
I've had one or two that I managed to trim down in the back enough that I could make good noise with them without gagging my way through every set of squeals. I've only used the turkey diaphragms and have never used the elk ones. An older man that first taught me how to call uses one a lot and is very, very good with it. With all the recent interest in call making, they appeal to me because the voice is in your mouth and uses the structure of your teeth, cheeks and lips for the "body" of the call. How better to recreate the structure of a rabbit's mouth to get that "just right" sound? Joe also keepse it tucked in his cheek so he can just plop down and start calling. With partners, he can squeal like a bunny, then cluck like a hen in code to tell his buddy which direction he sees something, i.e., one cluck is north, two is east, etc.. I applaud and admire any caller that has mastered this technique.
[ April 25, 2003, 05:31 AM: Message edited by: Cdog911 ]
Posted by Krustyklimber (Member # 72) on April 25, 2003, 10:31 AM:
My brother uses a diaphram call, and no they are not all alike...
Different cuts and multiple layers of latex make them sound different, as does the tension set on them.
With practice one can make more sounds then a standard mouth call... my brother can meow, bark, do clucks yelps and purrs, squeel like a pig, howl and whine like a small coyote, and do a few different rabbit/fawn/bearbawls with it as well. And probably a few more I am forgetting.
I can only put them in my mouth and do a gagging sound that lasts about 3 seconds LOL, 'til I spit it out...
All these sounds can be made without any visable movement, and can even be made while you've mounted your gun and are ready to shoot... but volume is the only drawback, they are not very loud, and calling in loud conditions would be tough.
I hope this helps,
Jeff 
Posted by varmit hunter (Member # 37) on April 27, 2003, 06:17 PM:
Been using them for years. Good on Geese also. As Krusty pointed out there are single, Double, And triple reeds with v cuts, Splits you name it.
I mainly use the plain single are double reed. On the coarser ones you can bark how'll, And do one hell of a Ka-Yah. All with no hand movement.
I was the worst gagger in the world. Just put in your mouth and get used to it. It will get pliable in a short time. Then just start working on little squeals. Believe me if I can do it you can.
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