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Krustyklimber
prefers the bunny hugger pronunciation: ky o tee
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Icon 1 posted March 23, 2003 01:04 PM      Profile for Krustyklimber   Email Krustyklimber         Edit/Delete Post 
Hiding inside of a stick...

I used my pocket knife and dremel tool to find this call, inside of a piece of hazelwood I cut from my yard last year...

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The bell tube end...

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A huge "thank you" goes out to Mr Cronk, as I never would have know the basics of call building and reed tuning without his articles and his advise.
I used an endless air channel, opening up into a three step sound chamber.
Also I used a double reed, one is made from and old business card, the other top reed from my spotlight package.

It makes a really good raspy jack sound, as well as a good fawn bleat and bear cub bawl... [Big Grin]

Anyone have any suggestions what to finish it with, oil or varnish?

Also I can't come up with a name for it... I keep listening but it hasn't told me yet. [Wink]

I really enjoyed making this, watch for more "one off" handmade calls to show up.

Jeff  -

P.S. The side view is before I finished the sound bridge... it is secret stuff. lol

[ March 24, 2003, 12:57 PM: Message edited by: Krustyklimber ]

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Rich Higgins
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Icon 1 posted March 23, 2003 02:53 PM            Edit/Delete Post 
Secret stuff? My guess would be the step platform Scott Huber advocated to Rich Cronk as designed by ELK and uilized in their "Yotebuster."
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Krustyklimber
prefers the bunny hugger pronunciation: ky o tee
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Icon 1 posted March 23, 2003 04:01 PM      Profile for Krustyklimber   Email Krustyklimber         Edit/Delete Post 
Thanks Rich! [Big Grin]

What I meant by secret stuff is I had no clue what is was lol but you busted me...

I actually have no idea what the parts really are called! [Wink] And have not seen enough calls to know one from another

I used my Critr Call Standard and my old P.S. Olt D-115 voice as the models for the bridge on mine, but I got a step or two ahead of myself and made the bridge too long.

I noticed some air channels end in a dam, and others go through to the tip (or until the curve of the bridge goes below the depth of the grove). Can anyone tell me why I should go with one, or the other?

And one other thing... is it just the dryness of the wood, or will hazel burn my lips? Because just one day of working with it and playing it and my lips are really getting chapped.

Thanks,

Jeff  -

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Leonard
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Icon 1 posted March 23, 2003 04:17 PM      Profile for Leonard   Author's Homepage   Email Leonard         Edit/Delete Post 
slivers? Actually, you will probably want to seal the wood for smoothness and to prevent all that spit from swelling the wood. Too bad Coyote Thriller is taken? Dang it! so's Songdog!

"Which Hazel?"

Good hunting. LB

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Rich
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Icon 1 posted March 23, 2003 04:18 PM      Profile for Rich   Author's Homepage   Email Rich         Edit/Delete Post 
Krusty,
The bridge or "dam" you mention helps strengthen the reed bridge on calls that are subject to easy breakage. Whether or not you choose to use the "dam" at the end will make little if any difference in sound quality. The "step" up front that Rich Higgins mentions is of no real value either. That little step was likely put there to allow spit to escape, but is more likely to cause leakage of air from under the reed. This "air leak" could ease blowback or "back pressure" also I suppose. Me? I just shucked that idea completely. [Smile] Hazel wood? OH golly Krusty, that stuff will kill ya! Takes a few years for a feller to die though. [Smile] Good looking call you made there pardner.

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Krustyklimber
prefers the bunny hugger pronunciation: ky o tee
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Icon 1 posted March 24, 2003 12:53 PM      Profile for Krustyklimber   Email Krustyklimber         Edit/Delete Post 
Thanks Rich,

You have no idea how much your compliment means to me. [Big Grin]

I am not understanding this "step up"... I pretty much followed the guide you gave us in your article, without the small "flat" space at the front of the sound bridge, the entire air channel is below the grade of the bridge., and other than the reed being so long there is no leakage of air (at the front of the reed).

Can anyone tell me where a city boy can find sheep bands, these rubber bands are really ugly.

Thanks again,

Jeff  -

P.S. I added a pic of the tube end, to show non-turned shape.

[ March 24, 2003, 01:00 PM: Message edited by: Krustyklimber ]

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Rich
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Icon 1 posted March 24, 2003 03:01 PM      Profile for Rich   Author's Homepage   Email Rich         Edit/Delete Post 
Krusty,
The remarks concerning a "step" on top front of the reed bridge was not in reference to your new call. It has to do with a certain design idea that was proposed to me some time ago. Anyway, that is water under the bridge. [Smile] You can buy sheep bands at most any farm supply store. I buy mine at Tractor Supply. Ask for castration bands. If you want to try some mylar reeds, I can send you a couple small samples of .010" and .014" stuff.

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Krustyklimber
prefers the bunny hugger pronunciation: ky o tee
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Icon 1 posted March 24, 2003 04:20 PM      Profile for Krustyklimber   Email Krustyklimber         Edit/Delete Post 
It's funny how the same thread can run in two different directions...

Some of you guys know I have this same thing going on the PM board.

Rich, thanks for the tip on the farm supply store, but I'd have to ride my bicycle for days to get to one... I was kinda fishin' for someone to hook me up with a dozen or so (hint hint [Wink] )... maybe we could barter for some more tape/CD mixing... you will be able to plug your walkman/CD player into your new Loudmouth.

As soon as the clearcoat is dry enough I'll post some scans of it (with bridge curve and air channel)

I sure like the doubled reed, it is really hoarse and raspy, and it doesn't tickle my lips when I do fawn bleats.
The top reed is .015 thick clear plastic cut in the same shape as the bridge, and the sound reed (not the right name I'm sure) is .012 thick, much softer than the top reed, and cut in the shape of a critr call standard's reed.

I have used this same card to make reeds for my other calls as well.

The "dimple" in the top reed is everything though, huh? Without it the reeds stick together, and with it the sound is "oh so sweet"... but I figured that out while re-voicing my Olt duck call.

I am working on four more now, Stretch suggested a wooden "horn howler"... and I have been inspired! [Big Grin] hope to show those soon.

Thanks again,

Jeff  -

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Maineiac
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Icon 1 posted March 25, 2003 02:58 PM      Profile for Maineiac   Email Maineiac         Edit/Delete Post 
Congrats on the call Jeff, that looks like a nice call. It must feel nice to make a call, let us know when you call that coyote in on a call that you made.
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Krustyklimber
prefers the bunny hugger pronunciation: ky o tee
Member # 72

Icon 1 posted March 26, 2003 01:33 AM      Profile for Krustyklimber   Email Krustyklimber         Edit/Delete Post 
Thanks Maineiac,

It does make me proud to play the sing-song on a call I made myself... and trust me you'll hear me whoop it up, all the way at your house when I finally call in, and shoot, a coyote with any call. [Big Grin]

This one does make a beautiful sound, and will be my "go to" call so chances are very good I'll be crying the bunny blues on it when some tone deaf, half starved, one eyed, suicidal coyote finally falls for my crap! LOL

OK here it is all finished, with a borrowed band from my critr call...

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