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Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on July 18, 2025, 01:31 PM:
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Okay, here’s the deal.Certain people in congress, perhaps Liberals? discovered that a bunch of Forts and Camps and Bases all over the south were honorary named for famous Confederate soldiers and generals. Since the Civil war has been over since about 150+ years, somebody needed to pick that scab.
The reasoning behind the names was a delicate situation of the north having a bunch of installation's but the defeated people in the south were sensitive about UNION FORTS all over the place. As a PR move, it was decided to call these forts and camps and bases in honor of Southern officers that the local people knew and admired. So these Rebels had an easier time putting up with the OCCUPATION by what were previously enemy troops when they names the installations after their local hero's. It was a gesture towards the local people, but in fact, the troops were Union soldiers and some of the local people were still defeated and felt somewhat “occupied” by Union forces.
That’s it, in a nutshell. Except suddenly some people in congress decided, fuck that! WE shouldn’t be honoring no stinking REBELS and so passed some kind of law that renamed these forts. The problem is that nobody knew what the hell was going on and since places like FORT BRAGG, and FORT GORDON had been known by these names for almost 200 years, they felt betrayed, and who can blame them? So, the current administration decided to change the names back and the same eastern Liberals are again objecting.
Personally, these Confederates deserve respect in their defeat. They had a good reason when they withdrew from the Union in 1860 or so? They got a raw deal back then and it has never ben adjudicated. I personally think it was ill advised to mess with the names, leave well enough alone. I think the Trump administration is trying to correct a bullshit move by the previous Democrat administration and I have no problem with changing the names back to what they were before, besides, it’s confusing and nobody knows these new names that were thrust upon unwilling people. It’s just an attempt to right a wrong and these people are still pissed about all the Confederate statues that were torn down the last few years, which was totally unnecessary.
That’s my opinion
Good hunting. El Bee
Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on July 18, 2025, 02:11 PM:
I read somewhere (possibly in my copy of The Klingon Warrior's Handbook) that 'There is No benefit in disrespecting a foe who has fallen honorably before you'.
A good example is the way we rebuilt Germany and Japan after WWIII.
After the Civil War they had a country to rebuild and they did it without 'influencers' and in some places where to this day it's still referred to as 'The War Of Northern Aggression'.
These asshats are nothing but a 'solution' marching around looking for a 'problem' to solve when their time would be better spent debating Dry Rub or Basting Sauce bbq.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on July 18, 2025, 07:36 PM:
Yes, that’s a good example, how we rebuilt both Japan and WEST GERMANY!
Now, it so happens that I spent a couple years in West Germany in the very early sixties. There it was hardly more than 15 years after beating the crap out of the NAZI’s and there I was stationed in a modern European country, and within 6 months of arriving, the expression was: The Balloon went up! This was the Berlin Wall.
So, I was on a vacation in Europe in 1989 around Thanksgiving and they had just opened East Berlin, and so I drove my rented Mercedies right through “Check Point Charlie”. And I saw what the Russians had done with their portion of East Germany. Night and Day! The food stores were pitiful and the apartment buildings were just like Soviet Russia, and there was no attempt at clearing away brick/rubble from 1946; and this was 1989.
So, the United States with the Marshall Plan, rebuilt West Germany, and the Russians treated their Germans as conquered people. Therefore, the United States deserves much credit for rebuilding the world, Japan, South Korea, and West Germany. Maybe we don’t get enough credit for what the American Government did to rebuild the defeated populations of those countries.
Getting back to the Confederates, we didn’t treat the south like defeated scum. That’s all I have to say about that. Andersonville was plowed under and those things were kinda forgotten. And now, there is no sense in picking a scab. Let them have their monuments and their hero’s names.
Good hunting. El Bee
Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on July 18, 2025, 07:43 PM:
For the record; ........................
I have a bit of room on my modest property and would love to donate space for a couple of Confarreate Monuments on each side of my driveway.
How friggen' cool would THAT be !!!!!! ![[Cool]](cool.gif)
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on July 18, 2025, 09:58 PM:
I have to agree, that would be very cool. Maybe a couple of negro jockeys greeting guests out by the mail box to complete the theme?
Good hunting. El Bee 🐝
Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on July 19, 2025, 09:21 AM:
eBay is showing three listings for 'retro lawn jockeys' at just under a grand to just over 5 grand. The fur market's gonna have to come waaaaay back before I can afford that.
Just a couple of Generals on horseback would do nicely.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on July 19, 2025, 09:06 PM:
They must be gold plated? I can’t say that I ever had a hankering for a colored jockey lawn ornament. The fad has definitely past.
Good hunting. El Bee
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