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Oh sure, we occassonally post a reference to tying liberals and "queers" to posts and whipping them, but we always preface it with something like "My God"!, so, it's OK.

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20 Gouge, My God!!!! Why don`t you stop by the heartland for a visit sometime? It`ll either kill ya or cure ya!

BTW....you make it sound like we do that sort of thing on a regular basis, truth is we haven`t whipped a queer all week.
 

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Posted by electrodude (Member # 2396) on February 25, 2008, 10:09 AM:
 
Thank you all for the warm and comforting welcome. With the exception of Kokopelli, you seem to be a well educated group, from which I am sure to learn many wonderful and exciting things.
Ah yes Kokopelli, the call of the Toadboy. While most people find his call entrancing and melodic, it stirs my bloodlust to a level not easily reached. Like Rambo (or Hillary), I don my tarp made poncho, gleaming three foot knife in hand, ready to kill anyone and anything that stands in my way...
Shucks, I lost track of why I was here. Oh yeah, that's right: Kokopelli, do you really remember Hubert Humphrey? I believe you just might, your appearance does resemble that of the fairy tale creature Rumplestiltskin. 'Course, he wasn't so "visually impaired", but after a few millenium I can certainly understand where the wrinkles came from. Have a lovely day.
 

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Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on February 25, 2008, 10:23 AM:
 
..and been lurking a while, huh?

20, we will let things settle in, if it needs tweaking, I'm always willing.
 

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Posted by electrodude (Member # 2396) on February 25, 2008, 10:32 AM:
 
Lurking? You mean to say I've been slinking around, hiding myself from the light of day, shying away from any human contact?

Yes, it's all true. That's what you have to do when tracking a creature as wily and disgusting as a Kokopelli.
 

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Posted by 20gauge (Member # 2113) on February 25, 2008, 10:35 AM:
 
That's true Electro. Leonard will work with you to uncover and celebrate your inner child.
 

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Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on February 25, 2008, 10:40 AM:
 
Koko can't help the looks he was born with, and this ain't no beauty contest forum. Hmmm? I don't know? Maybe we could shoehorn a beauty contest in, but I'd probably win so how much fun is that?

Good hunting. LB

edit: I've never understood celibacy?

[ February 25, 2008, 10:42 AM: Message edited by: Leonard ]
 

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Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on February 25, 2008, 10:50 AM:
 
See?


 

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Posted by 20gauge (Member # 2113) on February 25, 2008, 10:52 AM:
 
That is a fine lookin horses ass.
 

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Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on February 25, 2008, 10:58 AM:
 
<sigh> those are hogs, dummy!

edit: oops, I promised, no name calling. sorry

edit: wait a minute, you started it!

[ February 25, 2008, 10:59 AM: Message edited by: Leonard ]
 

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Posted by 20gauge (Member # 2113) on February 25, 2008, 11:02 AM:
 
Sorry, didn't see you over there in the corner. The image was too big for my screen and I had to scroll over. Nice shot of the Superstitions. Tim was right, I think we may be related. Are you descended from royalty too?
 

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Posted by electrodude (Member # 2396) on February 25, 2008, 11:04 AM:
 
The last thing any of us want is for me to discover my inner child. The last time I saw that bastard he was loading shotgun shells with mercury taken from broken thermometers and whistling the theme song to "Sesame Street".
 

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Posted by electrodude (Member # 2396) on February 25, 2008, 11:06 AM:
 
I recognize the background of that picture; isn't that where they filmed "Tremors IX: Kokopelli's Prostate Exam"?
 

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Posted by JoeF (Member # 228) on February 25, 2008, 11:22 AM:
 
No wonder you can't go hunting in the desert no more. Look at all of them shacks and shanties in the background.

I was doing a bit of political research the other day and was somewhat shocked to find that AZ has a larger population that Mo. At least most of ours (the undesirable) are concentrated in two big cities.
 

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Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on February 25, 2008, 12:05 PM:
 
Welcome to Tortilla Flats.
 

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Posted by skoal (Member # 1492) on February 25, 2008, 12:54 PM:
 
Member # 228



"I was doing a bit of political research the other day and was somewhat shocked to find that AZ has a larger population that Mo. At least most of ours (the undesirable) are concentrated in two big cities. "

We Keep ours in the populated areas as well Phoenix for regular undesirables and Tucson for those of the liberal bent along with Tempe its our little San Francisco.

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Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on February 25, 2008, 01:03 PM:
 
Yes, which leave the cultural and intellectual capital, Snottsdale.

Good hunting. LB
 

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Posted by JoeF (Member # 228) on February 25, 2008, 01:27 PM:
 
LB, you still relocating there?

Yarnell or Prescott, that's where it's at. Octave if you like seclusion....
 

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Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on February 25, 2008, 02:39 PM:
 
Ok Electro-Dude; Since ToadBoy's off tonight, I may need you to check the sparkplugs down in the trench.

Yeah, I remember Hubert. Even more, I remember Rich Little's impressions of him. Riot!!......ah, it was funny at the time.
 

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Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on February 25, 2008, 03:21 PM:
 
The whole friggin' state is under consideration! Maybe ****** , now that the safeguards are in place?

Good hunting. LB
 

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Posted by 20gauge (Member # 2113) on February 25, 2008, 03:35 PM:
 
Come on Leonard, you know where you want be. ****** ! If they ain't got it, you don't need it.
 

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Posted by electrodude (Member # 2396) on February 25, 2008, 04:36 PM:
 
Toadboys off tonight? That means you're not! Ouch. Ouch. Ouch. I can't tell you enough how much I appreciate you hooking me up with this site.

Now I can spend my FREE time listening to your meandering and incoherent thoughts.
 

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Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on February 26, 2008, 07:00 AM:
 
Electro-Dude; This is how you spend your FREE time when you used to get paid for reading it on the company dime?? I KNEW all of that voltage would fry your brain cells!!! Ground yourself in water & plug into something 110 to purge your system.
 

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Posted by electrodude (Member # 2396) on February 26, 2008, 09:47 AM:
 
I can't play with power at home, my wife hid all the power tools.
 

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Posted by Tim Behle (Member # 209) on February 26, 2008, 07:10 PM:
 
120v is for pussies. Go barehand an irrigation pump feed and bump your elbow into the side of the cabinet!
 

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Posted by electrodude (Member # 2396) on February 28, 2008, 09:32 AM:
 
I once grounded out a aluminum smelter line at about 260,000 amps (DC).

Given a choice, I'd take the pump.
 

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Posted by 20gauge (Member # 2113) on February 28, 2008, 10:06 AM:
 
I once tied a hamster to a butter knife and stuck it into a wall socket. I didn't hear him complaining about it.
 

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Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on February 28, 2008, 10:32 AM:
 
Are you one of those funny guy's that bangs on a wall while somebody is tieing in a hot circuit?
 

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Posted by 20gauge (Member # 2113) on February 28, 2008, 10:51 AM:
 
Wow, I forgot all about that trick. They used to do that to me when I had my head stuck inside one of our 10,000 watt HF transmitters.
 

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Posted by JoeF (Member # 228) on February 28, 2008, 11:00 AM:
 
That's because it would take two butter knives for the hamster to have anything to complain about. Or one long hamster on a very low-mounted outlet....

LB, I hate to come across as an angry easterner again but I can sure relate to your last post.

I worked on transmitters back in the tube days when things were often measured in the 1000's of volts. I used to have to head out to the production test floor if someone had a difficult problem and was there one day when the new guy in shipping repeated his newfound joy of dropping a pallet and watching all of the techies flinch and jump around.
I ran in to the guy about 20 years later at a retirement dinner for one of our old co-workers and he was getting some big "yuks" out of how close he thought I came to killing him that day long ago. I evidently clouded up enough all those years later that he knew I was serious because he shut up and faded away real quick.

I once took an FCC license prep course held at the facilities of a 100KW broadcast transmitter manufacturer. We were killing time one dayy when all of these guys started rolling up shirt sleeves and pant's legs showing the craters on their carcases where they had some minor contact with stuff they shouldn't have.

I'm not real fond of loud noises around electrical work - especially if it is intentional.
 

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Posted by 20gauge (Member # 2113) on February 28, 2008, 11:06 AM:
 
I'll bet you didn't wear much "bling" back then either.



[ February 28, 2008, 11:14 AM: Message edited by: Leonard ]
 

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Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on February 28, 2008, 11:07 AM:
 
Okay, I get the picture.

You were the guy in high school that the jocks would stuff in a wall locker. Cripes, it's bad enough just being a dork.

Shameful, I can't believe I ever did that stuff?

Good hunting. LB

edit for clarity: NOT loud noises around somebody working on electrical equipment! I meant being cruel to nerds.

edit: oh yeah, the pallet drop, that's a classic!

[ February 28, 2008, 11:11 AM: Message edited by: Leonard ]
 

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Posted by 20gauge (Member # 2113) on February 28, 2008, 11:14 AM:
 
To clarify: When I say "stuck inside" I mean as in to poke or insert, to inquire for techincal purposes...such as locating a problem with a circuit. Occassionaly I would drop my roach clip down inside the panel and things would go all cocky-wobbly, to use a technical term.



[ February 28, 2008, 11:15 AM: Message edited by: Leonard ]
 

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Posted by 20gauge (Member # 2113) on February 28, 2008, 01:33 PM:
 
Hey Joe, help me better understand something...the hamsters on the knife. The knife is in the outlet. I feel the buzz but the hamster doesn't? How so?
 

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Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on February 28, 2008, 02:18 PM:
 
Maybe it's because you are grounded a little better?
edit: if you've picked the right pole.

[ February 28, 2008, 02:19 PM: Message edited by: Leonard ]
 

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Posted by 20gauge (Member # 2113) on February 28, 2008, 02:25 PM:
 
Grounded better? Better than what? It's one circuit...the rat's in parallel with the knife, which is in series with me to ground.
 

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Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on February 28, 2008, 02:31 PM:
 
There is sure to be someone that can 'splain it better than I, maybe draw you a picture?

Apparently(?) some things are just way too basic for the smartest man Vic knows.
 

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Posted by 20gauge (Member # 2113) on February 28, 2008, 02:35 PM:
 
Is the current passing only through the knife because it's a better conductor than hamster meat? You'd think the little bugger would still feel a tingle of some sort.
 

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Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on February 28, 2008, 02:44 PM:
 
I think the Dancing Chicken may have short circuited your muffler bearing back in the day?

edit: or you skipped shop class too often?

[ February 28, 2008, 02:45 PM: Message edited by: Leonard ]
 

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Posted by 20gauge (Member # 2113) on February 28, 2008, 02:49 PM:
 
Careful now...I still have a little PTSD from that, uh, unpleasantness.
 

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Posted by electrodude (Member # 2396) on February 28, 2008, 04:21 PM:
 
Now, was it a hamster or was it a rat? Just curious is all.

I sympathize with JoeF. I have to carry a cellphone for emergency calls in my plant, and even after having it for a few years now, I still jump when I'm working on a panel and it vibrates.

I only had someone bang on a panel once when I was working on it. I guess the visual of a six foot three pissed off gorilla scares the bejeezus out of the rest of 'em.
 

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Posted by 20gauge (Member # 2113) on February 28, 2008, 05:17 PM:
 
"Rat" is industry slang for hamster. When yer in the biz, the terms are interchangeable.
 

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Posted by Tim Behle (Member # 209) on February 29, 2008, 04:17 AM:
 
Mike,

The hamster is at the same potential as the knife. You feel it because you are making contact with two potentials. The ground, and the knife.

I typically work anything under 600v barehanded. But I do so from isolation, by standing on fiberglass or rubber. I'm at the same voltage as the line that I'm working, but I'm kept safe, because that voltage can't leave my body. If you were to walk up and touch me, it would shock both of us ( Don't laugh, it's happened a few times )

But don't put me into the flinching category. That was one of the first things that I was conditioned for as an apprentice. Flinching can only increase the severity of an accident, and is a bad habit for anyone working on energized electrical equipment to have.
 

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Posted by 20gauge (Member # 2113) on February 29, 2008, 06:51 AM:
 
Thank you Tim for that explanation. I wish you had been available back then. I could have used you as a witness at my appeal hearing when I tried to get my job back at the small animal hospital.
 

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Posted by electrodude (Member # 2396) on February 29, 2008, 07:52 AM:
 
Tim, I respect you in the same way as the guy who stands at the end of my block and yells at his petunias. I know what you're saying is true, but damn man, that's living on the edge. My favorite saying is "I do it all the time". Yeah, 'til you do it the LAST time...
 

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Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on February 29, 2008, 08:51 AM:
 
Next week we will solve the riddle, does the refrigerator light really go out when you close the door.
 

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Posted by JD (Member # 768) on February 29, 2008, 09:32 AM:
 
There`s a big difference between take 2 pills 3 times a day and take 2 pills 3 times a week
 

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Posted by electrodude (Member # 2396) on February 29, 2008, 09:40 AM:
 
I'm curious as to your affinity for pharmaceuticals. Do you work as a drug contractor? Are the hours good? Do you use many of the samples?
 

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Posted by skoal (Member # 1492) on February 29, 2008, 10:40 AM:
 
The light does go out or so said my brother when we let him out.
 

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Posted by JD (Member # 768) on February 29, 2008, 11:47 AM:
 
I`m just trying to encourage some of you guys to read the directions on the bottles more thoroughly before you start posting.
 

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Posted by JoeF (Member # 228) on March 03, 2008, 07:43 AM:
 
There is usually more physical harm done by the jerk or flinch - voluntary or involuntary - that occurs when one gets shocked.

As far as not flinching goes that didn't work in the electronics industry in the days when I was working on tube type transmitters. Tantalum capacitors had just been introduced and though wonderful things, had a tremendous failure rate the first time (or shortly thereafter) voltage was applied. The failure consisted of a snap, pop, crack, or bang determined by the size/value of the capacitor followed by a flaming ball that hopefully landed on and danced around on nothing more tender than the concrete floor. A snap, crack, pop, or bang and you sought cover quick from that little dancing pellet of burning metal.
I worked with a guy who was veteran of many a VC rocket attack. He used to joke that I could "get down" faster than anybody he ever knew.

The only thing worse was when some lame-brain installed one of the huge aluminum electrolytics (spell check fails on that one - I think) backwards. Those blow up real good and the outer casing can be a mean piece of shrapnel.
 

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Posted by electrodude (Member # 2396) on March 03, 2008, 10:39 AM:
 
I worked with an old sparky that liked to impress us "young un's" with his magical testing capabilities, such as using his index and middle finger to test 120 VAC circuits for power. One day he apparently picked up a nail in his boot, 'cause when he licked his fingers and brushed the wires, he screamed like a schoolgirl. I never saw him pull that stunt again.

When I went to tech school, our instructor for motor controls decided to impress us with the expoding capacitor trick. We crowded around, unaware of what was to happen. Well, most of us were unaware. One of the student was an older millwright, and he knew what was up. When the teacher wasn't looking, he took some ketchup from one of those little packs and smeared it on his cheek beneath his eye. When the teacher popped the capacitor, the millwright put his hand over his eye and yelped. The instructor freaked out, and we all had a good laugh at his expense (once he was done cussing us all out).

[ March 03, 2008, 10:40 AM: Message edited by: electrodude ]
 

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Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on March 03, 2008, 11:29 AM:
 
Good stunt, and what luck that he had a ketchup packet handy.

Good hunting. LB
 

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