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Topic: Religious Terrorists Want To Kill You
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Frank
CAN START A FIRE WITH A BUCK KNIFE AND A ROCK
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posted January 27, 2003 05:50 PM
We should all read the book ISLAM UNVEILED. It shows, with words extracted from islams adherants, that it is a dangerous religion that teaches the killing of innocents. islam is not a religion we should allow in a free society because it's ultimate goal is the destruction of our free society in favor of their religious based law. It's one of the reasons why we need to maintain the right to bear arms! Below are a few words from someone who has read the book ISLAM UNVEILED! You need to read it too! Get it from http://www.amazon.com
Reviewer: A reader from California......
This is a deeply unsettling little volume, because it offers scant hope that the West can live at peace with Islam unless the religion changes radically, and even less hope that that is possible. Still, the questions Islam Unveiled poses and the answers it provides are hard to dismiss, and given the urgency of the times, necessary to ask.
If Spencer is right, the West faces a primitive, violent, and fiercely chauvinistic religion whose followers, to the extent that they are pious adherents to its teachings, cannot be reasoned with, only resisted. Islam is at its core inimical to democracy and human rights as we in the West understand them. To expect Muslims to drop their belligerence toward the West, which has existed since Islam's founding in the 7th century, is to expect them to jettison core values of their faith - something for which there is no precedent in Islamic history.
The Koran, writes Spencer, is more central to the Islamic faith than the Bible is to Christianity. Muslims believe it was revealed directly from God to the Prophet Muhammad. He will find there many divine instructions to make constant war on the infidel, who is only to be given the choice of conversion, slave-like subjugation (in historian Bat Yeor's word, dhimmitude) - or death. And throughout Islamic history, that's exactly how Muslim societies have behaved toward non-Muslims, who are by the very fact of their unbelief not considered innocents in the eternal, divinely mandated conflict.
Undeniably, Christians have in the past committed many despicable acts in the name of God, but they did so in violation of scriptural teaching, not in fulfillment of it, as in Islam.
This literalism has profound consequences for the way Muslims live. Unlike in Christianity, there is no scriptural mandate for separation of church and state in Islam, making secular democracy an alien and hostile concept. Women have few rights over and against their husbands, who may legally beat them, and men in general.
Enslaving infidels and raping infidel women are justified under Koranic law (and still occur in some Muslim lands).
Spencer does not believe that Islam can be tamed. While Muslims in the West live in peace, prosperity and religious liberty, Christians and other non-Muslims are persecuted, sometimes unto death, throughout the Muslim world today.
Because Islam demands death for heretics, moderate Muslims will always risk their lives by offering more liberal interpretations of their faith.
And most crucially, in his view, Islam cannot be other than a religion of violence. "Of course, most Muslims will never be terrorists. The problem is that ... Islam's violent elements are rooted in its central texts," Spencer writes. His final verdict on Islam is sobering, particularly when one considers the rapidly increasing Islamic presence in Europe.
We need to have a serious public discussion of the issues Spencer raises in this important (but unsatisfyingly brief) book.
I doubt Spencer is wrong - but until we hear from this supposed vast, silent majority of peace-loving Muslims, the answers Spencer gives go a long way to explain the hatred, violence, backwardness, and fanaticism endemic to the Islamic world.
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"Truth is no prostitute, that throws herself away upon those who do not desire her; she is rather so coy a beauty that he who sacrifices everything to her cannot even then be sure of her favor".
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Leonard
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posted January 27, 2003 06:12 PM
I don't know when, but I can see global conflict in the (hopefully distant) future, and it will be faith based.
Good hunting. LB
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Jack Roberts
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posted January 27, 2003 09:12 PM
Islam is allowed to form temporary alliances with non-believers, if it benefits islam. Eventually non-believers must convert or die. The only difference between the "good or bad" sects is the timing for us non-believers to make the choice.
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Merle
Knows what it's all about
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posted January 28, 2003 01:29 PM
I am a wedding photographer. Last Thursday and Friday I photographed my first Muslim wedding. We started the photography session at the Brides home then we went to the Grooms home and on Friday we had a big reception. I felt very uneasy to begin with and I made a point of letting the Bride and the Grooms family know that I was strong in my faith, but they hired me anyway. As a whole everyone was very nice and helpful to my wife and myself. We needed lots of help as I was flying by the seat of my pants, not knowing the language (nothing was done in English)or any of the Muslim wedding procedure. All and all I feel I came away from the event having learned something. This country was founded on Christian values and as a result was made open to all people of all creeds and religions that is what makes America great. I am willing to fight to keep my country free from those that would take our freedoms from us, I only pray that I can keep an open mind and be objective, separating the chaff from the wheat.
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Good Hunting To Ya ! !
Merle
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Leonard
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posted January 28, 2003 02:04 PM
I see we have a new member, the artist formerly known as Merle. See, that wasn't so hard, was it?
![[Smile]](smile.gif) LB
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Merle
Knows what it's all about
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posted January 28, 2003 08:54 PM
Leonard,
Thank you for your help. Gentlemen Leonard spent a lot of time helping this lunk head get reregistered on this new board. I'm like the scarecrow in the Wizard of Oz, "If I only had a brain."
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Good Hunting To Ya ! !
Merle
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