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Posted by Saylor (Member # 24019) on September 17, 2024, 12:51 PM:
In areas that have a lot of hunters going into and using the same simple rabbit squeals, what other strategies or calling variations would you use? In other words, when the predators don’t seem to be interested, what sounds do you change it up to to get a coyote or bobcat to come in looking for a meal?
Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on September 17, 2024, 01:51 PM:
Tim would be the one to ask about that.
I just get out the map and drive to a different area. Life's too short to waste time on finnicky women, coyotes or shooting equipment. ![[Eek!]](eek.gif)
Posted by Saylor (Member # 24019) on September 17, 2024, 02:06 PM:
Thanks for the input Koko. This spot belongs to a close friend who I’ve hunted with and on his land for years, but not coyote hunted on for 4,5 years. It has coyotes as well as the two adjoining properties but those are posted and off limits now, changed owners. I’ve taken coyotes there over the years. I know my buddy has a nephew who was in high school and he started calling and would bring buddies out there too and I’m sure they educated anything around. But I hate to give it up altogether. I don’t think his nephew is even around here anymore, got married and moved away.
Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on September 17, 2024, 06:42 PM:
Well .......... In that case;
Mayhap a kitten in distress sound with a murder of crows raising hell in the background. (2 callers).
I'd give the stand plenty of time and then plan on sitting quietly for a good long time for 'late arrivals'.
Posted by Saylor (Member # 24019) on September 18, 2024, 01:14 AM:
Thanks for the tips Koko!
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on September 18, 2024, 09:23 AM:
Two words: "rodent or vole" squeals when nothing seems to be working.
On the other hand, Victor is down in coyote paradise, who gets by with Lightning Jack, or similar, every day, rain or shine. Maybe it's more stand selection than other considerations?
I can tell you this much. I have never made s stand in the same spot, twice.
Good hunting. El Bee
Posted by Saylor (Member # 24019) on September 18, 2024, 09:29 AM:
Good to know, Leonard. Thanks for the tip.
Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on September 21, 2024, 04:03 PM:
I second the vole mouse and toss out some flickertail as well. It helps if you can see the coyotes if they hang up or walk off. Coyote vocals next in line, need let them know another coyote is in the hood. Female invites or other female howls, young coyote howls, 3-year-old howls ect. If prey don't work then bet on the coyote vocals but better know your stand is good and no chance of a coyote seeing, hearing you walk in. also if you not sure on prey sounds then just open stand with friendly howl before going to prey sounds.
Baby cottontail, adult cottontail and baby jack...... Swallow little pride and get a good E-caller.....
Posted by Saylor (Member # 24019) on September 21, 2024, 05:34 PM:
Thanks for weighing in with your tips, too, Tim. I have a WT caller on my wish list at some point but for now, I’ve had a FP Fusion that I’ve used over the years in terms of an e-caller.
Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on September 22, 2024, 06:51 AM:
Wt or Lucky duck are better choices.
Not sure where you live in MO. but a lot of areas get hunted hard by Hounds men. It doesn't mean they can't be called just have to work little harder at it and convince them they have a new threat on their turf. They get pushed around alot and may hole up in the day or layup far back away from roads in big sections. Also, night calling maybe a better option.
Posted by Saylor (Member # 24019) on September 22, 2024, 08:31 AM:
Not sure when it happened but now you can hunt coyotes at night here in Missouri with artificial light, night vision or thermal imagery from February 1 to March 31. I plan on doing that.
Night hunting used to be illegal altogether.
There’s still a few old timers around here that still run ‘em with dogs, too. I remember a few guys who used to stop by my gpas and ask to hunt.
Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on September 22, 2024, 08:54 AM:
Not just a few hounds men. Pretty much whole state has them scattered about and good following. I have a few pups down that way I sold to some hounds men years back as well as in Iowa. East side of Neb. has a bunch around as well. Nice thing about them is they get rid of the educated stuff for the guys that have difficult time calling them. Not sure you have corn fields where you live or just pastureland, but cornfields good place to call late fall when there is only a few fields left unpicked.
[ September 22, 2024, 08:57 AM: Message edited by: TA17Rem ]
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