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Cdog911
"There are some ideas so absurd only an intellectual could believe them."--George Orwell.
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posted January 08, 2013 07:43 PM
Back in "the day", before fancy e-callers and AR15's, folks around Kansas would get together and push coyotes and jackrabbits as a way of "controlling" them. I don't much see how that worked very well, but apparantly, they enjoyed it as is evidenced by this picture from the early 1920's of an annual New Year's Day Coyote Drive in Rhinehart Township, Dickinson County, Kansas, north and east of me about fifteen miles.
Drivers would encircle an entire section of ground with guys on all sides and at the order to go, all would start walking toward the center of the section, pushing coyotes ahead of them, unaware that they were running into shooters on all sides. They tried to cover as many of the 36 sections in a township as they could in one day.
Seeings as how calling coyotes pretty much got its start in the SW, I have to hand it to those desert rats who were smart enough to call coyote TO them. Whole lot less walking, as I see it.
Looks to have been quite the social event. The article that accomanied this said that many of the guys in suits at the end of the day rushed home to put on their best duds just for the picture and it was pretty much a right of passage for young farm boys to walk behind dad, uncles and older brothers until they were old enough to carry a gun themselves. It also noted that there were always a few guys who went home with buckshot in their legs even though they tried to keep the shooting "low".
Now, can you imagine doing this today? Aside from the animal rights freak out that it would cause, imagine that many guys in what amounts to a circular firing squad armed with semiautomatic rifles. LOL
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Cdog911
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posted January 08, 2013 07:44 PM
Oops. My bad. This pic is from this past October when everyone in town gathered at the depot after hearing that Obumster was coming to town to talk about HOPE. Torches and pitch forks were selling at a premium. LOL
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Leonard
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posted January 08, 2013 08:01 PM
Style hasn't changed much around them parts, has it?
I like the circular firing squad idea, might give it a try.
Good hunting. El Bee
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Cdog911
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posted January 08, 2013 08:12 PM
Nope. Coyotes still look the same.
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btech29
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posted January 08, 2013 08:33 PM
Lance, the Amish still do that today in parts of Kansas. The calling stinks in those areas too by the way.
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Prune Picker
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posted January 08, 2013 08:47 PM
I can only spot one person without a hat on. He is a little above dead center in pic. Always an odd ball in the crowd.
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Lonny
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posted January 08, 2013 08:55 PM
Cool picture, but dang it took a lot of people working together to kill two coyotes in those days.
That reminds me of a rancher I knew who had the license plate "I 1080" He requested it after Compound 1080 was used to poison coyotes in the 1950's. He thought the stuff was a Godsend.
[ January 08, 2013, 08:56 PM: Message edited by: Lonny ]
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TA17Rem
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posted January 08, 2013 09:53 PM
Love the old pic.s..
We had the same drives here back in the day for Red fox and jack-rabbits cept in the drives they tried to push the animals to one end of a section rather than to the center. They used a upside down "V" formation and simular has been done for deer hunting, just smaller groups..
Todays generation would rather sit in a tree stand all day than get out and do a little walking..
We still hunt coyotes this way but have much less people involved, 6-8 members.
Yes alot of walking is envolved compared to calling them, but is'nt walking part of hunting!
I think I put on 2-3 miles today with Copper and one of the main walkers put on almost 8 miles total.. We consider a 3 coyote day a good day depending on what type of conditions we had to deal with and the amount of time spent hunting.. Our best day was 8 coyotes in two groups of 4 dureing mateing season..
Here is a little vid. from today of a coyote going nice and easey and is what we consider already dead.. A walker kicked it up in a area to the right of vid., coyote stopped along fence line at the 1 mile mark (2-mile section) and just waited as it was'nt sure of the threat..
Tracker got a little closer and the coyote broke left heading down center of section along fence line and going north, and not knowing we already had a shooter set up for it when it reached the very end.
[IMG]http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/TA17Rem/th_Deletepartially2 of182013_113112.jpg[/IMG]
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DiYi
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posted January 09, 2013 05:38 AM
Back in the Soil Bank(50s)days in Mn that was a common thing for assorted groups but primarily Sportsmens Clubs.The ones I was in ran just like this one.Surrounded and pushed to the center.Us kids would go like hell,get to the middle of the section,hole up and get the best shooting.Fox and jacks,zero coyotes back then.One would think it was dangerous but really wasn't,the shooting was over way before the sides closed.
In the Spring and Summer the same groups would often do it with cormorants as well.Get on certain passes between lakes,keep em flying and stack em up by the hundreds-then burn them.Imagine trying that now?Makes me chuckle to think of the TV coverage.Now the DNR will wait til they decimate lakes,then 'destroy' a few nests or inject a few eggs or some other politically correct joke.
The way the 'gun scene' is going,it may be us huddled in the middle of a section trying to hang onto our guns.I was sent some 'poll'yesterday saying about 40% of the military would fire on civilians here if ordered to do so.I think it was bogus but the fact it's even being thought of is a bit scary.
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Kokopelli
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posted January 09, 2013 08:03 AM
Don't know if they still do it or not but years ago Mud Flat Idaho used to have a huge rabbit round-up to raise money for school programs. They even sold hats with a "Rabbit Drive Promoter" logo.
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Duckdog
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posted January 09, 2013 04:44 PM
I really like seeing those old pics.
Like Jeff wrote, there are still some Amish communities that do this. From what I'm told, they usually use shotguns and that's why you can't use a shotgun in that contest in Bethany Missouri. Apparently, they wanted to take the possibility of someone buying their coyotes from the Amish out of the equation. Sounded silly to me.
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MClark
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posted January 09, 2013 10:29 PM
IIRC the guy that wrote this was a DJ in Phoenix
Mark
Red Snow In Idaho Lyrics
Brandmeier, Jonathon
Well it's hard to believe it's happening there
Farmers walking 'round with clubs in the air
Saying, "Hey bunny, bunny come out a your hole and I'll crush your skull."
Now the rabbits say,
"Johnny, it's always been the same
We would get up in the morning
Chew on the farmers' grain
Yeah, we never worried
We never felt pain of something sticking in our head
We should'a stayed in bed."
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In Mudd Lake, Idaho?
They're huring little rabbits again
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It makes the farmers' garden grow
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Well the farm boys say,
"Hey this ain't no great time but we got the world's largest receding hare
line.
The rabbits keep backing away
When we chase them every Saturday."
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They can't understand
They want them rabbits to get off their land
They want to, help 'em off
They want to, give 'em aa hand yeah
Across the neck
Oh, what the heck
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You're costing farmers money
You flunked another E.P.T.
Another pregnancy
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the more babies you make
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Attack Jimmy Carter
But stop multiplying
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jasonpredhunter
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posted January 10, 2013 12:37 PM
That's a pretty cool pic. It does seem like an awful lot of work and people just to kill 2 coyotes.
I wonder what the coyote population was like back then as compared to now?
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Leonard
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posted January 10, 2013 01:30 PM
My guess is that hardly any of those people ever saw a coyote back then. Until the last 40 years or so, coyotes were practically unheard of, east of Texas and oklahoma, Wyoming. Those folks probably got the only two coyotes in the county.
Good hunting. El Bee
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TA17Rem
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posted January 10, 2013 09:38 PM
Here is a clip from the local paper taken back in 1987-88..
Red fox were plentifull with coyotes just starting to move in to our area.. most of the equipement used back then is still the same with the only change being the scopes/rifles used.
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Duckdog
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posted January 11, 2013 11:30 AM
There have always been coyotes in Kansas to my knowledge.
But, it ain't exactly east of Texas either.
My grandfather used to trap coyotes with a government "wolfer" back in the forties in the ozarks for what it's worth.
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