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Topic: MFK Game Calls Web-TV Episode 6 (pup distress)
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DesertGhost
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posted November 27, 2012 08:15 PM
Warning: It was brought to my attention that there is some language in this video that some may find offensive. If you are offended by the use of some adult words (limited use), please do not view this video, we dont want to hear you complain about the language. We are grown adults, sometimes this language happens.
http://youtu.be/XvC3zzyM8z8
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Leonard
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posted November 27, 2012 08:43 PM
That link don't work, Amigo.
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KaBloomR
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posted November 27, 2012 09:15 PM
Yes it does, LB. Can't you see all of those rare albino coyotes in a blizzard? ![[Confused]](confused.gif)
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DesertGhost
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posted November 27, 2012 09:20 PM
LINK FIXED!
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KaBloomR
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posted November 27, 2012 09:48 PM
Way cool. Thanks for sharing that. Those ki-yi sounds you guys are making are some of the best I've heard.
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TA17Rem
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posted November 27, 2012 09:54 PM
Cool vid.
You'd be coughing your lungs out calling in my part of the country with those diaphragms.... ![[Wink]](wink.gif)
Edit to add:: You boys do sound pretty good though...
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Kokopelli
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posted November 28, 2012 07:56 AM
Interesting.
Maybe sometime later this morning Kay-Nine (The Wonder Dog) will calm down. She had a pretty good reaction to that video clip. It had her full attention as she patrolled the patio & back yard.
It looks like some body's pumping some pretty serious iron.
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Leonard
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posted November 28, 2012 09:26 AM
Don't be hitting on the new guys, chickenhawk.
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Leonard
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posted November 28, 2012 09:40 AM
PS I have been using diaphragms since before these young men were born, but they can send me a couple to evaluate, since a diaphragm is a diaphragm, basically. However, not many are cool red.
And, TA. Forget about your misunderstanding. Diaphragms are plenty loud, done right.
Good hunting. El Bee
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TA17Rem
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posted November 28, 2012 11:57 AM
I have a few of them as well Leonard that I got as a door prize from the V.H. and a few I bought years ago.. Back in the 70's you could also get them when the Carnies came to town, they were called noise makers then....
Inside a building they do seem to be pretty loud and they do make realistic sounds. A few years back I had the chance to hear someone else use them on stand and this guy(whats his name) also used a peice of horn to give the diaphragm a little more volume..
To me it was'nt any louder than a E.L.K.s power howler.. Either one would be fine if calling in the thick stuff and where there is a coyote behind every tree.. In open country I would say no way unless you just wanted to use them to coax a coyote in, but I can do that by makeing a sound with my lips..
Edit to add: I guess they could be considered as another tool for the job so use them if you gotem...
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Kokopelli
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posted November 28, 2012 12:16 PM
Question;
Do you guys find the pup distress to be a seasonal sound, better in the spring & summer or have you had good luck with it year 'round????
Thanx!!!!
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TA17Rem
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posted November 28, 2012 12:41 PM
Can't really answer that as I don't use or rely on pup distress very often.. Have other sounds that work just as well..
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YuckItUpRed
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posted November 28, 2012 12:46 PM
Thanks for the kind words guys. To clear a few thing up....
Yes, the boss man, Torry, hits the weights pretty hard. He's a big son of a gun.
I use an amp horn for most of my howling but that's it. I know I've called in coyotes from a long ways off just based on the fact that they were panting pretty hard when they showed up. I don't hunt the open country much but have called in coytoes in areas where you can see for miles with an MFK Diaphagm. My buddy Josh hunts up in the open country a lot and has no problem calling them in. This has actually been a highly debated topic and will continue to be regardless of results.
I use pup distress all year long. I never end a stand without at least a little bit of KiYi toward the end in case something is hung up that I can't see.
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YuckItUpRed
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posted November 28, 2012 12:50 PM
One point I make about the volume of MFK diaphragms. 98% of the people who say they aren't loud enough will also tell you to be careful when going over a barbed wire fence because a coyote will hear the wire squeak at half a mile away. Same guys say they'll hear a mouse fart from a 1/2 mile away. I'd ask the coyotes I've called how far away they were when they heard the call but they're either dead or got away.
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Kelly Jackson
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posted November 28, 2012 01:46 PM
Hell - I thought you was post 2 pull on a wire and make sounds like a deer in distress...
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DesertGhost
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posted November 28, 2012 08:26 PM
TA17Rem, I use these calls all over the west anywhere from 1300 ft in the deserts and up to 9000 ft and no problem with them anywhere I use them. As for you saying that they arent loud . . . . well, Id say let Red or myself sit next to you or even across a room and then tell me they aint loud. In Utah, I watched a coyote come from over a mile away, in the WIDE open. About 4-5 seconds after calling, the coyote stood up and started hauling right towards us. plain and simple. volume is the fault of the user, not the calls!
Kokopeli, I use pup distress and howls ALL YEAR! and have great success with them. Its kind of like a doe coming to a fawn distress call in august or sept. They know the sound, and will respond.
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TA17Rem
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posted November 28, 2012 10:14 PM
I guess I should of added more detail.. What I was getting at is the diaphragms are no louder than most handcalls/howlers that are out there today..
Most likey only putting out about 80-90 db. if that...
Not knocking the diaphragms as I'm sure they work but they are'nt anymore special than a good hand call/howler..
Question you need to ask yourself is how many coyotes did'nt it pull in....
Not all coyotes will respond to a pup in distress, if they did that would be the only sound any caller would need.. So now all you have is just a few howls and rabbit screams. Pretty limited would'nt you agree??
Anyway nice product you have and good luck with the sales.....
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JD
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posted November 28, 2012 11:00 PM
Don't you fellas worry about timmy, he gets defensive and opinionated whenever someone uses a caller that doesnt say WT on it..... that and the fact that he's an idiot leaves him with the overwhelming desire to spew pointless nonsense all over threads like this one.
The reason timmy couldn't get his diaphragm to sound as good as yours is because he borrowed it from his girlfriend, the good news is that he has never gotten pregnant.
I think you fellas do a damn fine job on the call, nice video and good music at the end, good job, now I'm gonna go watch your other videos.
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YuckItUpRed
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posted November 28, 2012 11:22 PM
TA, add fawn distress, blue jay distress, all coyote vocals, cat meows, cat distress, fox distress, elk vocals, chicken, monkey and turkey and you've got all the "typical" sounds I can make with an MFK diaphragm. Then there are all those other stupid noises I can make with 'em.
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TA17Rem
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posted November 29, 2012 04:02 AM
WOW! sounds like you got all the bases covered.. Good luck..
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Kokopelli
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posted November 29, 2012 08:18 AM
I envy you guys that can use those things. They can produce a heck of a wide variety of sounds without hand movement. Totally cool. Unfortunately, I have a gag reflex from Hell and there's no way I can use one.
Funny thing, though. A long time ago my blushing child-bride was watching me try out a diaphragm call. I wasn't having much luck. Couldn't get past the gagging, let alone make any proper sounds. Her comment was that she would let me die before she called 911 to tell them that her husband had a diaphragm stuck in his throat.
Haven't tried to use one since.
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TOM64
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posted November 29, 2012 09:18 AM
I went almost a whole winter one year with nothing more than Johnny Stewarts canine pup tape playing on my little JS512 caller and killed a truck load of coyotes.
I've used pup distress year round, it works and too many idiots get hung up on too much volume... Namely timmy.
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Lone Howl
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posted November 29, 2012 09:43 AM
I use pup distress year round here and there.
Also,diaphragms have plenty of volume once you get used to em.
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Leonard
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posted November 29, 2012 10:11 AM
After giving away my cocobolo Rhino call to a friend of Lochi, and after seeing his CD setup, which was totally unworkable; I spent the next ten days using a diaphragm call every night and called in a bunch of jackals. (he had told me it couldn't be done)
A diaphragm is perhaps the most versatile and cheapest call you can buy. And, as loud as you want, and as muted as you want, which is sometimes difficult with an open reed.
I don't know what it is with the gag reflex? I think, instead of trying to swallow it, you need to place it just behind your teeth and keep your tongue pressed against it. If you experience a gag reflex, you have it in the wrong part of your mouth. I can just see koko in the casket, like in The Silence Of The Lambs....WAIT! What's that in his mouth?
Good hunting. El Bee
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Lone Howl
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posted November 29, 2012 11:10 AM
Yes, good point L, you can get low volume just as easily, which comes in handy...a lot.
Mark
ps..whatever happened to Lochi anyways? I remember he came here to hunt in AZ with Higgins, and you went to Africa and all that, but aint heard much of him past few years.
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