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Posted by YuckItUpRed (Member # 4256) on November 20, 2012, 10:44 AM:
This is the final pile from the GTG minus a few foxes that were skinned. All in all it was pretty successful and I got to meet a few new fellow hunters. Only bad part was backing into a cactus while helping set up a tent. I failed to realize it was a cactus and not a catclaw due to lack of light. Haha.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on November 20, 2012, 12:10 PM:
Yes, but the help was appreciated, nonetheless. Cactus awareness is vital, anywhere in AZ. Especially Cholla, "The Jumping Cactus".
I remember feeling sorry for a coyote, one night. He was fringed and ran straight into a buckhorn cholla before collapsing. When I went out and put a light on him, not yet dead, his face was all pinned with dozens of spines and it wasn't pretty. I'm sure he won't soon forget CACTUS AWARENESS.
Good hunting. El Bee
edit: full disclosure: those are my blown up and worthless grays in the foreground.
[ November 20, 2012, 12:13 PM: Message edited by: Leonard ]
Posted by KaBloomR (Member # 4252) on November 20, 2012, 03:49 PM:
What happened to the Gray in the front? It looks like it went trolling for Great Whites... ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
[ November 20, 2012, 03:50 PM: Message edited by: KaBloomR ]
Posted by Prune Picker (Member # 4107) on November 20, 2012, 04:01 PM:
That is a heck of a tally, very impressive! What cal rifles were you using?
Posted by YuckItUpRed (Member # 4256) on November 20, 2012, 04:05 PM:
The two coyotes and the two foxes at the top right of the pic were mine and I killed the coytoes with my .22-250 and the foxes with my 12 gauge shooting 3" 00 Buck. Foxes were four and six yards. One coyote was killed with a Saiga something.something something. Hahaha. Another coyote was with a 12 gauge shooting 3-1/2" #4 buck. As for the rest, I couldn't tell ya.
Posted by Lone Howl (Member # 29) on November 20, 2012, 04:19 PM:
That fox looks like it got split open with a light sabor. Great pile o fur Red!
Mark
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on November 20, 2012, 04:23 PM:
In my defense, I didn't have a shotgun with me. They were all shot with my 22/243 Middlested, 62 gr. Berger. Looks worse than it was. <gulp>
Good hunting. Lima Bravo.
Posted by jimanaz (Member # 3689) on November 20, 2012, 04:39 PM:
quote:
Looks worse than it was.
I bet the foxes would differ with that opinion, lol. Dead is dead. I've yet to kill anything smaller than a coyote with my 250AI and 75 grain pills, but I bet that is a good preview. Not running the speed you are of course, but it sure is ruining the coyotes unlucky enough to run into it.
Posted by Prune Picker (Member # 4107) on November 20, 2012, 05:19 PM:
When i hunted with a 22-250 i used the 53 gr Sierra flat base. It wasn't bad about blowing up a coyote. I bought (by mistake for me) a couple of boxes of the 52 gr Sierra boat tail bullets and things changed, (whent to shit) blow ups, 6" holes etc. So i tried the sierra 63gr smp sierra. I used that bullet for years with great success. But i wasn't collecting fur!
Posted by jimanaz (Member # 3689) on November 20, 2012, 06:26 PM:
Success is a relative term in this subject. Desert coyotes brought $40-$75 in the mid '70s, but are hard to sell at any price these days. Success today to me is measured in dead coyotes regardless of how big the holes are. I built that rifle as a long range shooter with an 8 twist barrel to stabilize the heavy bullets. It does what I intended for it to do AND knocks the piss outta coyotes. Win, win.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on November 20, 2012, 07:28 PM:
Agreed, I just want them dead and that build is strictly a coyote rifle. As it happened, I rode with another guy and left my "shottie" in my truck. I felt at a disadvantage, but made due with what I had. I know it looks ugly, but.
Good hunting. El Bee
edit: and I'm committed to that bullet for the time being.
[ November 20, 2012, 07:29 PM: Message edited by: Leonard ]
Posted by Prune Picker (Member # 4107) on November 20, 2012, 08:02 PM:
I was wondering how many different cal guns were used. Can ya kill one too dead? I don't think so unless you are fur hunting.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on November 20, 2012, 08:33 PM:
Hmm? Well, I know that Paul used a 22-250 on one of those coyotes and pretty much the rest of them were killed with shotgun except one Ar type rifle chambered in a russian cartridge.
Good hunting. LB
Posted by stangguyaz (Member # 4254) on November 20, 2012, 08:59 PM:
Leonard thanks again for teaching me a little of what you know. My rifle that I shot the coyote with using the skills that Leonard and Eric taught me is a Armalite AR10 .308 loaded with 42.5gr imr 4895 pushing 155gr smk s. But since I hunted with Leonard I just call it my machine gun and the names sticking can wait to get out again.
James
Posted by stangguyaz (Member # 4254) on November 20, 2012, 09:12 PM:
Here's a pick of the coyote I shot at the gtg and it also has my machine gun in it to,
[ November 20, 2012, 09:14 PM: Message edited by: stangguyaz ]
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on November 20, 2012, 10:39 PM:
Welcome to The New HuntmastersBBS.com, stangguyaz. Glad to have you on board.
Good hunting. El Bee
Posted by knockemdown (Member # 3588) on November 21, 2012, 07:32 AM:
diggin' the machine gun!
Leonard, I shot a gray fox with my .22-243 Sat night using a 70gr TSX going 3600-ish. I loaded them up for deer hunting, so took what I had in the stock pack for a quick night stand.
Shot was 30yds, base of the neck broadside, and the TSX just pencilled through. That cute little fox is in fine shape in the freezer. I suspect if I had my 75 Amax 'varmint' load @3500 in the pipe, I'd have been collecting up fox shrapnel with a dirt rake...
Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on November 21, 2012, 09:21 AM:
Uh............Stangguyaz.
That coyote you shot is one of the `White Tipped Tail` sub-sub-species of Canis Latrans Mearnsi. I know that they're legal to shoot in Maricopa County and a few other counties but I think that the White Tipped Tail ones are considered endangered in Chochise County (Az.) I could be wrong, but just a heads up, if U.S. Fish & Wildlife knocks on your door........swear that you shot it in down-town McNeil.
This sub-sub-species is so rare that some coyote hunting contests have been known to award extra points for them.
Anyway, congrats on your first coyote. Well done.
Posted by Kelly Jackson (Member # 977) on November 21, 2012, 01:27 PM:
dont let LB shit ya...he really likes machineguns...
stay after them
Kelly
Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on November 21, 2012, 04:01 PM:
Yeah, there was a photo.............
Posted by stangguyaz (Member # 4254) on November 21, 2012, 07:04 PM:
I've heard of this photo but have not seen it
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on November 21, 2012, 11:08 PM:
You won't either, as long as I keep paying the black mail.
Good hunting. Lima Bravo
PS why did I think that machine gun was chambered in some russian cartridge? You showed it to me and it didn't look like a 308?
Posted by 4949shooter (Member # 3530) on November 22, 2012, 03:09 AM:
Photo?
Posted by 3 Toes (Member # 1327) on November 22, 2012, 08:36 AM:
LB, I shoot that 62 grain Berger in my 22x47 Lapua and love it! But as you may or may not know, the bastards quit making it. I have about 500 left.
Posted by CrossJ (Member # 884) on November 22, 2012, 09:25 AM:
Cal, Congrats to you and Cenny on your National win!
[ November 22, 2012, 09:33 AM: Message edited by: CrossJ ]
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on November 22, 2012, 10:52 AM:
Yeah, congratulations, Cal. I thought you had to quit contests? I know I'm on the right track if I'm using what Cal's using!
Good hunting. El Bee
Posted by stangguyaz (Member # 4254) on November 22, 2012, 11:43 AM:
not sure LB but its a .308 and I pretty much just shoot my hand loads its not crazy fast like some off the smaller cartridges but its pretty damn accurate after I started shooting it I liked it so much I use it to hunt everything.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on November 22, 2012, 11:57 AM:
Wait a minute, James! I am sure(?) you showed me a cartridge that was rimmed and had an odd looking tip. Then, ANOTHER Russian cartridge similar to a 222 or 223? No big deal, but was I dreaming? I'm questioning my sanity! Others are already sure.
Good hunting. El Bee
Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on November 22, 2012, 12:58 PM:
If you question your sanity.........isn't that proof that you're sane???? ![[Eek!]](eek.gif)
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on November 22, 2012, 01:54 PM:
Oh? That's how it works? If so, for the longest time, I must have been insane? Some would not be surprised. My wife always thought I was half nuts. But, our boy has some 'splain'n to do.
Good hunting. Lima Bravo
Posted by DesertGhost (Member # 4170) on November 30, 2012, 08:06 AM:
MFK getting it done!
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