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Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on October 21, 2012, 10:59 AM:
I did alot of pre-season scoutting when out after ducks and located as many den tree's or possable den tree's as I could and also checked out some of the other den tree's that produced in the past to see if they were active...
I got all my gear ready Fri. night and loaded up into the truck for Sat.s coon openner for a rifle I had along my Magnum research 22-mag. and a rem. Model 550-1 semi-auto for just incase..
I like to set up in front of the den hole or just off to one side so I brought along my gillie suite for camo cover to blend in..
Caller of choice was my WT and sounds used was anything from Vole mouse to rabbit to bird along with coon vocals and distress sounds..
I started most stands with a prey distress sounds and then switched over to coon vocals or distress to finish off a stand if needed.. I also spent a little more time on most of the stands as I found out from previous hunts that some of the coons just take a little longer to get going.. Once in awhile I would get a peaker that would take a look and then pop back in the hole not giveing me a decent shot so I would tease them with a little vole mouse distress or some sort of bird to get them excited and out of the hole...
Some stands were slow going with one coon comeing out of the hole at a time and then another stand they were fighting to get out of the hole and get to the sound source..
Most were shot comeing down the tree before they hit the ground and just a couple made it to the ground before meeting there maker..
I was useing Win. 22-mag H.P. ammo for the hunt and had some poor results with it so I may give CCI or Rem ammo a try on the next hunt and hopefully one or the other does a better job of killing clean...
The rifle worked well and the speed loaders came in real handy when I had to do a quick reload on some of the multiples or cripples...
Anyway it was a good day and I'm glad I was able to get out and enjoy some of the nice fall weather which I usually miss due to the work load..
I was going to have my son come along on the hunt but he had an appointment with the local Pheasants fore-ever chapter.. They put a hunt on every years for the kids to get them more interested in hunting and a chance to get some shooting in at some birds.. They also have a little work shop they put on and the kids learn to make wood duck houses and are shown how to clean or dress out varis game animals..
Dakota came home with one pheasant and said he missed a shit-load but also said he had a good time hunting with his friends ...
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Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on October 21, 2012, 11:49 AM:
Looks like you got'em all?
Good hunting. LB
Posted by the bearhunter (Member # 3552) on October 21, 2012, 01:23 PM:
10$ a pop. not bad for some fun.
Posted by Cdog911 (Member # 7) on October 21, 2012, 04:32 PM:
Looks to be a purty good day.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on October 21, 2012, 04:51 PM:
Yeah, and a few porkers, too. I thought for sure that Lance would extoll the merits of coon fight sounds?
Good hunting. El Bee
Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on October 21, 2012, 08:23 PM:
Well maybe he has figured out that coon behave much like coyotes. You can get away with calling aggressive with some but not all. Or he is in the process of a big reply and we will just have to wait till he is done..LOL ![[Wink]](wink.gif)
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Posted by knockemdown (Member # 3588) on October 22, 2012, 06:45 AM:
That's pretty cool, Tim! Man, I hope ya saved a couple for that pretty red dog to tree???
Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on October 22, 2012, 07:46 AM:
Plenty of coon around Fred but Copper won't be treeing any of them.. Copper will have her turn come late Nov. when the deer season is over here and I can get after the coyotes..
My area is'nt much different than other places when it comes to deer. The land owners don't want anyone running through there property till after deer season but it so happens I'm related to a few of them and they allow me to call on there properties for coon and coyotes..
Normaly I don't call or hunt/trap many places till after deer season but by that time the coon here are not as active as they are now .. I have one more week-end to get after them and then I have to let the areas cool off so the deer settle back down for the Nov. deer openner...
Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on October 22, 2012, 08:29 AM:
Nice!!!!
Question(s);
Are they prime this early or is the leather still blue??
and
You ever eat 'coon?? As in par-boiled then B-B-Qed??? Not bad at all!!!!
Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on October 22, 2012, 08:54 AM:
Koko our season here starts when a animal (furbearer)starts to become prime. Some of the early ones will show some blue when hide is stretched and dried and some won't. The fur is still good but not at its best so you may get a lower grade with some.. You can take two coon from the same tree and neither one may be the same as far as being prime goes.
Next week-end our season for beaver will open as they prime up a little later than the coon or fox..
Another example is our wolf season which consists of two seasons a early and a late..
The early season is for the dam deer hunters have to keep them happy by letting them get there revenge..LOL The fur on these wolves won't be the greatest but its more about killing than it is harvesting the fur..
The late season is for the trapper and hunter that is after the hide to either sell or have mounted or rugged out as the fur will be at its best....
As for eating coon, nope never tried any and don't plan to.. I leave that for the southerners..LOL
I'm not a vet or doctor so I can't say for sure which one is good enough to eat and which is not so I'm not takeing any chances...
Posted by the bearhunter (Member # 3552) on October 22, 2012, 05:14 PM:
can't believe you ai'nt tried coon Tim.... ai'nt to bad!
have you ever tried eating beaver??
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on October 22, 2012, 05:56 PM:
Okay, okay! That's an acquired taste, don't you think?
I was mildly surprised a couple years ago, when Randy Reeves served some bobcat. I thought it was quite good. I think it was tenderloin or backstrap?
On the other hand, the rattlesnake seemed much too bony, for me? like those very small bones you see in blue gill that will lodge in the back of your throat.
Good hunting. El Bee
Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on October 22, 2012, 07:33 PM:
quote:
can't believe you ai'nt tried coon Tim.... ai'nt to bad!
have you ever tried eating beaver??
Nope! We have grocery stores here that sell beef and pork...
Have'nt had any of the other since Betty lue got out of prison.. ![[Razz]](tongue.gif)
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on October 22, 2012, 11:59 PM:
You don't know how bad I feel, knowing that Betty lue had anything to do with you! That little tramp!
Good hunting. El Bee
Posted by Cdog911 (Member # 7) on October 23, 2012, 05:07 AM:
No long rely here. Success is success. I've used the non-fighting sounds and they come in, but slowly, almost cat-like. About as passive as I go is a duplexed coon chatters/ woodpecker sound that gets their curiosity going. Fact is, with fur prices where they've been on coons, by the time ours are fully primed, distemper has hammered them each of the past four years. Last year, all I found at most of my best den tres were carcasses at the bottom where they landed when they crawled out and died.
Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on October 26, 2012, 06:42 PM:
I got a few more for the stretcher.. Saw nothing on Thur. and got two today.
Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on October 27, 2012, 05:09 PM:
Still out
skinning and grinning.LOL
Got a bonus today along with a big boar coon which weighed in at 38 1/2 pounds.. ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
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Posted by the bearhunter (Member # 3552) on October 27, 2012, 05:54 PM:
W.T.F. is that black obnoxious black box in front??. looks kinda like my safe where i keep all my millions$$.
you may have made 100.00 bucks today Tim, SMILE!!
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on October 27, 2012, 09:35 PM:
I'm pretty sure that's just a tipped over waste basket. Green waste basket.
That seems like a hell of a coon though!
Good hunting. El Bee
Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on October 28, 2012, 07:59 AM:
Hey...............I've got a caller that looks somewhat sort-of like that. A Sony WalkMan, & misc. Radio Shack parts in a project box. Sounds like crap even to my tone deaf ears but the heck of it is that it has called in quite a handfull of critters.
Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on October 28, 2012, 10:53 AM:
Is'nt that little green box something though (WT Mighty Atom for those that don't know)....
I called two counties this mourning and put on a little over 140 miles round trip. Got a few more heavey weights that ran from 30-35 pounds..
I switched ammo in the 22-mag and went to the CCI 40 gr. h.p. and saw an improvement on kills right off the get go then later in the mourning the performance started to drop and some of the coon required a finishing shot.. This bullet maybe openning up to soon as I was getting some big entrance wounds on a few..
The weather was cool with a dirty sky and I think this maybe the best time to be out calling them but don't know for sure yet till I get a few more hunts in..
That green box( WT ) is really doing the job for me so I think I'll hang onto it for a few more years..
Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on November 04, 2012, 02:18 PM:
I have a few more coon to add to this seasons take.. Mostly boars with one sow and a few big ones again..
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on November 04, 2012, 02:40 PM:
Thanks for sharing, Tim. Wish we had more coons than we do? I hardly ever see them.
Good hunting. Lima Brav 0
Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on November 04, 2012, 04:19 PM:
Anytime Leonard..
Yes I wish other places had alot of the little devils as well..
The thing with the coons here is we only have a few hound hunters and some trappers and a large area that they live in.. Pretty adaptable creatures that can live most anywhere and not be bothered to much...
Been finding out that alot of farmers don't want them around, even the farmers that don't like hunters much, as the coon make a mess of there equipement and can contaminate there livestock feed or stored grains.. So I have been getting access to areas that would be normaly off limits..
Another thing to keep in mind is we may have alot of coon and some places have very little but they may have a good number of gray or red fox or coyotes by the thousands of which I would be very satisfied with if we had them....
Posted by the bearhunter (Member # 3552) on November 04, 2012, 05:33 PM:
tim. are you just cold calling or setting up on sign..abandon houses,cornfield,cattails ect..??
and to LB. you got coons alright!!
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on November 04, 2012, 05:40 PM:
I didn't say we don't have them, I said I hardly ever see them. I hardly ever see bear, either. I think the reason is because where I hunt, we don't have a lot of trees or water. I can count on one hand the number of coons I have called in, over the years.
Good hunting. El Bee
Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on November 04, 2012, 07:45 PM:
LOL. Bear...
Too bad Leonard don't have a season for them. Wonder what they would cut off to show proof for a contest hunt?????
I don't do too much cold calling. I look for trails in the ditches,farm groves or abandon groves as well as along creeks or one river that I have close by.. After awhile you can pic. out most of the den tree's pretty easey.
Oh! And to clear up a misconception from what I read over at F-P webb site about calling coons or where to look...
Some member there claimed that coon make there dens in only dead tree's which is false, atleast in my area..
You will find den holes or hollow tree's that are still alive and growing which can be cottonwood, Oak, boxelder, and ash to name just a few.
Here is a pic. of a tree with a den, the hole is just underneath where a branch broke off.
Also down along creeks if there are not any tree's big enough to have a den the coon will dig a hole up along the bank and the tree's roots or just dig a hole into a bank..
Not every tree or hole is going to produce a coon everytime but keep calling them anyway as some coon will have more than one den.
Example: I have a place that has an abandon grove on both sides of a north and south road with a drainage ditch just to the south of both groves. A coon or coons in this area depending on how much sign well have a den in both groves and a hole or culvert down by the drainage ditch..
Once the coon is fatten up it will move away from the ditch and into one or both of the groves and spend most of the colder month's there..
As most good trapppers will tell you, you hit the creeks first for coon then move your traps to the wood lots later into the season. Same canbe said for calling.
If you have big enough tree's for dens along the small creeks then the coon will be there pretty much through the season till mateing starts. I find these coon to be a little easier to call.. Just like calling coyotes or fox its a numbers game and the more places you have to call will increase your percentages and it don't hurt to go back and call areas you have called before that you had kills on..
I have a few good spots that have produced three Sat.s in a row and I took anywhere from 2-4 coon each time..
Also if you find a den and call a coon in do some looking around as there maybe other dens close by in tree's or on the ground as the families tend to stick together.
Also if you have a good spot and call in and kill a few YOY coon you better come back and hit it again as mom and pop are still around..
The boar coon willbe a little farther away from the kids and from what I have seen so far they tend to hang about 2oo-300 yds away and the sow is less than a 100 yds. from where I have taken the YOY..( if there are enough tree's around for a den)
Enough for now...
Posted by the bearhunter (Member # 3552) on November 06, 2012, 12:47 PM:
good answer Tim. might give it a try.
LB. racoon: Procyon Lotor
coon: Negris Concolor.
is that easier to figger??
Posted by jimanaz (Member # 3689) on November 06, 2012, 08:51 PM:
Dear Tim,
Who gives a fuck about goddamn raccoons?
Sorry eveyone else, just wanted to share some timentality with the creator.
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Posted by TRnCO (Member # 690) on November 07, 2012, 11:52 AM:
when coons are the only thing that your beloved Ecaller will call,.......it's what ya call Jim..
Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on November 07, 2012, 05:45 PM:
It works just as good on these also..
Jimmy,Jimmy, Jimmy! Your not a very nice person and done gone hurt my feelings...
Whats the matter?? You don't have any new guys on Higgy's board to talk to? Or is it your not getting any or I know I know your F-P stopped working...
No Leonard I'm not in the habit of pissing off the other members here, as most were pissed off before they logged on here...
P.S. Anyway Jimmy we are here to help all you have to do is just ask, hell you can cry on my shoulder anytime... Hope you feel better tomorrow and you get the caller fixed or what ever is eating at you... God bless.
TRnCO right now is one of the best times to be after coon here before the big freeze hits, that and I have a little time on my hands till the snows hit and I can get after the coyotes and fox then when the fur is prime... Makeing decent money on the hides plus there are plenty around.. I'm happy...
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Posted by UTcaller (Member # 8) on November 07, 2012, 06:07 PM:
Hell we got a shit load of coons around here,they are fun to call and kill in the off season we kill lots of them. Especially fun with my 17 ackley hornet but I never thought about taking hero pictures of the god forsaking things.To each his own I guess. ![[Roll Eyes]](rolleyes.gif)
Good Hunting Chad
Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on November 07, 2012, 06:22 PM:
Not hero pictures Chad. "reminiscent" to honor them. Just like when someone dies and a photo is place by the casket...
Posted by UTcaller (Member # 8) on November 07, 2012, 06:41 PM:
WTF?!?!?!
Posted by JD (Member # 768) on November 07, 2012, 08:34 PM:
tim, you are one strange little monkey.....
I piled so many coons on top of an s10 blazer one night that it caved the roof in about 8 inches.....I believe it takes around 25 coons to push the top down like that, can't remember for sure, may have only been 21..... whatever....Obama is president and tim is still a fruitcake.... life goes on.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on November 07, 2012, 09:02 PM:
Damn, I hate to stick up for Tim, but. Let's be careful about becoming a little too elitist. So what, if he hunts coons?
Good hunting. LB
Posted by UTcaller (Member # 8) on November 07, 2012, 09:08 PM:
Sounds like he votes for them too.
Good Hunting Chad
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on November 07, 2012, 09:17 PM:
I don't care who you are, that's funny!
Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on November 07, 2012, 09:54 PM:
No Chad i did'nt so you can't blaim me for your downfall so to speak..
Just so you know I was working the day of election..
Posted by Prune Picker (Member # 4107) on November 08, 2012, 07:07 PM:
Tim the other day you mentioned changing ammo (22mag). I hunt with a CZ 452 22mag around my house, I mostly use the old Federal Premium 30 gr. Sierra HP. It is very violent on fur and hell on smaller, less than 30 lb varmits. A while back i ruined a bobcats day by basically splitting it wide open with a chest shot.
So i changed ammo to Win 22 mag FMJ flat point, (X22M). If you arent happy with the CCI's you might try them. They do mushoom pretty well and aren't too violent on fur.
Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on November 08, 2012, 08:45 PM:
Thanks for the advice P-P. I switched to some Rem 40 gr. h.p. and used them on the last batch of coon and I had fewer runners after doing so..
I looked at the Win. ammo I had and noticed the h.p. appears to be punched in and very shallow and the cci and rem. seem to be the same which was nice and deep. Any way I'm going to try the Rem. one more time and if I start to get more cripples then I'll give the solids a try..
And for anyone interested here is another den...
Posted by Prune Picker (Member # 4107) on November 08, 2012, 09:42 PM:
Just a few mins ago i shot a med size skunk going away from me. At about 40 yds the 30 gr Fed Prem split that stinking bastard from the base of the tail to about the shoulders. I don't think a chainsaw could have done more damage.
Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on November 11, 2012, 12:14 PM:
No luck with the coon today. I did have one come out for a look and then went back in the hole..
I had another Vixen come in on a stand so no complaints..
Posted by jasonpredhunter (Member # 3843) on November 30, 2012, 07:56 PM:
can't believe you ai'nt tried coon Tim.... ai'nt to bad!
have you ever tried eating beaver??
Beaver is good stuff...I used to try and eat it every friday and saturday night back in the day! I always thought it taste better if it wasn't "prime". Actually, no hair was the best eatin'! LOL!
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on December 01, 2012, 12:56 AM:
How funny. You are a real comedian, Jason.
Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on December 01, 2012, 10:05 PM:
I was going to hang up coon calling for now and get started on some coyote trapping and calling but the weather has been so dam nice here I really hate to pass up a good time to be out after the coon. So I decided to go after them again this mourning and hit a few new spots and some old spots that produced in the past..
I managed to get five coon and lost two cripples that escaped back into a hole in a creek bank.. The temp.s have been in the mid 30's to mid. 40's with a low humidity which is crazey for this time of year here in MN.
I took the five coon I got today out to a local fur buyer and had them added to my grade sheet and noticed I had turned in 8 jumbo's so far and have 6 more in the freezer at home I plan to take up north to another fur buyer I normaly deal with...
Prices have been running anywhere from 5.00 up to 12.00 for coon in the carcass and little more if I skin them.. I know I can get a better price up north but I don't have much room for keeping hides till I have time to make a trip up there so I guess I canbe happy with what I got so far..
Might be looking for another rifle in a few weeks or maybe a bigger freezer.. ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
one jumbo, a large and a few reg.
Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on December 05, 2012, 12:58 PM:
I got a few more jumbo's and should have enough to start production on the AR shooters hats..LOL
Posted by Prune Picker (Member # 4107) on December 05, 2012, 03:40 PM:
Tim i wear a size 7 1/2 hat. Another nice day of hunting!
It looks like our warm midwest weather is about to change next week. A northerner heading our way monday. With deer seasons about done the varmits around here need to watch out.
Posted by the bearhunter (Member # 3552) on December 05, 2012, 05:38 PM:
Tim, if thats all your getting for carcass coon "you's getting fucked"
Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on December 05, 2012, 07:13 PM:
Sure Bear I'm takeing a small cut on the hides but I'm not haveing to haul them up north every week either. The most I heard anyone paying out was 20.00 on the jumbo's and I have some of them in the freezer thats full...
So how is the wolf hunt comeing along????
I heard a monster of a wolf was taken in Wyoming this year with a WT atom caller...
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Posted by jasonpredhunter (Member # 3843) on December 07, 2012, 01:22 PM:
Nice tail-gate of coons. Those suckers sure are fun to call! Been shooting a few big boars myself. Sounds about right on the price for around here. You might get $18 for the biggest of coons, but these VA coons ain't worth much. Still fun to shoot though and they pay for your gas money.
Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on December 07, 2012, 01:48 PM:
Thanks Jason.. We have some good numbers this year so it does make it that much more fun to do..
What do your coon run for as far as weight goes???
Posted by jasonpredhunter (Member # 3843) on December 10, 2012, 01:45 PM:
Tim, BIG coons down here usually weigh in the 20-23 lb. range. I'd say a good average coon is mid-upper teens. I actually called a big boar in last week that was probably the biggest I've ever seen. Weighed him and he was 27.2 lbs but I've never seen one even close to that big before here. Our numbers are pretty good here this year it seems, I've heard a lot of guys in the midwest with low numbers. I'm sure the drought has had some sort of impact on them.
Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on December 10, 2012, 05:25 PM:
Well we got some snow here and cold temp.s so I'm done for now with the coon and ended up with 50 coon with 20 some of them being jumbo's which ranged in weight from 32-38.5 pounds..
I finally settled on what ammo I will use in the 22-mag from now on which will be Rem. 40 gr. h.p.....
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