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the bearhunter
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posted April 07, 2012 09:22 AM
sent off the last batch of coyotes to NAFA last night. was actually a bit sad clearing out the fur shed and loading them in the truck. . i'm hoping the market stays good so about mid-june there will be a check in the mail that will make me go ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
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ursus21
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posted April 07, 2012 09:45 AM
Cool photo. Just one question though. Why did you build your shed up off the ground so far?
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J_hun
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posted April 07, 2012 03:35 PM
Bucks, nice picture, I really like the looks of the third one up the stairs. Over a hundred dollar coyote , I'm guessing. You have some very nice coyotes. Good job.
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the bearhunter
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posted April 07, 2012 03:49 PM
thanks.
Ursus, there is a river bout 100 yards away that tends to get nasty at times. flood waters have been to about 1 foot up the stilts 4 times in the last 10 years. also, good spot for the log splitter,3 wheeler,snowmobile.
Jerry. if things stay the same as last auction, i'm quessing there are 10-12 that will go over 100.00
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DiYi
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posted April 07, 2012 04:46 PM
I think all mine are $100s. ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
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the bearhunter
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posted April 08, 2012 04:46 AM
DiYi. when you QUIT shooting them damn plastic tipped prairedog bullets at 4000+ you (might) have a chance ![[Mad]](mad.gif)
this AI'NT no 100.00 coyote
this is
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DiYi
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posted April 08, 2012 04:58 AM
You've got to quit hitting em on the shoulder like that. ![[Razz]](tongue.gif)
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Kokopelli
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posted April 08, 2012 08:08 AM
For what it's worth;
Damage like that is repairable. It may take more than one needle coming in from a couple of different directions, but the rips will come back together. Takes a bit of practice but it is not that big of a deal once you get the feel for it. The question is; Is it worth the trouble?? If a badly damaged $100 coyote can be salvaged to bring $75...........that's a pretty decent return on 15 or 20 minutes of sewing. Our southern Az. coyotes are worth considerably less. I personally sew & wash them anyway, if for no other reason than it's good practice for a damaged bobcat that may bring serious coin with a bit of tender loving care.
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TA17Rem
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posted April 08, 2012 11:22 AM
Koko your right some hides that get ripped canbe repaired with a little sewing and time and a good price can still be had..
The problem with Dave's coyote in the pic. is part of the hide is gone (very large part), that happens when you use plastic tip bullets and they splash on the suface.. Not much you can do with them after that happens, you try sewing them up and end up with to many wrinkles in the stretched hide.
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Leonard
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posted April 08, 2012 02:36 PM
Oh boy! surface splash on a shoulder, that's kind of a rookie mistake, but we don't have any rookies on HM, so what's the story?
Good hunting. LB
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the bearhunter
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posted April 08, 2012 03:29 PM
LB. thats one of DiYi's coyotes shot with a freeking 220 swift improved with a freeking 50 BT. he's one hell of a shot,just needs to place his grenades a bit (alot) more carefull.
trying to get him to tone things down but he's a stubborn old bastard. heres a typical morning phone call:.
yeah Dave, just shot one. i don't "think" he's to bad:
when i hear the "too bad" part i cringe.kinda like hearing someone say Rosie O ai'nt "too" bad looking ![[Eek!]](eek.gif)
plus he brings some wierd clothes on trips but thats another story!!!!!!.
here's a pic of last winters MT trip. he shot the best of the best and they were ALL nice. same fricken thing,point of the shoulder.my fur buyer bout cried when he seen some of these beauties. some shot with "the cannon" were unsewable.
EVERY plastic-tipped bullet maker should put on the box in bold letter: Warning, NOT FOR FUR HARVESTING"
Koko, whats coyotes bringing down your way??.
Happy Easter everyone.
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DiYi
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posted April 08, 2012 04:02 PM
I'm thinking I'll plead nolo contendere(you better look that up Bearhunter)to the general allegations made but will plead not guilty to 'surface splash' on that one he's holding or any others for that matter.As he knows but refuses to concede,that hole is an exit hole!!!Only happened cause I let him go to my BEST spot while I went across the road into heavier cover resulting in the lil female coming to 30 yds or so and then standing there alternating glances at me,then my caller,til I simply lost control and ended the stand off.Never have had a 'surface splash' with BTs-bad exits but not surface splash.
To make him really happy,i may move back up to 4300 fps with my Improved and 50 BTs.
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Kokopelli
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posted April 08, 2012 04:26 PM
I shipped to Groenwold and considering what I sent, I was satisfied with the offer. Had a low of $10 & a high of $35. Most were in the $20 - $25 range. Since I was expecting about a $5 average with a high of $10, I'm somewhat shamed to admit that I didn't put a lot of effort into putting the fur up this year and some of what I shipped was stuff from last year that hung out in the Man-Cave all summer as decoration. Needless to say, I was pleasantly surprised with the offer & had the check with-in a couple of days. I've dealt with these folks for years, and while I haven't always been happy with what I got, given the ups & downs of the fur market, I believe that they've always treated me fairly.
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Leonard
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posted April 08, 2012 05:47 PM
DY, please do us a favor and lose the 50 grain bullets! Those aren't coyote bullets, no matter what the clerk at Walmart told you.
Okay, I'm not saying anything more, this is between you and your partner, who appears to have the patience and virtue of a Saint. Peace be unto you both.
Good hunting. El Bee
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DiYi
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posted April 09, 2012 03:18 PM
L,
Your site so I won't respond as I initially wanted to but I'm curious about your comment on 50 gr bullets.Are you against 50s or just BTs?
As to Bearhunter,maybe a lil patience but not much.As to 'virtue',none.
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Leonard
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posted April 09, 2012 04:06 PM
I believe there is a difference between 50 grain prairie dog bullets and 55 grain bullets suitable for coyotes. Nothing more than that, and have seen no evidence that my opinion is incorrect.
I don't know if you guys are joking around or what, but surface splashes are in a different category than exit wounds? If you truly are seeing surface splash on shoulder hits, to me, that indicates two things, incorrect bullet and poor point of aim.
So, yes, I pay the bills here, but it doesn't mean I can't be wrong about something and if I am I'm willing to listen. I didn't mean to piss you off and if I did, you have my apology.
Good hunting LB
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DiYi
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posted April 09, 2012 04:21 PM
No sweat Leonard,I was hoping thats what you were saying-not that 50 grs aren't adequate.Heck Bearhunter is shooting 30 grainers.
IMO the BTs are better than VMax and BlitzKings but I agree are not fur friendly at times.As to killing,well I've never had a single surface splash and they kill em right now out of my 220 Improved.Have used them for years but have started switching over to other bullets(55 gr Sierra soft points etc)now that fur prices are up.
I did talk to my clerk contact at Walmart though and picked up a couple choke tubes to try with 4 buck and Heavy shot for you.Been so windy here for over a week just don't want to waste the ammo but will try them soon and let you know.Guess Bearhunter and I are gonna carry a shotgun a bit next season so am gearing up for that.I've played around with this stuff a few times over the years and think 4 buck is the answer but will get serious and really test it out.
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Leonard
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posted April 09, 2012 05:44 PM
I don't know, myself? I might be right back where I started because I have always depended on 3" #4 buck but lately, with the Dead coyote and other 3½" shells, I think they are knocking my fillings loose and this candy ass don't like the purple shoulder stuff. The difference between 54 pellets and 41 sure hurt but maybe I won't notice on game? The 3½" Dead Coyote and #4Buck both kick like a friggin' mule.
Carrying a shotgun on stand is something I always did on contests, but for recreational coyote hunting, I don't usually carry both. If I'm wading into brush, I will grab a shottie, but I feel kind of nekkid without a rifle.
Good hunting. LB
PS I was thinking of .224" bore, in my preference for 55 over 50 gr. bullets.
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the bearhunter
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posted April 09, 2012 06:12 PM
i sure hope them 55 sierra's work out well in the "cannon". they are a superb bullet out of my 250's.
as for the shotgun thing. i'm new to it on coyotes but dabbled a bit this year and was quite suprised to see with patience and thick cover that a coyote would come in close enough.
i'me used to WIDE open country where a standing 2-300 yard shot gets one sent!!.
i also used to care less if i blew a 15$ coyote into pieces. this is the first year putting up fur and now that i'm getting used to it and better, i actually enjoy it.
used to question why my fur buyer would dock me big $ if he seen a hole from a bullet??. after doing it myself, i now know why. a 50 cent piece sized hole on the carcass turnes into a hole double(triple) that size when off the carcass. some holes took 1/2 hour to sew up. if that buyer bought a coyote for 15$ and had to spend that much time sewing one up??
i don't hunt for the $$ ,never have. however, it sure is sweet killing a few dandies and knowing the gas is paid for
as for a huntin partner, DY's the best i ever had ![[Cool]](cool.gif) . now if he just would'nt snore
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Leonard
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posted April 10, 2012 08:41 AM
Snore? I once spend the most terrifying experience of my life between Rick Sr and Rick Jr. in the back of my truck, on the rez. World class snorers both of them. At daylight, I crawled out and had killed two coyotes before they woke up, although Sr heard one shot. And, I spent time in the Army, in barracks etc. but I never heard such a racket! I thought I could sleep through anything?
Good hunting. LB
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posted April 10, 2012 11:19 AM
Sure glad I don't snore.
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Leonard
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posted April 10, 2012 01:05 PM
Thank you! I forgot about you in that little red tent. (how could I forget THAT?)
Good hunting. LB
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the bearhunter
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posted April 10, 2012 04:56 PM
Koko. i've never have done business with Groney. i do know several that have. seems to be 50/50 on those happy,those not.
if i recall, you can ship your hide to him and if your not happy with the $, he'll pay for shipping them back to you??
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Kokopelli
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posted April 10, 2012 08:43 PM
That's the way way I read the ads in the Trapper; he'll send them back on his dime if you're not happy with the offer. I guess I'm in the 50% who are happy with them, & keep in mind, there are those who wouldn't be happy with the offer no matter what it was.
Fur is a commodity. There is money to be made by the buyers, and serious money that can be lost. Their overhead for storage alone must be high, along with all of the other costs & risks.
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posted April 11, 2012 07:26 PM
Just in case you had any hope for me, I think I found the reason I had so much trouble with the 50 NBT's in my 22-250 last year. I pulled bullets with a kinetic puller to change powder. I believe the plastic tips had been shoved into the jacket a tad and they opened up too quickly.
Run out of the pulled lot and haven't had any problems with new bullets. Mostly quarter sized exits on a cat and a few coyotes. Running them at 3800 fps. Good news is my 223 bolt gun likes the 55's better.
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