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ursus21
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posted December 21, 2011 10:13 AM
Since this site has probably more hard core coyote callers than most predator hunting sites I want to pose this question. How strong does the wind have to be blowing before you'll hang it up and not try a call? I know what my limitation is, just curious what the rest of you consider "too windy"?
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Chris S
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posted December 21, 2011 10:27 AM
A thirty mile per hour wind has different characteristics depending on where you are. It's all relative.
If you're in the flat land it's gonna be totally different than if you are in hilly terrain or in a woodland area. There will not be and cannot be a consensus on that question.
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Leonard
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posted December 21, 2011 10:56 AM
35mph is starting to get discouraging. 25 is difficult.
The question is: what are the tactics when you have no choice but to work with what you got.
You have to hope that they can hear you downwind. You have to hope that your scent has been dissipated to a point where it is disregarded. You should expect that your sound is reaching out there and therefore, it will take some time for them to get within range.
You can also do things like pointing you speaker upwind, knowing it will be dragged downwind.
You can also just drive with sound when the wind is blowing nonstop. If all you want to do is kill coyotes, you can stop; and remember to hold into the wind.
Then, as suggested, you can make your stands in the lee of the wind as much as possible. Sometimes, this is not as hard as you might think because the coyotes are hunkered down in the lee of the hills, as well.
It's hard. I seriously feel for Wyoming hunters that deal with wind every day, under conditions I would probably be napping.
gh....lb
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ursus21
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posted December 21, 2011 11:20 AM
I know the terrain and set up are part of the game. However I religiously check the weather forecast, especially for wind. I know that for me, there is definitely a point where I don't even plan to go out if the wind reaches that level. So let me re-word this. In the area you hunt the most, when do you hang it up because of the wind?
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Leonard
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posted December 21, 2011 11:32 AM
It depends on how desperate you are. A contest, 600 miles from home, you hunt in a gale.
If it is just recreational calling, this pussy prefers to wait it out, gusting between 25 and 35.
gh....lb
edit: Ten years ago, my answer would have been; gusting between 35 and 50. You are a young guy/that's my final answer.
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Chris S
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posted December 21, 2011 12:21 PM
At 30-35 mph the old dead trees start to tip over in the places I hunt. So, if I hear or see trees tipping over, I call it quits. Also, it depends on the temperature. A 15-20 mph wind when it's 10° or lower will make me stay home, it's just uncomfortable.
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R.Shaw
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posted December 21, 2011 12:32 PM
If the wind blows my hat off the first day after a shaved head I disregard that because my head is too slick. However, if it occurs a day or two after shaving it is too windy for me.
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Kelly Jackson
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posted December 21, 2011 01:20 PM
If it is just recreational calling, this pussy prefers to wait it out, gusting between 25 and 35.
me 2.
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Jay Nistetter
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posted December 21, 2011 01:29 PM
35 for me too unless there are some hills nearby to get on the leaward side.
The Texas panhandle is ALWAYS blowing it seems and the critters are used to the wind so I try to crank up the volume and make stands closer together.
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Leonard
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posted December 21, 2011 01:49 PM
quote:
a day or two after shaving it is too windy for me.
What stubble? I only noticed stubble on the back half of your head.
Lately, Buttercup, it might be better to tie a ribbon over your bonnet and under your chin, whenever you go hunting. ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
gh....lb
(just kidding, you da bomb!)
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JD
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posted December 21, 2011 03:09 PM
First liar doesn't stand a chance........around here we don't even go out until the wind hits 70mph....if it drops too low all the coyotes will fall over anyways.......pussies!!
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jimanaz
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posted December 21, 2011 10:33 PM
I'm a real pussy. If 20mph is forecast, I cancel. If I'm already out and get surprised, I'm there, why not?
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JD
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posted December 21, 2011 11:46 PM
Me too Jim, I just wanted to sound as cool as these guys with there 50mph stories.
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TA17Rem
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posted December 22, 2011 12:19 AM
Like most I prefer no wind but will hunt in 20-25 mph when I don't have a choice..
We normaly get a N-W wind so i call the east to west drainages and set up on north side or south depending on the direction I'm calling. I will also call down wind if I have some sort of structure to bring the coyotes along and set up just a little ways back from a point so they have to come around it before they get a chance to pick up my scent..
Same set up can be used if a caller is calling along a creek, just stay back aways from where it curves.
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Clank
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posted December 22, 2011 05:21 AM
I dont get out to call much. So wind or no wind i go.
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Paul Melching
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posted December 22, 2011 06:16 AM
If I am just going out for the day and its going to be +20 mph I will stay home and go another day. If im out away for a multiple day hunt Ill go for it regardless of the wind. Oh I hate the wind! I like a breeze but really hate wind.
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J_hun
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posted December 22, 2011 08:04 AM
Wind chill is more of a factor with me. But if a guy must hunt in those windy conditions it is better to look for river bottoms , or heavy forest areas that can possibly give you a little protection. Where I hunt, that is where I try to go if possible. You can go up a big draw into the wind and call all the side draws. Anymore, I just stay home when the wind is above 20mph. There is a few variables a guy can do when calling with the wind especially with E-callers , but that is just hear say with me. Never have tried it myself.
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TRnCO
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posted December 22, 2011 09:19 AM
a steady 25 mph wind with gusts over that, I'm not going, unless I have to. I'm a whimp too I guess. ![[Roll Eyes]](rolleyes.gif)
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Leonard
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posted December 22, 2011 09:46 AM
Well, now that we have weeded out the hardcore from the wimps, I have a question. Do you pull the covers up over your head, or get up to watch The View? I bet all your guns are cleaned and put away, too! WEE WEE CHU.
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Kelly Jackson
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posted December 22, 2011 01:06 PM
20-25 this morning, set up tight and make short stands.
All these showed in less than the 5 minute mark in the wind this morning. Made it back to the house by 12:30 wind is 'post' to pick up this afternoon.
Yall stay after them
Kelly
Yall stay after them
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Kokopelli
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posted December 22, 2011 03:48 PM
A steady wind is one thing. To a degree, it can be dealt with.
When it's blowing in my face as I walk to my stand, then on the back of my neck about the time I find a place to sit is a bit annoying.
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Leonard
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posted December 22, 2011 05:21 PM
That's true koko. But, there is a bright side, when the wind changes three times during a stand. Under those conditions, the coyote don't bother going downwind, they understand that it might change by the time they get there.
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the bearhunter
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posted December 22, 2011 06:17 PM
great topic Troy!!!.
most of my coyote hunting starts at 200 miles from home and its not uncommon to go 400 so i call with whatever God throws at me. if i lived in good country i would probably not go out at 30mph. just got back from a 2 day trip a bit ago. yesterday, the winds were about 15 and calling was "ok". today the winds were about 25 and i seen squat.
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Possumal
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posted December 22, 2011 09:47 PM
I don't know anybody who really likes a lot of wind, including yours truly. The wind direction has more to do with my decision whether or not to go to a particular farm. If it is blowing in such a way it makes it nearly impossible for the coyotes to get downwind without traveling a long way, I stay away from that farm that day. 20 mph gusts with 15 mph the norm is about my limit in my part of the world.
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Rich
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posted December 23, 2011 09:24 AM
I am recalling a wise Quote from old Gerry Blair. "The worst day out calling is better than the BEST day in front of a boob tube." I also have never forgotten old Murry Burnham telling me that when it is real windy, he heads for the brushy valleys out of the wind and calls bobcats.
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