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Topic: Bumped coyotes?
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Leonard
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posted February 19, 2011 10:55 AM
Anybody have a strategy for dealing with those coyotes that you accidentally flush while walking into a stand?
Do these coyotes leave and keep going, or do they just duck out of sight and you are able to coax them into the clear for a hasty stand? Or, do you just ignore them and keep on walking?
If you try to work him, what sounds do you try? Do you get a peek, or an approach?
How often, (on stand) do you have a coyote jump up right in front of you, that wasn't spooked?
Good hunting. El Bee
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TRnCO
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posted February 19, 2011 11:36 AM
Several factors come into play as to how or if I try to work a "bumped" coyote. Did the coyote only see me, or only smell me, or see and smell me and how far away was the coyote when I bumped it.
If a coyote only sees me and is at a great enough distance that he's not hitting mach 4 trying to put more distance between us, then I will usually try to back out and move to a location that I beleive will give me the upper hand in calling said coyote in.
Usually if I bump a coyote that gets a nose full of human and he plainly sees me, I usually wright him off for another day because I don't have the patience to wait for him to calm down enough to call him in. Just seems like around here if a coyote knows danger is lurking some where in his stomping grounds, they won't come to a call, no matter if you try to change locations by 180 degrees from his location.
I have bumped them while driving into a location and simply drove on to a location that put me into position to call the coyote and have sucess doing that. But it seems like driving by and walking by are two totally different scenarios.
For the most part in this country, coyote density isn't high enough that warrants making a stand after bumping a coyote, or a pair. If ya bump'em, might as well find fresh ears by moving location far enough to find fresh ears.
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Leonard
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posted February 19, 2011 12:02 PM
Okay, but your last paragraph sounds a little contradictory?
But, you are right. Depending on the animal's reaction, that can change what I try to do, if anything? Many times, I just ignore the bumpee, and trust there is a friend of his, near by. It's scary to think of all those you bump, and never see!
What I call, "crossers" while driving, I handle completely different than bumped while sneaking into position, on foot.
Good hunting. LB
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TRnCO
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posted February 19, 2011 05:00 PM
Does sound a bit contridictory, so I should say, Spooked bad I move on, not spooked bad I'll reposition and give it a try.
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Cdog911
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posted February 19, 2011 07:49 PM
In recent years, when this happens, I just quietly back out, go a mile or so over and make a stand or two. Go back to set up on the bump after he/she has about an hour to settle back in and they don't generally recall the earlier incident, it seems. This applies to those that I see and the next second, they're gone. If I see them at hundreds of yards and their lighting it up getting the F outta Dodge, forget 'em. For those that aren't especially panicked, I consider the bump as good as a howl back as far as locating. I know that they're there and they're often mine to lose if I do something stupid, like try to call them right there and then. I've been surprised at how often they'll come traipsing in an hour later.
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Bofire
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posted February 19, 2011 08:17 PM
I think(being a know it all) that most the time the coyote just moves, he does not know what "bumped" him, they will head out then turn at about 100-200 yards to see what "bumped" them.
It depends, I think sometimes they are callable if bumped kinda soft, but if they burn out and go over 200 yards fergit it.
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TOM64
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posted February 19, 2011 10:20 PM
I bumped one last weekend and the coyote started barking at me. I did bark back at her since she was about 500 yards away. I remember reading someone here that said don't give up. Didn't do any good.
I went back today and got her killed but it took different sounds than what I've been using in the area and lots of time.
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Wily E
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posted February 20, 2011 10:13 AM
Once again, lot of variables to consider. How good is the area for other coyotes? What was the reaction (run away at top speed, warning bark, etc)? How much calling do I think has been done in the area? How difficult would it be to slip in from another direction? How far is it to another good stand? How bad do I want to kill the bumped coyote?
No set answers.
Depending on the terrain, if the bumped coyote starts warning barking, it can make it difficult to set up another stand without being detected because a coyote that is warning barking will usually put others on their guard making it easier to detect you in your approach to another stand.
If I don't think there is a good chance of calling another coyote, I usually let the area cool down for a day or two unless the coyote in question is killing livestock.
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Leonard
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posted February 20, 2011 12:27 PM
Okay, let's customize the conditions. It might be a contest, you have already invested ten minutes to this point, the coyote is trotting casually, as happens in most of these situations, and you don't want to waste prime time. Now how are you going to handle him? By continuing to walk to a perfect location? Wherever you decide to set up, will you do the lip squeaks for considerably longer than normal? Will you set up in the last sighted direction, upwind, down wind or what? Strikes me that a howl is not as believable, in this case, since he might have eyeballed you, and it seems unlikely that another coyote would give a howl from the same location. Cover is moderate, you can't see for miles.
Good hunting. LB
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TA17Rem
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posted February 20, 2011 12:38 PM
I just go farther back into my calling area and make a few stands there and then go after the one I bumped on my way out.. If the coyote just trotted off into a drainage then I give it 15-30 minutes and set up from another direction and closer to where I saw it last.. If the coyote ran off like it was on fire then I like to give them about a hour or so to forget.. I guess the main thing is to set up away from the danger area, give the coyote a little time and then start a stand with Vole mouse and work up the sound list that I use.. ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
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the bearhunter
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posted February 20, 2011 02:02 PM
i just try to shoot the bumped bastard as he's making his get away
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Kokopelli
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posted February 20, 2011 03:07 PM
I like that BearHunter guy's idea!!!!!
One more varible to toss out; Is it in an area where the coyote is used to a higher number of people?? Are these people likely to be threatning or non-threatning to the coyote?? Or is it in a more wilderness area where people mean bad news??
One of my new stands that I'm fine tuning is near a Hwy Rest Stop. Bumping a coyote there is no big deal.
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UTcaller
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posted February 20, 2011 07:59 PM
Had an experience with this on our last trip to Nevada a couple weeks ago.I know this time of year made a difference in the outcome.
We had located a couple coyotes at first light with a group howl.The pair was a couple ridges away from us so we setup just over the hill.Called for about 15 minutes with no takers.
So we decides to try to get closer to them so we walked about 200 yards to the next hill and as soon as I came around the hill I look up at the top of the ridge and I see a big coyote standing there looking at me.BUSTED! LOL He was about 500 yards away standing on a rock,so we just sat down and I started lip squeeking and he just sat down and watched.I knew there was another coyote in the draw below him so I turned on the coyote pup distress,the coyote on the ridge just watched us,but about a minute into the coyote pup distress here comes a smaller coyote flying over the hill toward us, and as soon as the coyote on the ridge saw the one coming he jumped off the rock and headed toward us coming consistantly but cautiously.
The smaller one stopped at about 150 yards and I shot her,then the other(i'm guessing the Male)kicked in the after burners and we ended up missing him.
But I was surprised that he ended up coming in,I think he just didn't want to leave the bitch.
BTW she was definitely in Heat.
Good Hunting Chad
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Leonard
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posted February 21, 2011 12:18 AM
Chad, that sounds like a very unusual event, the whole deal. I have had coyotes watch me, but usually in very remote areas. Seldom will they approach. Come to think of it, never is a better word. And, I have had many coyotes approach a stand and been called off by another animal that either seen me or was downwind. But, your combo is one of note. Ain't never seen that.
Good hunting. LB
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UTcaller
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posted February 21, 2011 12:53 AM
Yeah it was odd to say the least.
Later I joked with my brother that I thought maybe after I shot the female I could have turned that retreating Male around again if I had used a "Estrus Chirp". lol ![[Roll Eyes]](rolleyes.gif)
Good Hunting Chad
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