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Topic: Kansas Furharvester Hunting and Trapping Survey Report
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booger
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posted August 30, 2010 02:28 PM
Everyone who buys a Kansas Furharvester's license gets the opportunity to fill out a survey at the end of the season.
Got the full survey today and found some interesting stats. Looks like everyone and their dog, (literally), were killing coyotes here during the fur boom of the late 70's. From 1978 to 1980, over 101,000 coyotes were killed.
I checked my hunting journal I have saved on the computer here, and the years the harvest was very low--'98 to 2000, I had the best luck calling. But, prices were so low that you couldn't hardly give them away then--top price I got was $5.00.
Here is a link to the full report--click on the PDF and view:
http://www.kdwp.state.ks.us/news/Other-Services/Research-Publications/Wildlife- Research-Surveys
Last year for example, the harvest was estimated to be around 21,500, both hunted and trapped.
Interesting stats in the hunting section for last year--the maximum number of coyotes by one person was 170, and the average is 6 coyotes taken for every hunter.
One thing that is disturbing is the mention of a coyote season recommended by the Commission to the KDWP. No action was taken, however. Seems like us Kansas guys might have to watch the horizon for some possible change.
Thought you guys might have some interest.
[ August 30, 2010, 02:36 PM: Message edited by: booger ]
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Cdog911
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posted August 30, 2010 02:56 PM
Tim,
The issue of a hunting season on coyotes is more a matter of prohibiting coyote hunting during fairearms deer season, as it is one of making it illegal to hunt coyotes during a longer period of time, such as summer or spring. The Law Enforcement Division has, for the past few years, dealt with a growing number of road hunters in pursuit of deer who, when stopped by an NRO, claim that they're coyote hunting.
If the time should come that they pursue this - and it very well may come sooner than later so they can protect their beloved friggin' deer - I would push to have them modify the closure to provide for hunting coyotes with rimfire rifles or shotguns only - no centerfire rifles - unless you are in possession of a valid Kansas deer tag. This is how NE does it and, admittedly, it's a PITA, but it keeps you hunting.
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booger
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posted August 30, 2010 03:03 PM
That makes sense, Lance--in fact, I think there was a time when you couldn't shoot coyotes during firearms deer season if I remember correctly.
Since the Commissioners are all libtard appointees, it doesn't surprise me they would consider this. Our former governor as secretary doesn't help either...
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Cdog911
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posted August 31, 2010 03:25 PM
The restrictions on hunting coyotes during deer season were lifted a decade or two back. At first, it was the entire season. Then, if I recall, they went to just opening weekend. Then eliminated the restrictions altogether. The past couple years, if you follow the LE blog at KDWP's site, you see the LEO's posting a lot of chatter about the problems they're having with road hunting by deer hunters, as I stated, claiming to be coyote hunting. The solution I offered is only one. They could also/ either eliminate coyote hunting from vehicles or from roads and right-of-ways as well or instead and curtail a lot of the problems. This is just like the conis on public ground issue where they see it as black or white with no grey middle ground. And that's because they're not hunters or trappers - just polis on the latest stepping stone along the way toward their goals and aspirations. If and when it becomes an issue for debate, I'll be writing letters.
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posted September 16, 2010 11:07 AM
Is it not illegal to road hunt any animal anyways?? Pretty sure you can still get popped for hunting/shooting from the road with any animal. Or am I miss informed. I thought it was more of a issue with shooting from a road way that has public traffic than just the fact that they are shooting at a critter. Correct me if im wrong C911??
If it IS illegal to shoot from the road anyway then this should be a non issue and hunters regardless of target should be getting friggin tickets.
PS I hate deer season here in KS people are nuts.
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booger
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posted September 16, 2010 11:21 AM
Patterson,
It is legal to shoot from a country road if you have permission to the side(s) you are hunting.
It is also legal to shoot coyotes from a vehicle--therein lies the rub. Guys shooting deer from a vehicle and claiming to be coyote hunters.
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posted September 16, 2010 02:50 PM
Yeah, Dustin, Tim is right. If you look at the regs, you'll see references to "game animals" and/or "furbearers" neither of which applies to the lowly coyote. C. latrans is listed in KS as a varmint and, as long as you have permission to be where you're at or shooting, you can take him be just about any means you can imagine. In fact, the once head of the Div. of Law Enforcement told me you could hunt them with an M-1 tank, if you just happen to have an M-1 tank. The only "protection" afforded the coyote, in any way, has to do with the issue of licensure. To hunt them, you need a hunting license. To trap them, you need a furharvesting license. To sell them, you need whichever licence they were taken under. Other than that, day or night, 24X7X365, coyotes are wide open in Kansas. And yes, you can shoot from the road way here. No cased gun laws either.
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posted September 20, 2010 06:01 AM
Booger,
Be careful with harvest data. It can be just as much a reflection on coyote numbers as harvest effort. According to the trappers trapping Southern Kansas, SK doesn't have anywhere close to the numbers it used to have due to mange.
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