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Topic: Set or Stand? You make the call....
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Lone Howl
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posted February 03, 2010 01:31 PM
Sooooo, Im out calling and I keep running into people who want to talk hunting setups and they always start off by saying "so, I started my set off with a so and so sound..."
The place I call from is a stand. A set is for trapping.
I have seen a few videos where the caller calls it a set, Randy Anderson for one.
I think a lot of guys think the word "set" is cooler to say, as in a surfer saying: Dude ,Im just waiting for my set"(of waves)
No big deal, been discussed before,I dont think it really matters but just venting.
Mark
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4949shooter
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posted February 03, 2010 01:55 PM
Well when I hunt deer or other critters from an elevated platform it's called a tree stand, not a tree "set."
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Az-Hunter
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posted February 03, 2010 02:05 PM
I wonder if it's a regional thing? No one I know in the west uses that term, they all say "stand". I think it's one of those "eastern" things; just as so many of the guys I know from the east, mis-pronounce Leupold, pronouncing the name Leo-pold, like the author Aldo? Go figure.
Same jingle asses say "clip" instead of the correct term "magazine" I could go on and on:)
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Rich
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posted February 03, 2010 02:19 PM
Randy Anderson is from Nebraska, so the term "stand" was likely what he used BP (before Primos). Now that he has became BIG TIME, he has to sound more important ya know. Primos used to be strictly turkey hunters. Maybe Primos used the term "set" when they set up a turkey blind?
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TundraWookie
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posted February 03, 2010 02:27 PM
Maybe it's a regional thing because I thought a stand was when you were on two feet and a set is when you were on your rump. Maybe I'm missing something here? ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
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Leonard
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posted February 03, 2010 02:27 PM
Those are all good ones. "Set" grates bad, it offends my sensibilities.
So does "Yote" and "Ky yote tee". This has also been discussed before, but it keeps popping up! Hate it! Those things are COYOTES, damnit! KY- YOTES
It's worser than Quiet or "Quite" as they say back east ..... that's one I have long been guilty of. Anything east of Denver is "BACK EAST" from my perspective. Some of those (so called) "midwesterners" take exception but what do they know?
Good hunting. LB
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4949shooter
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posted February 03, 2010 02:43 PM
Well I am an hour from the Atlantic Ocean, so it doesn't get too much more "east" than that, relatively speaking.
BTW, I also dislike the term "yote."
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Locohead
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posted February 03, 2010 02:56 PM
quote:
I wonder if it's a regional thing?
I think I might of had a similar converstion with Vic once? Maybe someone else. Anyway, I've hunted with lots of you folks from outside of Colorado that call ponds "tanks". To me, a pond is a pond and a tank is a tank?!?! ![[Confused]](confused.gif)
As mentioned, all this has been mentioned already. So I'll brave one more already mentioned whooper...my personal regional favorite pronunciation of coyotes is the one syllable 'kautz'
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Cdog911
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posted February 03, 2010 03:13 PM
To me, a "stand" is an all inclusive term for the sake of brevity that pretty much includes everything related to calling in the situation I am in and infers that I sat down, called and hopefully killed a coyote, as in, "I made three stands today and killed seventeen coyotes." I think of it as, "This is where I'm taking a stand against these dad-burned coyoteees"
I have heard the term "set" used to describe what is, to me, a stand, and even heard it repeatedly in a conversation this weekend but continued to use the word "stand" in hopes of retraining the person with whom I was speaking via persistent repetition. If and when I use the word "set" to refer to a "stand", I include the modifier "up" as in "set up" which indicates that I intend to continue further with a more detailed description of the stand, to include where I was relative to nearby and distant structure, wind direction and the like.
A new member here has used the vernacular "yote" already and, not wanting to be rude to the new guy, I didn't take the opportunity to warn him about the consequences of using such a vial term. You know who you are,....this has been your warning. ![[Wink]](wink.gif) Some people are just in such a hurry to be efficient with their time, that they somehow see a benefit to culling syllables. I work with a guy named Bryan, and one of our other co-workers started calling him "Bry" from his first day in the office. I found that to be very, very annoying - like calling me "Lan" - so I took to calling him, "Brrr" and even "Buh!" just to be even more annoying. The instigator got the point. If you're in too big a hurry to call someone or something by their correct name, you're not important. You're just a piss poor time manager. Then again, I may just let little things bug me too much. ![[Roll Eyes]](rolleyes.gif)
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Lone Howl
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posted February 03, 2010 03:47 PM
Very well said Lan, exactly the way I feel.
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Leonard
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posted February 03, 2010 04:41 PM
Yeah, ditto, and since you mention it, more petty little shit. Loco(xxxx) occasionally calls me Leon, which I HATE!
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Dan Carey
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posted February 03, 2010 05:50 PM
In the southwestern desert when hunting predators, I prefer to stand, I'm totally opposed to setting as the cacti is everywhere.
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TOM64
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posted February 03, 2010 06:05 PM
I knew you westerners didn't know your tail from a hole in the ground. So you sat down and called but you call it a stand? Go figure!
I worked with a guy who was a band singer at night and "set's" were what he did when he was calling young ladies, so what's the difference?
Leon did bring it to my attention once and now I tend to make stands, never really noticed or cared before.
As for LEO-POLD it will always be that to me, even though I try to pronounce it correctly, LOO-POLD just doesn't sound right.
Coyotes is always coyotes though, several years ago I went with the wife to one of her meetings in Lubbock. Me and Ray England had been hunting coyotes but had to be there on the last night, (to show support and all). They got us on stage along with another guy to introduce us and this other guys wife (who was pretty important in the company) said we had been hunting coyotees. All three of us in unison corrected her before we really had time to think about it.
I think ya'll have too much time on your hands.
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Bryan J
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posted February 03, 2010 06:07 PM
I don’t know if it is a regional thing or not I hear guys around here call them sets. I have just kind of used it as an indicator of how long that individual has been hunting coyotes. Sets will always be flat, blind, or with some kind of hole.
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TOM64
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posted February 03, 2010 06:07 PM
Dan, maybe that's the reason but I thought Rockin boy just invented standing on stands?
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Cdog911
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posted February 03, 2010 06:24 PM
"Sets will always be flat, blind, or with some kind of hole."
I swear I'm not going to comment on this. Not at all.
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Locohead
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posted February 03, 2010 06:28 PM
I always say stand too. It can be confusing to those outside of the fraternity. (I hate that word - I think its Hubers fault) More than once I've been talking predator hunting with other hunters that know nothing about hunting coyotes and had them think I was talking about tree 'stands'.
I love nick-names. My wife's best friends' name is Kimberly. Everyone calls her Kim. I figured I'd use the back-half of her name and now she's 'berly' or 'burly'. Take the middle half of RichHiggins and you get 'chHigg' start in the middle and you get Chiggins.
I've got a friend that I always call by his full name - Demian C. Klausing. Every now and then I shorten it to just 'D' but it has to be for something like "Look Out D."
'Leon' is my favorite because it sounds way cooler than just plain ol' ordinary 'Len' - besides that is short for Lennard not Leonard. I like the shortend version 'Leon' - sounds a little like The Great Leonardo Da Vicci - 'Leon' makes me think of Lion, you know the "King of Beasts!" "The Mightiest of Hunters" These are the things I endeavor to communicate every time I type the letters L.E.O.N.
Leon The Great, King of Beasts, Mightiest of Hunters
...but if prefer...len...'sniff sniff'...I will... ![[Frown]](frown.gif)
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Bryan J
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posted February 03, 2010 06:33 PM
Ok, Lance that was after I tried trapping, before that a set was a group of songs the band at the bar played between breaks.
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Kokopelli
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posted February 03, 2010 07:18 PM
Ok, to review;
A stand is when you sit calling coyotes,
A set is when you kneel burying a trap,
A sit is what you do on a tailgate at lunchtime,
Most ranchers use the one syllable 'Kautz' pronounciation.
Coues Deer is pronounced 'Cows'.
LEONard has only one rule; Don't piss him off,
And, Koko was Rex Allens horse, not the handsome rascle known around here.
Clear as mud, eh???
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Possumal
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posted February 03, 2010 07:33 PM
Never heard anybody call a stand a set. You can sit on a stand or stand on a stand, but it is still a stand.
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Leonard
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posted February 03, 2010 07:39 PM
edit: ^what he said.
I usually let girl friends call me Len or "Lenny". Everybody else; it would be nice if we were together on this. I (personally) prefer Leonard, but know there are those than prefer asshole or prick. Whatever blows your skirt up, girls!
Good hunting. LB
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Rich
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posted February 03, 2010 08:29 PM
"you folks from outside of Colorado that call ponds "tanks". To me, a pond is a pond and a tank is a tank"
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Locohead,
I do believe that you have been speaking to Texans.
I have a friend or three in Wellington, Texas. I stayed with Scott Tarver down there a few times, so I know that coyotes are "cowtes", oil is "Ole" and a pond is a "tank". I used to tell him all of the time that "you texans talk funny". One day he really thru me off when he was telling me about looking for air heads down by the river. When I asked him what the heck an air head was, he said "Air heads, You know like bow and airs?" Geeze, I almost died laughing.
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JoeF
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posted February 03, 2010 08:54 PM
I've kind of settled on "LB". Short and to the point. We probably all know who that refers to. Pronounced "Ellll-Beee".
Past that, I get confused.
Stands are where we kill things....
Coyotes, deer, or Custers.
Sets are a deep and diverse subject...
Sets - I've played a few. Used to head outside between them to have a smoke.
Sets - I've chased a few. A synonym - a pair. A great pair. What a great set!
Sets - I've made a few. Caught a great looking fox... and then my memories get mixed.
Moved to ILLNoize and have had to adapt (not well) to everything being called a "blind". Deer blinds, turkey blinds, "do you think I can kill a coyote from a blind?"
Sorry guys, but blinds are for killing ducks. That simple.
I will fess up to (evidently?) mispronouncing the word "coyote". We all knew what we were talking about.
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Locohead
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posted February 03, 2010 09:07 PM
Killer Kronk, Jeepers that really is funny. Kids are getting ready for bed and everyone came running out of the bedroom to see what I was laughing at.
I could totally see your confusion..."looking for Air Heads"? I can just see you scratching your head in all earnest trying to decipher the meaning...then he tells you..."air heads like bows and airs"...
Gee, maybe I'm just in a giddy mood but that one just outright tickled me. ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
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Locohead
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posted February 03, 2010 09:13 PM
I just now read Joe's post. I dig it.
LB = Alby, like the mini version of Alberto!
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