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Topic: finally a hunting pardner...mabey!
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predatorhunter
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posted January 21, 2010 04:36 PM
Took my new son-in-law coyote hunting;
set him up in the tree line under a cedar
overlooking a open field about five acres
long.I set up in a rock pile in middle of the field;watching the opposite direction.
I had the caller above us in the fenceline
to my right. I had intended for him to take
his first coyote and told him if one
responded it would probally be his shot,
because every one I had taken there came
from where he was facing.Now I had'nt
called from that farm in a year and half
and the owner had called me; saying that the coyotes were climbing on his hay bails
and causing them to come apart.
Well,after hearing some of my stories
and being grilled on the basics of
being still trigger control ect. he
was dyin to go so,I desided to bring
him along. About five minutes into the
calling;I hear him shoot but, wasn't sure
if he connected or not. I was about to go
to coyote distress in case he missed or there
may have been two;when all of a sudden he
stands up and begins to walk to me. When
he gets to me he was still shaking,and
said there were two not fifty yards behind
me in a dead run. He said he was shakin'
so hard he tried to hold his breath to steadi
the gun but couldn't. I informed him that if he had waited they would have probally overrun
me and gave him a closer shot and next time
don't stand up if he misses or takes
one; I can usually call them back! Then I
smiled and said don't worry you'll
get other chances;and in time you'll learn.
I could tell this kid was hooked.And
even though we din't take one,that was
enough for me. Now,if I can just teach him
to shoot!
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Locohead
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posted January 25, 2010 01:30 PM
LOL Great story PH!
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predatorhunter
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posted January 25, 2010 07:03 PM
Thanks Loco. He's got the basics down, with a little more experience I think he will make a
good huntin partner. Would sure be nice to have
somebody watchin' the back door. Mabey I should
invite Leonard. I bet he would come if I let him
use the Ar.;seein' how he's a big fan and all!!
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Leonard
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posted January 25, 2010 07:25 PM
Yeah, well I'm a bit curious. Everyone I know says stay the hell out of Kentucky. What's the deal, do they shoot first and ask questions later?
When I was in Missouri, a while back, we were out on the motel patio's upper deck, sharing a jug of moonshine. After we broke it up, this old boy from Kentucky, a neighbor from few doors down, kept popping in for a sip, which we were glad to oblige. I guess they like their likker, in Kentucky?
Good hunting. LB ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
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predatorhunter
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posted January 25, 2010 08:11 PM
Most of the hunters up here are real diehard hunters; the biggest problem with huntin' around here is if you're hunting on strange land,you might wakl upon a meth lab. Wish they would declair them as varmints so we could shoot them!
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Okanagan
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posted January 26, 2010 08:21 AM
Predatorhunter,
My father-in-law got me started calling coyotes and other game. I first called with him before I married his daughter. He was really good at it, and taught me basic principles that I've been able to extrapolate into calling more than 30 kinds of critters.
What was really special was that when he was in his 80's he went cougar calling with me and my son, his grandson, and we got a cougar the first stand. He'd lost some of his edge and would whisper to me at times as he and I sat together on a hummock in a frozen swamp. I just considered it a fun outing for old times sake, never expecting to call in a cougar let alone shoot one, but my son saw it coming and shot it.
Golly that was a fun day. The return home to his daughter (my wife) and the great-grandkids was triumphal.
You have a good thing going! Just don't overbear and over teach and let him have fun even if it means missing out on some game or messing up a stand sometimes.
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posted January 26, 2010 05:44 PM
PH, that's a great thing, on many counts. Great to get another hunter started. Great to see someone get a bit excited, great for the family fellowship that you'll create. He'll feel more a part of the family by being involved.
I like to swat them off the top of those hay bales when get a chance, though sometimes you gotta watch the backstop......
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predatorhunter
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posted January 26, 2010 06:10 PM
Your're right about that Okanagan,dispite all the yotes I've killed over the years;it's the ones that got away that make the best stories.
Like the time I took my nephew and he left his gun home. He had hunted with me before but,only
during the day.In Ky. at the time,you could only night hunt during a full moon.He was excited about going because he knew they were more active at night and weren't as shy of coming into a field.He was only about sixteen at the time and didn't have much camo so,I told him to dress in layers and let him wear one of my scentloc suits.While he was getting dressed I loaded up my calls and gun and warmed up the truck. I came back in and he was ready so I told him to get in the truck and I'd be out as soon as I got my thermos. I never noticed that he had left his gun . Well we arived at the amish farm where we were going to hunt and the coyotes were already carring on. I got my calls and my gun and then it dawned on him ;he'd forgot his gun!
It was too far to drive home and then come back,and I figured with them already howling;we would probally get busted anyway. So, I told him to just watch my back,and if anything tried to sneak in; to stay calm and just say pst... and not to move. we set up in a fence line dividing two fields with a woods to the left. Now there was a big cedar in the fence line with limbs just high enough to sit under so, I slid up against it with the moon to my back and put him on the other side of the fence under the same tree. The wind was calm and after letting things calm down a bit, I started to call. In less than two minutes I caught glimpse of something moving in the wood line. I squeeked a couple of times and here it came. A nice size coyote. I aligned the crosshairs and squeased and watched him drop. Then I saw another on the ridge line of a small hill in the middle of the field;hoping that my nephew wouldn't jump up and ask if I had got the first one, I went to a kiyi. There it came! I aimed and pulled the trigger and down it went. My nephew never moved; I was so proud of him. I was just about to get up to retrieve the two coyotes when I saw another trying to circle. I couldn't believe my eyes, I had never called a triple ever;let alone after firing two shots! Anyway I tried to stop him but, he went into the woods. Then all of a sudden my nephew began to go pst... pst.... I turned around to see this coyote runnin' right at my nephew and all he could do was point and say pst... pst.... Well she ran almost in his lap, realized he was human, turned and threw grass in his face trying to get traction to change directions . I was laughing so hard I couldn't have shot it if I tried! That was the last time he would go with me at night. He has went many times with me in the day but, he always remembers his gun!
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predatorhunter
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posted January 26, 2010 06:22 PM
That's a great pic Joef! I made it back out to the place where we called those two; caught one on a bail mouseing. He won't be doing that again! Got home and my son-in law asked what call I used, and I told him I used the hay bail in distress. Going to take him back Saturday. Supposed to be 27/flurries. Should be a good day. Hope to get him his first one. He's got the fever for sure!
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Locohead
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posted January 26, 2010 08:54 PM
Yep, great picture Joe. Funny story Pred'Hunter!
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Kokopelli
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posted January 27, 2010 07:44 AM
Ok........ I'm a little confused here. I mean, I can understand the relationship between the cattle / sheep ranchers out west and coyotes. Coyotes kill livestock & ranchers kill coyotes.
But........ why would farmers in the mid-west / east want to kill or allow to be killed, the coyotes that eat the mice & ground squirrels & such that eat the green stuff they grow & bale?????
Somebody 'plain this to me, please. ![[Confused]](confused.gif)
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Jrbhunter
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posted January 27, 2010 11:34 AM
"Somebody 'plain this to me, please. "
I think the biggest difference is the mindset and scale of "farmers" from the East to West.
I heard last week that the average herd of cattle in Indiana contains 12 animals. Most homesteads in my region operate on 20-40 acres. Puts things in perspective, not a lot of windfall profits involved here.
The majority of our local farmers lean toward the heritage, hobby and enjoyment of farming over the steady incomes seen in the Central or Western states. Many operate a side-business or hold another occupation for steady income. Those DEPENDING on beef, dairy or pork operations have dropped significantly in the last 10 years here.
These local farm operators are also avid hunters of big game and small game. Many of them have a considerable interest in protecting the deer, turkey & rabbit that inhabit the family farm from coyotes and trespassers.
We have farmers who will rut-up their beautiful alfalfa field to retrieve a deer or check trail-cameras. Some will let their rocrops stand in the field for 3-4 extra weeks if it conflicts with their deer hunting. The mindset and scale of farms in my area is very different than those of the West.
It's also noteworthy that these 26 acre homesteads with 9 brood cows are often home to childrens 4-H calves, goats, ducks, floppy eared rabbits, chickens, coonhounds and other cute oddities drug in from the local auction house or Tractor Supply Company. Conflicts with those critters can really give coyotes a bad wrap. One murdered goat and the whole valley gets all up-in-arms for years.
Hell, look at Andy, he's still hung up on desegregation! Takes a while for these rednecks to get over traumatic stuff like that. ![[Wink]](wink.gif)
PS: Welcome Predatorhunter. I'm a few mile from Brandenburg, hoping to get down to your side of the river for a bobcat next month.
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Kokopelli
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posted January 27, 2010 12:26 PM
Well, that makes sense; different area, different logic. Thanx.
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predatorhunter
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posted January 27, 2010 05:24 PM
Where I live theres alot of big farmers that raise 100-200 head of cows as well as various other animals such as chickens, sheep, ect. And there's alot of Amish with livestock. In fact the Amish farms join mine. They all have me to try to keep coyotes in check so that they don't have so mamy newborns killed. Especially the Amish,because they raise most of what they eat;and are too busy in crops to hunt much until deer season. Plus all the reasons Jrb said. By the way Jrb, I live in Sonora; mabey we can go hunting some time. Bobcats are getting thicker here. My neighbor hit one with his truck last spring.
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Jrbhunter
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posted January 27, 2010 09:01 PM
Been past Sonora on the interstate a million times, never visited. Plenty of big cattle operations down there around the stockyards. My father spent almost 20 years slaughtering what came out of that yard.
I have attended the United Trappers of Kentucky fur sales and meets in E-Town the last couple years. UTK are some good people, you should visit with them sometime. Small group of "real deal" guys.
My email is Jrbhunter@hotmail.com
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predatorhunter
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posted January 28, 2010 06:57 PM
You can learn alot about coyote habits from trappers. That's how I learned to find bedding areas and scent posts. I'll have to check them out! Been reloading this evening preparing for Saturday. If we get the six to eleven inches of snow the're callin' for, should make for some good huntin. Got the caller charged, mouth calls laid out,ammo loaded,and snow camo ready. My son-in -law is off so,were gona make a day of it. My e-mail is predatorhunters@windstream.net, holler sometime if u get a chance to hunt down this way Jrb.
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