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Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on July 18, 2009, 02:59 PM:
I think there is some benefit in having a plan, when going on a hunt so that you don't forget anything. If anybody has something that makes their preparation easier with less mistakes, by all means, let's hear from you.
The first thing I assess is my ammunition and batteries. If I need to load, I do it, providing at least twice as many rounds as I think I will need. At this time I also start charging all the batteries I will be using, for flashlights and electronic calls. There again, I usually pack at least twice what I think I will need.
I make sure all the fluids are topped off on the truck and change oil as needed. I also take along at least a couple spare quarts of oil and a gallon of antifreeze. I also make sure that my portable starter battery has a full charge.
Okay, then I start with warm weather clothes. Even if it is early season, I always have a warm jacket and a spare pair of boots. I pack 5 or 6 extra pair of socks and several changes of underwear and at least another pair of civilian pants.
I go through the house from top to bottom because I can't store everything in one location. Every room, den, garage, bed room, hall closets, and a storage shed out back. That way, I seldom forget an essential item.
As I put a firearm in the vehicle, I pack the ammo for that gun. In other words, I don't pack an armload of guns and then a bunch of ammo...too easy to forget. Example, I throw in a 22-250 and a 243 and then pack ammo for the 22-250 and a 6mm. That's a no no. The gun and the ammo go in together. If you only use one gun, great. But, I might pack different gund depending on where I am going and of course, they are not always the same.
Cammo. Yeah, I know we don't need it but I always pack several sets, bibs and separates, mix and match, desert and woodland and don't forget your snow camo because just as soon as you decide that it's October and you don't need it, guess what? I have encountered blizzards in October plenty times, so I never even take my snow cables out of the truck, I don't care what season it is. A live and learn situation.
So, you want to make sure that you have a good assortment of hand calls, make sure your hunting lights work, check your tire pressure, try the electronics make sure they are functioning properly and always keep the remote with the machine; that way you won't forget it. Pack a couple spare 9V batteries for the remote. If it's cold, you may need to change them a couple times. Sun glasses and an extra pair of corrective lenses. Bring your subzero mukluks, never apologize if it turns out that they weren't needed. Brink extras for the other guy if he has a history of coming unprepared.....
Pack plenty of snacks and cold drinks and bring at least two good thermos'. Music? Might as well, if your partner is sleeping on ya. I don't like to see a partner sleep while I'm driving and visa versa. I had one asshole fall asleep on me while I was in the back and my son was supposed to be keeping the driver company. But, guess what, they both fell asleep and we crossed over oncoming traffic and went bouncing around out in the desert! So, change drivers and work together. I never closed my eyes on that dude ever again.
You need to pack local maps in as fine detail as necessary. Road maps are still necessary because the GPS gives a sort of tunnel vision, if you know what I mean?
Make sure that you know where you packed stuff. I remember one time when I had all my gear on board and my buddy threw in all his crap on top of all of my stuff. Fine, but when we got to where we were hunting, we had some really nasty weather and short of tossing all his gear out in the snow, I couldn't get to any of my stuff. And, he had a lot, tables, camping gear, tent, etc. Put your stuff on one side and make him pack his stuff on the other side. Don't be a nice guy and leave him all the room while you store your gear in side compartments because he's going to be lazy and throw all his stuff hither and yon, and dominate the whole back, if you let him!
Make sure that you have hunting licenses and tags or at least know where to get them before you hit the dirt. Always set your trip odometer and make sure you know how far you can drive on a tank of gas. This is basically for wildeness or remote areas. If you never leave sight of the blacktop, it probably doesn't matter as much?
So, what did I miss? There's always something and hopefully, it isn't a big deal.
Anybody have a thought or two on how to plan a trouble free hunt?
Good hunting. LB
Posted by 22-250 (Member # 36) on July 18, 2009, 05:14 PM:
The key to the spare tire lock!
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on July 18, 2009, 06:20 PM:
Oh man! That was a good one, wasn't it? It's amazing what you can do to a 3/8ths cable with a hammer and beating against the frame for an hour or so?
But, I got it now. We learn from our mistakes.
And, BTW, that wasn't you I was talking about throwing all your gear on top of mine. Could have been, but wasn't. ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
Good hunting. LB
[ July 18, 2009, 06:21 PM: Message edited by: Leonard ]
Posted by Tim Behle (Member # 209) on July 18, 2009, 06:21 PM:
Bolt cutters ![[Wink]](wink.gif)
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on July 18, 2009, 06:23 PM:
Yeah, bolt cutters or a voltage inverter and a grinder might be just as good, maybe better?
Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on July 18, 2009, 06:26 PM:
As the hunting season gets closer i start to remove work related equipement from the truck and start putting in equipement i would need for just incase. Firstaid kit, 2 cans of fix-a-flat, spare batteries and a few maps, tow strap and two short chains, shovel, extra oil, small allen wrench set, scope lens cleaner,shooting targets, and a small tool bag..
Most of my hunting gear is organized in key areas in the house so i just have to walk into a room and pic what i will need for the trip.
Like Leonard i take along 3 different sets of camo's and a few extra in one color.
I try to have my gear set out and ready for loading into the truck 2-3 days ahead of time and i make sure all electronics is charged and workable at least a week in advance or sooner.
I go through the guns a few days before and make sure they are clean and enough ammo is loaded up, i try to bring at least 3 guns on a hunt..
I use three bags for my gear, one for hunting cloths and extra pr. of boots, a call bag with extra batteries and maps, extra lens pen and i also put my ammo in it. The third bag is for extra gloves, skinning equipement, extra rifle sling, string,camo face masks, extra pr. of socks, flash lites, ect.
I site my rifles in on the mourning i leave for my trip and if anything is forgotten i then drive by the house and pick it up on my way west..
Posted by CrossJ (Member # 884) on July 18, 2009, 07:08 PM:
Tools. I also take an extra set of wiper blades. Even a new set can get cut up pretty quick in icey conditions. I also stated carrying one of those small aircompressors that plug into the cig lighter. They arent super fast, but have been very handy at times.
Tom, I see you are in Longview now. My kids live in Marshal during the school year.
Maintain
P.S. Don't forget the TP
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on July 18, 2009, 07:14 PM:
You misread that sig line, Geordie. He is happy to be long gone from Long Valley, a long time ago. He lives in posh Poway, CA these days.
Good hunting. LB
edit: yeah, I always have an air compressor on board, but I really like an idea I noticed on the REZZ. They carry an air tank, a lot faster than a small compressor. The dirt bikers use them, as well. If you have the space, it's a good idea.
[ July 18, 2009, 07:18 PM: Message edited by: Leonard ]
Posted by CrossJ (Member # 884) on July 18, 2009, 07:33 PM:
Yep, Sorry. I was wondering why someone would leave the high desert for east Tx?
I agree, the airtank is very handy, but it does take up space. I once built a rear bumper out of 6" pipe. The ends were sealed, and it could be charged just like an airtank. Very handy, and out of the way.
Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on July 18, 2009, 07:35 PM:
Back in the hot rod days if the rear bumper was to high we had to put a pipe or bar below it to get a legal height. Since most of us use airshocks we went the pipe route and sealed both ends and put a air-chuck adapter on it and filled with air incase we had to add some to the shocks.. Later on when i bought my first 4-wheel drive i had the same thing done to the roll-bar. Comes in pretty handy and don't take up any room. Now i just have a couple cans of fix-a-flat along..
Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on July 18, 2009, 07:36 PM:
LOL we posted at same time..
Posted by Cdog911 (Member # 7) on July 18, 2009, 07:36 PM:
I see that Leonard included the extra eyeglasses. I always keep at least one old pair in the glove box in case the ones I use daily get broken and no longer wearable. Most of my trips out are an 8 hour jaunt on a good day and I'd hate to make that drive in a blurry haze.
Speaking of extra stuff, my grandpa taught me when I first got a truck to have things like belts and hoses replaced with new stuff before they break, then put the old ones in the toolbox to use if the one on the truck should break. Along with a jug of 50/50 antifreeze, there has been two different times when I got back up and going by removing an old hose (heater or radiator), replaced it with the old used one, filled her with coolant and hit the road again.
Two spare tires. Daddy always said never go anywhere without a spare, and if you're in the middle of nowhere and you use your only spare, there you are. Without a spare.
A lesson I took from my dear mommy years ago was to make lists. Lotsa lists. I start compiling a list of everything I'll need at least two weeks in advance of the trip. Keep it on the fridge or someplace equally handy where I can add to it on the fly by. Keep a small slip of paper in one pocket so I can add to it when away from home (at work) and something comes to mind. Check things off as they go in the truck to make sure you get it all. I keep a "master list" in a desk drawer as the start of the next one. It has evolved over the past few years to add a few things and drop some others.
Years in the fire and Emed service taught me to be compartment oriented. My toolbox carries stuff stowed in very specific places, including ammo, calls, decoys, cammies, and guns when appropriate. Skinning stuff, too. Speaking of that, I made a dandy skinning rig for my truck this year as well as a fleshing beam, both of which mount to the receiver hitch. Keep latex gloves, several types of knives, a sharpener and an apron in the toolbox and skin/ flesh everything in the field. Much more efficient than toting dead critters all over, especially when traveling. Peel, flesh and dust the skin side with borax.
Always have at least two rifles with me, and a shotgun. Hate to be eight hours from home and be gun poor.
[ July 18, 2009, 07:38 PM: Message edited by: Cdog911 ]
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on July 18, 2009, 07:39 PM:
Anybody that can arc weld the ends shut on a 6" pipe is a decent welder.
edit: I'd be forced to TIG 'em.
[ July 18, 2009, 07:43 PM: Message edited by: Leonard ]
Posted by Lonny (Member # 19) on July 19, 2009, 04:03 AM:
For the big trips I make a list weeks in advance just so nothing vital is forgotten.
When keys were mentioned above it reminded me of my brother-in-law, who on 3 trips that I was with him locked his keys in the cab and the "hidden" spare was never to be found. I can also remember spending a considerable amount of time trying to find keys in 6" of snow. Frustrating. Always have a spare set or three along.
Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on July 19, 2009, 05:19 AM:
While lists of what to bring are good, I think that the list needs to be edited somewhat regularly to delete unneeded items. Otherwise we end up driving a tackle box with 'Winnebego' written on the side of it, knowing we have what we need but having no idea where it's at 'cause we brought along to much crap.
Posted by Greenside (Member # 10) on July 20, 2009, 07:19 AM:
4 ft farm jack, a couple of short oak 2x12, 4 way lug wrench, fencing pliers, short roll of 12 ga wire, short coal shovel for snow and long handle sand shovel for mud and snow, couple rings of bologna and a block of extra sharp cheddar, 3-5 gallons of drinking water.
Dennis
Edit: I should mention that I'm on blood thinners and I alway have a few applications of QR Stop Bleed powder in my first aid kit along with a pen of Dermabond wound closure(super glue). Might be a good idea for everyone.
[ July 20, 2009, 08:14 AM: Message edited by: Greenside ]
Posted by onecoyote (Member # 129) on July 20, 2009, 10:07 AM:
My California rigs were always ready. Everything I needed was in the truck ready to go for a weekend of day hunting or night hunting.
All I needed to add was my partner, guns&ammo and money. Of course I didn't have all the toys they have nowadays to take along.
Posted by Paul Melching (Member # 885) on July 20, 2009, 10:31 AM:
Most of my calling ,camping gear ect. is kept in large plastic containers that can be loaded up easily. I just need to decide which rifle or guns and ammo need to be taken along and not forget my hunting lic. Ive done that more than once. The extra glasses are a must Ive a few pair out there somewhere under a bush.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on July 20, 2009, 10:48 AM:
Good contributions, thus far.
I don't know why I forgot to mention my hilift jack? Maybe because it's always on board. I didn't know they were called farm jacks?
And, Danny. Yes, when I was hunting competitively, I also kept a lot of the necessary gear in the truck all the time. But, there have been times when I didn't own a dedicated hunting rig.
Yeah, of course pills and a decent first aid kit.
What else?
edit: I always have a coffee can with as much tire repair plugs of different sizes and glue and the poking thingees. That can has saved me a long walk, a number of times.
Good hunting. LB
[ July 20, 2009, 10:50 AM: Message edited by: Leonard ]
Posted by Dusty Hunter (Member # 1031) on July 20, 2009, 11:37 AM:
I always like to make sure I have a good stash of TP on board. It saves ripping up t-shirts. ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
Posted by Paul Melching (Member # 885) on July 20, 2009, 12:07 PM:
always like to make sure I have a good stash of TP on board. It saves ripping up t-shirts.
I'snt that what those camo gloves are for?
Posted by Tim Behle (Member # 209) on July 21, 2009, 09:40 AM:
quote:
I'snt that what those camo gloves are for?
No, that's what you Buddies extra gloves are for!
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on July 21, 2009, 10:36 AM:
quote:
No, that's what you Buddies extra gloves are for!
What I always do is to sneak those slightly soiled gloves back into his pocket when he ain't looking; particularly if he is an avid hand caller and a camo nut.... dang, hope he don't read this!
Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on July 21, 2009, 12:28 PM:
quote:
I don't know why I forgot to mention my hilift jack? Maybe because it's always on board. I didn't know they were called farm jacks?
We call them Handi-man jacks up this way..
They where pretty popular at one time but most people now don't use the dam things. I use the jack that came with my pick-up and i also carry a hydralic floor jack and a few pieces of 1x4's..
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on July 21, 2009, 02:17 PM:
Tim, they ain't for changing tires. They are sort of an insurance policy for when you find yourself in a rut. You jack it up and then push your truck off of it, hopefully out of the rut or so you can fill the rut with branches or rocks. They have that stuff in Minneeso ta, don't they?
Good hunting. LB
PS hey, how's this "change" working for ya?
Posted by 3 Toes (Member # 1327) on July 21, 2009, 02:56 PM:
A handi man used to be pretty good insurance, now you can't find a pickup with a bumper that will tolerate one. Damn rounded bumpers and tin and plastic. Unless you change out bumpers a handi man is worthless anymore. I have 2 or 3 of them laying around here. No sense even packing them. I have found a winch to be a necessity now days. Now that I have a truck on loan from Obama, I just get up, have a cup of coffee, and go kill something. Everything is in there already.
Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on July 21, 2009, 02:58 PM:
LOL's Leonard. Not too many places i can get into trouble here. Out in the Dakotas there are a few bad areas where a guy could get his truck hung up, but i just stay away from those spots and go around..LOL
Besides thats what the ATV is for. ![[Razz]](tongue.gif)
Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on July 21, 2009, 03:04 PM:
Cal that was one thing i noticed about ADC trucks. Well equiped and everything in its place..
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on July 21, 2009, 05:20 PM:
Well, yeah! If you got a new truck, they are worthless. However, my hunting truck is a 1974 Dodge Power Wagon, pretty much bullet proof.
Good hunting. LB
Posted by Cdog911 (Member # 7) on July 21, 2009, 05:24 PM:
Speaking of PBO,
I was razzing the union guys at work today by asking them how this pro-labor president is doing for them. LOL Told them I was happy that they were finally seeing the "change" they'd been wanting - when we had W for President, they thought they were being screwed. Now that we have PBO, they KNOW they're getting screwed! That's CHANGE you can believe in! had to shut my yap after that as you aren't allowed to discuss politics on the work floor in a federal office. LOL
Posted by Dave Allen (Member # 3102) on July 23, 2009, 10:55 PM:
As mentioned a four way lug nut wrench is an absolute necessity. Guy's forget when they add aftermarket-custom wheel's to their rig the factory lug wrench probably won't fit the aftermarket lug nut's.
I learned that the hard way..
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on July 24, 2009, 08:42 AM:
Dave, I have a difficult time thinking that our members take those fancy rims out in the dirt!
Good hunting. LB
edit: except maybe Higgins who offroads in a ridiculous little Mazda sportster?
[ July 24, 2009, 12:22 PM: Message edited by: Leonard ]
Posted by nd coyote killer (Member # 40) on July 24, 2009, 10:44 AM:
Cheap gun cleaning kit for obstructions in the barrel. After falling flat on my face!
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on July 24, 2009, 12:13 PM:
Funny story.
Colorado rifle season 203 zone. We had located a couple nice bucks that were associated with a bunch of pronghorns. You know, they weren't chummy, but they were near enough that spooking any of those goats would allert the deer.
So, we decided to approach from over a couple washes. My partner has a Weatherby Mark 5 chambered in 300 Weatherby and going down the first grade, he snagged a foot on some brush and pole vaulted with his rifle barrel stuck in snow and wet mud.
After a short conversation we decided to go back to the truck but all cleaning equipment was left at camp so we performed a bit of what they call in the Army as "field expediency" and poured hot coffee downhis barrel to flush out the plug.
Then, we started our stalk and since we were basically following in previous footsteps, (I kid you not!) he tripped and fell again, and did the same thing.....back to the truck for more coffee.
So, by the third trek, as we topped the last ridge, we glassed everywhere and the bucks had moved on and it wasn't pronghorn season.
Yes, another lesson learned. I always carry a one piece cleaning rod in the back of the truck and have had to use it a couple times for various reasons.
Good hunting. LB
PS, Pat is an excellent hunter and this might make him look bad, but it just goes to show that "stuff" can happen to anyone.
another thing: something that occasionally happens to accuracy nuts that seat bullets to the lands. Extracting a cartridge can pull the bullet, leaving it in the barrel, while dumping 50 grains of ball powder in your action. This is never good, as those tiny grains have a way of getting into the wrong parts of your trigger.
[ July 24, 2009, 12:20 PM: Message edited by: Leonard ]
Posted by George Ackley (Member # 898) on July 24, 2009, 01:08 PM:
your list is good Leonard,
the only thing I do a little different is make shore I have a small bag for my shaving kid towel and 2 changes of close so I don't need to pull any big bags out if and when i stop at motels.
other then that because where I hunt I have a sat phone with me all the time , duct tape and one large bin of stuff to survive a couple days in my truck if I need to ..And because they know where your at don't mean they can get to yea. so be ready. just in the last 3 years i have been stuck once for 23 hours and once's for 10 hours once in north western Maine and another time in British Colombia .
So I make shore my secondary 75 gal tank is at least 1/2 full of diesel once I start to hunt.
like you said lot of snacks and water and most important is that my winch is working well .
and video camera and batteries . so far some of my best videos are of us stuck..
ps sorry about my spelling
[ July 24, 2009, 01:11 PM: Message edited by: George Ackley ]
Posted by 3 Toes (Member # 1327) on July 24, 2009, 02:51 PM:
I can't think of the brand name, but there is a cleaning rod that is basically a piece of coated cable that rolls up in a pouch. Not something I'd recomend for regular use, but in a pinch they do work and stow practically anywhere. I have a couple of them stashed in glove boxes.
[ July 24, 2009, 02:52 PM: Message edited by: 3 Toes ]
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on July 24, 2009, 03:35 PM:
Yeah, they (pull type cleaning kit) will do some things. But they won't dislodge a plug of mud or a stuck bullet.
Good hunting. LB
Posted by 3 Toes (Member # 1327) on July 24, 2009, 04:29 PM:
Not a stuck bullet LB, but they will push a pretty good mud plug out. Don't really want to go into how I know that.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on July 24, 2009, 07:19 PM:
That's easy to figure, Cal. Must have been a client? Dudes! Hey! Wasn't Brad, was it?
Good hunting. LB
Posted by JoeF (Member # 228) on July 25, 2009, 02:33 AM:
Add my name to the list of those who know the value of having a good cleaning rod along.
Water. Not necessarily for drinking. If I've ever had an issue with vehicle mobility (that I had any hope of fixing) it revolved around coolant/water.
Tools. You can never have too many.
Home Despot ***** a Husky branded set of tools in a plastic case for $80-$100 that is hard to beat. A two foot by two foot by 3 inch plastic case that beats the hell out of our old clunky metal tool boxes that were not so easy to store. Every tool has its' own molded home. I've had an on-going personal challenge for the last few years to find a job that I could not accomplish with this kit. Add a few wire nuts and some screws in the storage compartments provided and you can deal with most anything.
Used to be that I would have laughed at the thought of anyone leaving home w/o their ammo. How could you be so stupid???? I'm the guy that has nightmares about running out of ammo.
Until I did it myowndamnedself.
Fortunately it was a only a simple trip to the PASA park to sight-in/verify prior to a SD p-dog shoot. A buddy stopped by my house and we loaded my rifles and then returned to the house for the ammo. We got detained/delayed/distracted by the wife and one of us walked out of there w/o the ammo boxes that contained the 223 and 243 stuff.
I kinda forgave the guy, the old gal had been known to make me do some stupid crap too....
I am now a fanatic about checking that I have firearms and the actual bullets that fit them actually loaded up in the vehicle that I will actually leave in.
And wool socks.
If you don't understand that, you haven't needed them. If you haven't needed them you won't appreciate that. Wool socks.
Posted by Dave Allen (Member # 3102) on July 25, 2009, 11:00 AM:
I'm with Joe, add wool sock's to the list. I prefer Filson's they are a "tad" spendy but well worth the money & great boot sock's in my opinion.
Posted by Az-Hunter (Member # 17) on July 25, 2009, 11:31 AM:
Whew.......after reading all this, I can see Im a real nimrod. About the only thing I make sure and toss in the truck is a roll of ass wipe and a quart of water, which rolls around in the truck bed for a few weeks until it taste so funky I remind myself to refill when I get home.
The upshot is, I have so few necessities that I never have a problem remembering what to take; my rifle,a fistfull of ammo, a stool and a call. I don't have a cell phone, I remain a dinosaur in that respect, I did pick up a good hint in this thread though....I just might start remembering to throw a spare tire in the back of the truck, I think thats a damned good idea!
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on July 25, 2009, 01:35 PM:
I've been good, lately. No raving about the coyote paradise down that a way.
But now, you are blowing your own cover, AZ.
When I head out on an adventure, my poor wife didn't know what state I would be in, nor did I? I had to plan for a lot of (ahem) adversities.
Now, you go bragging about a quart of enriched water rolling around in the bed, as your entire survival kit.
We ain't that stupid, ya know? We know what that means. It means ya step on coyotes getting out of the truck.
Meanwhile, I'm about(?) 500/600 miles west of Tim, and elbow to elbow with civilization. Do you replace U joints every other trip?
Meanwhile, the rest of us can only dream.
Good hunting. LB
Posted by Bofire (Member # 221) on July 26, 2009, 09:35 AM:
Since those hi-lift jacks pull and push they are a great little winch, not just for jacking up your rig. You can do all sorta things with them and a couple cables, which is another good thing to carry, 30' of 3/8 cables with eyelets much lighter and smaller than a chain. The jacks will pull far more than any come along, which I carry two of also.
Carl
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on July 26, 2009, 10:08 AM:
Yeah, good contribution, Bofire.
As far as winches, as such, I have had some interesting experiences where there was not a solid attach point anywhere convenient.
An idea I have mulled is a triangular arrangement made of angle iron that can be buried and pounded in with stout tent pegs, or ideally, long ½" bolts at the corners. I have it in my head, but have not rendered it other than some sort of plow shape that would dig in rather than pull out of desert sand. I'd have to attach the cable to the front and bury the first ten feet so that any give would be horizontal. Anyway, I have the materials laying around and this would be a last resort when digging with a shovel, and lowering tire pressure don't work. I have a coffin hoist that would work well in such an application.
I had a sidewinder winch on my Dodge but it rusted out so badly that it was unsalvageable, and right when I could have used it too.
I kind of like the idea of a trailer hitch mounted winch where you can store it inside and break it out as needed since getting you back to solid road is preferable to winching you ahead into 40 miles of bad road....as Duane Eddy used to say.
Good hunting. LB
Posted by Dave Allen (Member # 3102) on July 26, 2009, 11:12 AM:
Hey Leonard, I went back thru the post's & noticed you have a 1974 Power Wagon is that the type with the black trim & wheel's ??
I remember in the late 70's my uncle bought a new Power Wagon it was orange or red I can't remember & it had the black wheel's & black trim package. Pretty cool looking rig in my opinion & I've alway's wanted one..I guess I'm stuck in the 70's LOL..
Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on July 26, 2009, 12:06 PM:
Leonard,
You might want to look into the disposable cable stakes that the trappers use. A larger, beefed up version in some kind of triangle configuration might be what you want to tie your winch into when there's nothing solid around.
Posted by Jrbhunter (Member # 459) on July 26, 2009, 02:55 PM:
Damnit Kok, that was one of the few original ideas I've ever had! I suggest the "Stingray" style stakes or Burkshire *LIGHT* duties. A couple drowner wires or snare extentions can be used to disperse the anchor points and tie them back to the winch with one lead. It works.
Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on July 26, 2009, 05:56 PM:
Well there you go.......... proof that great minds think alike!!!!!
Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on July 26, 2009, 07:08 PM:
Leonard for a winch anchor a steel plate cut into a triangle with a hole drilled large enough for a piece of rebar to fit through on each corner will work. Plus three rebar stakes with nuts welded on one end. You would have to experiment with different lengths to find the right length for youre type of soil. Proably a 2' to start with.. You can pull them back out of the ground with a vise grip and twisting motion or just park directly over them and lift them out of the ground with the winch...
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on July 26, 2009, 07:46 PM:
Good ideas, but I don't want the bulk of a one piece plate, I want to stack it5 and wrap some tape around it. Rebar is a good idea.
Good hunting. LB
Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on July 26, 2009, 08:02 PM:
Leonard if you don't want the steel plate then two pieces of rebar pounded into the ground makeing a X would also work. And don't forget to use a floor matt across the cable about midway..
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on July 27, 2009, 12:29 PM:
Holy shit, Tim! Your friends are dog pileing you and your buddy 2dogs on Clever Gary's board.
You can further their dithering by quoting me, if you like:
quote:
Byron is a fake, says LB.
Good hunting. LB
Posted by Jrbhunter (Member # 459) on July 27, 2009, 03:02 PM:
Leonard, with cable stakes you wouldn't need a plate of any kind. The beauty of 18" cables is they're easy to store and carry. A dozen could easily fit in the glovebox, weigh 1-2 pounds and cost you under $15. Hammer & Driver in the toolbox and you're set.
If you're hellbent on cross staking with rebar, you should look into the swiveled washers used to tie a pair together. I can't imagine one pair of cross-stakes bringing a truck out, especially in soft plowed ground, so pack plenty. I think with either method you'll need to distribute the load.
PS: By the end of the week I expect you to be arguing that cross-staking with 8" lengths of 1/2" rebar has been pulling your truck out for 30 years. This is generally the evolution of the same debate on trapping forums!
Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on July 27, 2009, 07:44 PM:
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Holy shit, Tim! Your friends are dog pileing you and your buddy 2dogs on Clever Gary's board.
LOL Leonard> Their B.S. dose'nt bother me.
The funny thing about the two nuts over there is Gary has to kill coyotes for GodGorrilla cause he can't hunt or shoot worth a dam. Zilla has'nt killed a coyote in 10 years or better and most of his exsperiance comes from a book. LOL
As for Gary Cleaver i hold him and him only accountable for any B.S. thats slung in my direction. I hear he gives a few talks on electric calls and shotgun tatics,LOL anyway i maybe attending one of his talks in the future.
Posted by TOM64 (Member # 561) on July 27, 2009, 08:09 PM:
I think Otis is the maker of the cable cleaning kit 3toes was talking about.
I slow rolled my 4 wheeler and jammed my Sako 300 WSM barrel into the mud one day. No cleaning rod, only carry the bore snakes, they don't work.
But I found enough bailing wire to run down the $1000 barrel, not a good feeling but it was 45 miles back to the house.
So add some bailing wire to the list.
I'm used to working out of my truck and have just about everything I could need shoved in there somewhere. Keep my hunting stuff in a bag and keep alot ammo in the truck. Hate packing.
Posted by Kelly Jackson (Member # 977) on July 27, 2009, 08:24 PM:
I cut the antenna off my truck once and used a piece to remove a plugged barrel....got to do what you got to do.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on July 27, 2009, 08:34 PM:
That's a good one, Kelly. Never thought of it. LB
edit: let's start a thread where we "out" all those secret screen names on monster just for laughs. Swear to god, I only know higgins and NASA.
[ July 27, 2009, 08:35 PM: Message edited by: Leonard ]
Posted by CrossJ (Member # 884) on July 27, 2009, 08:47 PM:
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So add some bailing wire to the list.
Good catch Tom.
Posted by George Ackley (Member # 898) on July 27, 2009, 10:35 PM:
you got to know me LB just from my spelling and writing skills,lol
Posted by TOM64 (Member # 561) on July 28, 2009, 10:21 AM:
Nevermind I figured it out.
[ July 28, 2009, 10:24 AM: Message edited by: TOM64 ]
Posted by Kelly Jackson (Member # 977) on July 28, 2009, 08:35 PM:
G - couldn't get it sized right for an avitar, but you get the idea.
[ July 28, 2009, 08:38 PM: Message edited by: Kelly Jackson ]
Posted by TOM64 (Member # 561) on July 28, 2009, 09:12 PM:
Now that's funny!
Posted by Locohead (Member # 15) on July 28, 2009, 09:38 PM:
HUH?
Posted by Kelly Jackson (Member # 977) on July 28, 2009, 09:53 PM:
Danny,
PM booted Randy Reeves down to a member only. Check out
http://www.predatormastersforums.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1335593#Post1335593
Kelly
Posted by TOM64 (Member # 561) on July 29, 2009, 05:48 AM:
He's back as a mod now but a revolt is on alot of minds finally!
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on July 29, 2009, 11:20 AM:
Hmm? Interesting and reminiscent of the lynching I endured many years ago.
Well, I have to say that Randy Reeves is a friend and about the last man standing over there at PMS. According to his most recent post, the whole spat involves the banning of yet another member, and about which, he disagreed.
I really don't like the way they run that board. The entire staff has an underlying fear of retribution of straying from the party line. Also ironic, the newer members don't have a clue how fuked up the whole site has become.
Predator Masters: Drama Central.
Randy, seriously; they need you more than you need them and the pathetic part is they don't know it.
Good hunting. LB
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