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Lungbuster
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posted October 23, 2008 03:06 PM
I shot this big female but I screwed up the shot, I wasn't steady enough and my bullet caught her on the shoulder. The entrance and exit hole all blended together.
Sewing holes is new to me. Most of my hunting has always been with a shotgun and the few predators I did kill with a rifle I got lucky and didnt have to sew anything.
What do you think? Is this Fixable? I cleaned it up for the pic, it was alot nastier.
It was shot with a .22-250, 38.5 gr of H380 shooting 50gr V-max's.
I think I will take the 17Rem next time....
Edit: Leonard, If this pic is too graphic, please let me know...
[ October 23, 2008, 03:09 PM: Message edited by: Lungbuster ]
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Tim Behle
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posted October 23, 2008 03:15 PM
If you take a little care with your skinning knife, then sewing that shouldn't be any problem at all.
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Leonard
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posted October 23, 2008 03:46 PM
I don't care about graphic, but next time you want to save fur, do a little thinking about your choice of bullet. A 50 grain VMax is a varmint bullet. (you know, the little chipmonks and prairie dogs, squirrels, etc.) It's not suitable for predators, in my opinion. That fur looks marginal, anyway?
Good hunting. LB
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Kokopelli
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posted October 23, 2008 04:34 PM
Those big holes are usually rips. Once you get the thing skinned & fleshed, you can see how it goes back together. I once had a coyote that took two shots to put down; one in the shoulder & one in the spine. It was a butt ugly hole and I was useing three needles, a little on each one at a time. It all came back together.
Consider this; A low dollar, early coyote is not likely worth the trouble. However........the sewing practice is invaluable later on, should you happen to overkill a high dollar Jan. bobcat.
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Rich
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posted October 24, 2008 04:40 AM
"I don't care about graphic, but next time you want to save fur, do a little thinking about your choice of bullet. A 50 grain VMax is a varmint bullet. (you know, the little chipmonks and prairie dogs, squirrels, etc.) It's not suitable for predators, in my opinion."
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Leonard,
I have posted that advice on various boards so many times that I can't even count em. ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
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MJM
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posted October 24, 2008 09:54 AM
On bullet selection ..... Man ain't that the truth. I admit that my main go to bullet is a 50 gr. V-max in a 223. BIG holes are more the rule than the exception. A switch to 52gr. match bullets is very likely in the near future for me. Bill kills coyotes stone cold dead, more times than not they apear to have been scared to death rather than shot, he use Sierra match bullets. I'm always impressed with their performance. That's admimtting a lot, because I was one of those that believed in using hunting bullets for game and target bullets for paper. You simply can't argue with success like Bill has though, MJM has become a believer.
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Lungbuster
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posted October 24, 2008 04:56 PM
I've always had good luck with the V'max's not exiting. I will shoot some more before I make up my mind to switch. If I wouldnt of botched the shot, there wouldnt of been a hole on this one either...
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Dave Allen
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posted October 24, 2008 06:34 PM
Lungbuster,it look's like life in southern idaho is treating you good.or @ least coyote hunting seems good for you
I admit i'm not @ the skill or experiance level of many guy's here.
I believe that despite all the bull-shit on the internet..varmint bullet's are just that,i admit that i've only shot a few coyote's with varmint bullet's.yet i could see the writing on the wall.
My partner has killed a handfull with the v-max.
He's not pleased either,i was with him for a few of his "messy" coyote kill's.we couldn't see a reason for any further experiment's.
Try those sierra #1365's out of that "two fiddy"
You might be right on the 17 Rem,dunno I haven't called one yet this fall with mine ![[Embarrassed]](redface.gif)
[Edit]to say,that my guess is don't use a v-max in you're 17 Rem ![[Wink]](wink.gif) sorry i just don't get why everyone seem's to insist on the v-max.
Good luck.
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posted October 24, 2008 08:39 PM
Dave,
The 20vmax will work fine in your 17 Rem for Kits, Greys and bobcats.
But if a coyote shows up you are screwed. You will either have to not shoot, or risk loosing half or more of the ones that you do shoot.
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Lungbuster
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posted October 24, 2008 08:57 PM
Thanks Dave, The sierras might get a try here soon.
I shoot 30gr bergers out of my 17 Rem, hopefully they will do well.
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posted October 24, 2008 09:01 PM
I would say just let them get out there a ways to let that thin jacket do its job a little slower, but I dont know Ive never shot one over 200 yrds... It would be easier to say use a better bullet.
Gotta warn ya though bout the .17 Rem it'll do the same thing if hit near the edges at close range even with the Berger 30 grainers, but it does make for little holes hit in the right place.
There is no controled expansion bullets for the .17 Rem. You are the control.
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Dave Allen
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posted October 24, 2008 11:53 PM
Lungbuster,as mentioned i don't have this all figured out ??
Please try those Sierra's.
Let us know how those Berger's work for ya.
I've got 30 grain Nagel's loaded for my 17 Rem
Now if i can just get a coyote to play along with me ?? i'm having a hell of a time so far this fall..if i get lucky i'll report
Tim & Red,thank's for the advice ![[Cool]](cool.gif)
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posted October 26, 2008 10:43 AM
I used to shoot the 55 vmax out of my .22-.250 (big holes)and switched to the 52 BTHP Sierra (little holes).
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