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Rich
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posted July 11, 2008 09:47 PM
I read a post on another board about an old boy down in Kentucky who called 12 coyotes on one stand. Sounds like they all came in at once. I would say that this guy probably set some kind of coyote calling record. Six of those coyotes were either killed or badly wounded, but the tall grass and fast approaching darkness made photo opportunities or recovery of dead coyotes impossible. ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
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TA17Rem
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posted July 11, 2008 10:21 PM
Don't you hate that when that happens.. LOL
They must have pretty tame coyotes or deaf to stick around dureing all that shooting...
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Kokopelli
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posted July 11, 2008 11:01 PM
Uh.......Mazing!!!!
Not saying that it ain't so, but I have to wonder;
(1) How'd he know there were 12 in 'the tall grass'??
(2) Killed or badly wounded?? That's weak.
(3) Who was driving; Jim Beam or Jack Daniels??
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Tim Behle
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posted July 12, 2008 03:42 AM
Kokopelli,
It must have been Brother Beam, As the good Reverend Daniels has been close to my side the last few evenings.
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Leonard
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posted July 12, 2008 07:06 AM
I can't relate, on one level, but Brother Folger's keeps me focused.
Calling in 12 coyotes is highly unusual, in my opinion. I managed to call in nine, once. My son claims there were ten, but definitely not 12. Some places it may be possible? Damned few places, and somehow, Kentucky does not seem a plausible location?
Good hunting. LB
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"killed or badly wounded" sounds like somebody has been plagerizing AP dispatches from the war zone?
[ July 12, 2008, 07:10 AM: Message edited by: Leonard ]
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Rich
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posted July 12, 2008 08:21 AM
I figured that thread to be plain old B.S. just like the author, but I am going to do some checking on coyote population there. I,m fairly certain that the western states have way more coyotes than does kentucky. I know quite a few men who are very good callers, and none have called a "pack" of twelve that came in a very short time like that. It would have to be two families of coyotes hanging out real close together wouldn't it? I once had five come in all at once, while calling down in texas but even THAT was a stroke of luck.
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Kokopelli
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posted July 12, 2008 08:43 AM
Ok,.......Trying to keep an open mind on this;
East of the big river would make sense for coyotes to pack up in numbers if the prey base is deer, although I would think north more than south. Winter yards & such.
Possibly a stand set up on a territorial boundry bringing in two packs of six to one location?? On that line of thought, two packs of four or five being mis-counted 'in the tall grass' as 12 starts to 'splain a lot.
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TA17Rem
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posted July 12, 2008 08:57 AM
I'm not doubting the 12 coyotes called in but the 6 that where shot or wounded part. The south East coyote population is increaseing quit rapidly in the last couple of years due to too much cover and poor calling. I predict that in the next few years the S-E will become a alot like texas with more than enough coyotes but a little tougher to call in...
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Leonard
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posted July 12, 2008 11:21 AM
what you smokin' dude?
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TRnCO
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posted July 12, 2008 01:08 PM
I know a guy that called in 12 on one stand in KS. just last winter, and two teenagers killed 4 of them! That part of KS. isn't known to have high numbers of coyotes!
It's all on film, in case there are any doubters! ![[Wink]](wink.gif)
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J. Piatt
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posted July 12, 2008 02:24 PM
Hey Rich, is this post because the same guy you are callin BS on said he liked another howler over yours? Pictures? he has posted plenty of pictures of dead coyotes to prove he can kill them.......Where are your pictures?
I live in Ohio and have called in 8 at one time killing 3 of them. If it hadn't been for missing twice and my gun only holding 5 shells I might have been able to kill more, because they were confused as to where the shots were coming from and basically froze up in the field. By the time I got reloaded though they had things figured out and fled. I believe Al posted he was hunting with a partner so that makes 2 guns goin off.
Why bring this shit to another forum anyway? not man enough to post you calling BS on him where he frequents?
edited to add: Heres the pic I posted in 2005 here at huntmasters about my eastern triple.
Call BS all ya want on me. Theres proof and I have plenty of video proof I can kill them too.
JD
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Okanagan
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posted July 12, 2008 03:08 PM
Not going to comment on the 12, though that is a phenomenal number to call, and count, etc.
Kokopelli caused me to think a bit, always dangerous. In a LOT of calling in Southern California, the largest group I had come in together was either four or five, and I simply can't remember which for sure. I was sitting below the top of a ten foot high ridge overlooking an open sage flat and could see and count them easily. That many at once only happened one time, near Saugus.
However, in British Columbia I have had five come in several times and seven at least once. Never occured to me to consider the difference in pack size till now. Also in BC I have seen groups of up to seven together several times in the dead of winter, and five together isn't uncommon at all on a dead beef. On the same beef, singles, pairs or maybe a threesome will come at different times from each other and they acted like any other coyote had to be part of their pack if they allowed him to feed at the same time. Those groups would arrive and leave together as a bunch.
This meandering to say that maybe there is something to larger packs in northern areas, or maybe it is some other factor rather than lattitude or cold.
The large groups I saw were mostly in the Okanagan Valley or Kamloops Lake region, with a lot of open sage and scattered pine country, though I watched a group of five together in spruce timber up on the higher plateau country. They crossed a logging road in front of me in snow and sunlight. I stopped at that spot an hour later and was surprised to see one bedded in the timber 50 yards off the road. The trees were thin enough and they didn't seem to pay attention to me so I could ease along and picked them all out. I'm guessing that was February.
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posted July 12, 2008 03:35 PM
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I read a post on another board about an old boy down in Kentucky who called 12 coyotes on one stand.
Rich this ain't nothing this same old boy once said he called 18 coyotes on one stand and told it to more than just me.
The most coyotes I have seen on one stand is 6 and 5 but the norm being 2. JD I could see where 8 is possible and it coming from you I will take your word for it but 18 or 12 is just kinda hard to swallow.
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Rich
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posted July 12, 2008 03:57 PM
"Why bring this shit to another forum anyway? not man enough to post you calling BS on him where he frequents?"
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Nobody scares me sonny, and I will post here if I care to. I have posted photos of dead coyotes also. I couldn't care less if that guy likes another call brand. Calling coyotes is not a science, just basics and a little common sense. If you actually knew me, you would no that I am not a trouble maker. To hide behind your computer and tell me that I ain't MAN enough to say what I feel, shows that you don't know me at all. I know who you are talking about, so why don't you ask HIM what I already told him face to face? Right here in my living room too. No computer to hide behind or anything. I may be old and fat, but I can still kick ass buddy.
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Kokopelli
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posted July 12, 2008 04:25 PM
Okanagan;
Saugus...?!?!? Too much!!! The first time I ever called in anything was a group of five coyotes in San Francisquito Canyon. Didn't get any, but achieved instant expert status (with a lot to learn) in my own mind.
Did you ever shoot with Valley West Archers??
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J. Piatt
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posted July 12, 2008 04:26 PM
LOL...Now ya wanna kick my ass.......Calm down..
I'm not hiding nothing Rich.....You and I have spoke on the phone before...I re-registered here using my name, I go by "canine" usually. If this isn't starting shit then I must be smokin shit with TA17 then ![[Confused]](confused.gif)
The coyotes are out there and this time of year should not surprise people that family units can be called in on a stand. Some may be bigger numbers than others, I don't claim to be a coyote biologist but a successfull caller and one that has personally seen multiples respond to calling I can and will stand by.
I don't know what Al has done to piss you off, I see him speak of your calls highly and often.
JD
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Rich
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posted July 12, 2008 04:36 PM
JD,
No problem young feller. That is one thing that happens when you post under several screen names. I didn't know who the hell you were. I usually post under my real name. Somebody got in to the control panel as me a few years back, which is why Lenbo changed my screen name to Rich. I know who you are now, so it won't be necessary for me to kick your ass. I actually kind of like your trouble making and ugly mugged self.
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posted July 12, 2008 04:42 PM
"I actually kind of like your trouble making and ugly mugged self."
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J. Piatt
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posted July 12, 2008 04:48 PM
Rich, come on now...I'm half your age I could........outrun you anyday
You know I have always liked to rattle ya about latex howlers versus open reeds, I hope we can continue that one
Sorry you took the "man" enough comment personal.
edit: Bopeye, how the hell are ya?
JD
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onecoyote
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posted July 12, 2008 05:11 PM
All I got to say is good old Rich has true grit, God bless ya old buddy.
12 coyotes on one stand has been done before. I heard Murry Burnham say he did it twice.
I also heard Major Boddicker say he called in 13 coyotes on one stand.
I know someone else who called in 12 at night on one stand in Nevada.
12 on one stand in Kentucky is a little hard to believe. That would probably be half the population of coyotes in the whole state.
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Okanagan
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posted July 12, 2008 05:40 PM
"Okanagan;
Saugus...?!?!? Too much!!! The first time I ever called in anything was a group of five coyotes in San Francisquito Canyon. Didn't get any, but achieved instant expert status (with a lot to learn) in my own mind.
Did you ever shoot with Valley West Archers??"
Five coyotes at once is enough rush to blow the cholesterol out of your pipes for a day or two, especially on your first try!
I was there in the 60's, always solo, and never got to know any other archers, or other predator callers for that matter, other than a slight acquaintance with some folks who owned a sporting goods store in the area. I bow hunted mainly so I could call in the no firearm zones. Wow is that country ever built up since my day. For example, I called a bobcat and a coyote right in the middle of what is now Magic Mountain.
San Francisqito Canyon had some great places to hunt. Killed a humongouos rattler there.
On coyote pack size, I'm 99% sure my wife and I saw nine in a bunch on lake ice, but I'm not quite positive enough in my memory to claim it for sure, in central BC.
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posted July 12, 2008 05:48 PM
Mr. Cronk, you couldn't tell it was JD by those scraggly assed coyotes and that glazed over look in his eye... Kick his ass anyway... He's from Ohio.
I was under the impression that Al was a big fan of old ass kickin' Richard Cronk and his calls.
As far as 12 coyotes go... plausible, stranger things have happened but I lean toward onecoyote's view.
Reefer Madness in MN... That's how TA gets his coyotes. Zigging and Zagging and letting them get downwind just as he exhales... The main ingredient in his misting formula is THC. Add a little bongwater to that bottle if ya wanna keep 'em down wind for extended periods...
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Rich
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posted July 12, 2008 06:04 PM
"Rich, come on now...I'm half your age I could........outrun you anyday"
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No doubt about that JD, I can't run at all anymore. I have no problem with you ragging me about latex howlers either. Latex has a pretty short shelf life though, and the life gets shorter when it is introduced to spit.
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Rich
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posted July 12, 2008 06:20 PM
"I know someone else who called in 12 at night on one stand in Nevada."
I bet his name was Danny Badassteeny wasn't it? Burnham, Boddicker, Lenbo, Onecoyote and a few other fellows are easy to believe. Hey, how long WAS that stand Danny?
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onecoyote
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posted July 12, 2008 08:25 PM
It was sure more then my usual 10/12 minute stand, I really don't remember how long, maybe 20 minutes or so?
I was watching and my hunting partner was lighting, another guy was shooting.
The coyotes came in one at a time out of a draw, the guy got three at the most, great stand huh lol.
Leonard knows the guy, his first name was Phil, he was the President of the CSVCA at the time.
Rich, you need to practice spelling my last name lol.
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