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TA17Rem
Hello, I'm the legendary Tim Anderson, Southern Minneesota Know it all
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posted June 04, 2008 05:30 PM
Predator Calling School
Predator Calling School Price
Individual Price $1,000 3 Days & Nights
Children 13 to 16 50% Discount (1 per paying adult)
I see that TT is offering a school for coyote hunters.
Twice the price of Scott H. and half the knowledge..
Here is a link--www.PredatorUniversity.com
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Leonard
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posted June 04, 2008 06:00 PM
I's say it's high time somebody was offering this kind of service as there are many Internet Experts out there, (like Byron) that could use a little practical experience.
Good hunting. LB
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Leonard
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posted June 05, 2008 08:11 AM
Yes, I tried the rabbits, got them all right, first try!
Who is Tony Tebbe, never heard of him? Must be kinda new?
edit: I can't stand it anymore! I have to correct a little spelling error, Tim. Sorry, I'm really not anal about spelling, but ....ya know?
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Cdog911
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posted June 05, 2008 08:43 AM
Me, too. Does that mean we're eligible for pass-fail so we can just move right on to Tony's Master's program? The site says that the program covers the basics, which to me means it's just a bunch of B.S..
Whatcha gonna do your thesis on, Leonard?
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RagnCajn
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posted June 05, 2008 09:40 AM
At a risk of alienation from some here, I am gonna put in my thoughts. I have met Tony on a few occassions and he is a pretty cool guy. He has his friends and foes in the great world of the internet just as anyone does who has put himself in the light and is trying to promote his name and life based on his predator hunting experiences. I personally can not imagine quitting my job and moving to an unknown area, to pursue a personnal ambition of doing something that has never been done. I have to say that takes some major cahonies. His wife and children will have to endure the ups and downs with him. He is walking into a biker bar wearing a three peice suit.
I don't think he expects to have the accomplished predator hunters here to need his services. He is hoping to help those guys that are getting into predator hunting and those that need the instructions and on stand experiences. Maybe those that have never called in a coyote or have only called in 1 or 2 can benefit from some of the things he has to offer. Maybe not. His success or failure in his venture will determine that.
Who was Scott Huber, Cal Taylor, Rich Higgens, Jeff and Todd, Johnny Stewart, Murray Burnham, Borlands, Dillons ETC before they stepped up to the plate and decided to make money from something they and their close friends thought they would be good at. I can bet my last dollar not a one of them expected to make money from one of their detractors or the successfull hunters. They only hoped to make money from those that were in need of what they had to offer. Anything else would just be gravy.
Greenside, I have no idea what that link has to do with this.
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Leonard
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posted June 05, 2008 10:22 AM
Don't worry about alienating anybody here, Randy. If anybody asks, I will tell them that you are a standup guy and deserve credit for supporting a friend. I think these guys are probably just having a little fun? As you know, many of the people you mentioned have had their turn in the barrel, it's kind of a right of passage. How they handle it is noticed and respected. Whoever Tony may be, I'm sure we all wish him to succeed.
Good hunting. LB
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Nahuatl
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posted June 05, 2008 10:25 AM
I wish the guy the best of luck at his new endevour, Randy. We sort of do the same thing, predator hunt tactics, for novices no charge in the AZ and CA predator clubs. It looks like fair value for shaving a couple years off the learning curve.
Did you read the story about Tony falling through the ice and almost drowning? The epiphany gets the guy to sell his house, uproot his wife and kids, move to west Texas (??), to chase his dream. Or at least find a place with no ice.
Higgins gives it away.
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Leonard
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posted June 05, 2008 10:35 AM
....as does Bosinski, for that matter?
edit: and the above pat on the back is unneeded but upon reflection, I have two things to say. One is that occasionally we act like a bunch of sophomores and sometimes it's inappropriate; and second, I am fortunate to have Randy Reeves as a friend. I don't normally edit posts, but we can retract some of the above catty comments, if it will help?
Good hunting. LB
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skoal
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posted June 05, 2008 10:41 AM
I have some of Tonys calls , hand crafted art that should not see the field beautiful and they work well . I dont know him other than dealing with him on his calls and his many posts on PM
seems like a great guy and I wish him success in his endeavors. I agree with Randy its a big leap to uproot yourself and start something all new.
and your right Gary , Higgins gives it away, hes a great ambassador to the sport.Most of the People Ive met readily share info. as it should be.
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Greenside
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posted June 05, 2008 11:03 AM
Hell Randy, more power to him. The link is nothing more than a chuckle at Tonie’s expense. A little spin off of his TT initials. You would have had to be there to understand.
Gary, I more than likely fell into the same canal or one close by, 20 or more years ago while duck hunting. I quit duck hunting but didn’t quit my day job.
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TA17Rem
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posted June 05, 2008 11:10 AM
Most beginners can barely afford a rifle ( H&R single shots) let alone 1000.00 lessons..
Now that there willbe a coyote calling college i suppose we will have pay to hunt next ?????
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Jrbhunter
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posted June 05, 2008 11:16 AM
$1,000 for three days. That's $333.33 per day.
So Huber pumped you full of knowledge for $166.66 a day Tim? He's gonna need a bigger truck.
PS: If you think education is expensive, try ignorance.
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skoal
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posted June 05, 2008 11:17 AM
I already pay to hunt Tim this sport has cost me a small fortune. lol
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TA17Rem
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posted June 05, 2008 11:56 AM
Jason: A lot more canbe learned from someone who hunts coyotes year round than by someone who don't have enough sense to stay off of bad ice...
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posted June 05, 2008 12:32 PM
"PS: If you think education is expensive, try ignorance."
That's why some many of them are broke.
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R.Shaw
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posted June 05, 2008 01:43 PM
Most of the people mentioned sell a product. You can decide to buy a Faux Pro or not. Makes no difference to me. But when you set-up a business which requires leasing of ground to hunt coyotes, then that affects me. I paid a tresspass fee once and enjoyed every minute of it, but I will never do it again.
We saw more swinging lights this past year than the other two combined. With 100 dollar cats and 35 dollar greys, that is understandable. Then throw some university students into the equation and you have lots of competion for ground.
I aint jealous of the man or what he is trying to do. I just dont want to see coyote hunting headed in the same direction as deer hunting. Go to Tx right now and see how much good deer ground you can gather. Unless you are willing to blow the dust off your check book, you arent going to find much.
As far as I am concerned, this P.U. only benefits one person. It hurts everyone else, especially if you are a Texan or a fur hunter.
Randy
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Cdog911
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posted June 05, 2008 01:56 PM
Shaw,
I think that's about as succinct an explanation of what's wrong with some of this stuff as I've ever heard. A few years ago, this guy I work with who guides for deer and leases up all kinds of ground and I got into a heated "discussion" over his value to society. He quickly pointed to the door signs on my truck advertising my taxidermy business and stated that he wasn't the only person making money off wildlife in this town.
Maybe so, I replied, but nothing I do has ever intruded on the rights of anyone else to hunt. Same goes for my writing. Sure, I get paid for it, but no one's losing hunting ground because of it. Fact is, between the writing and the taxidermy, I offer services that augment and enhance the sportsman's experience.
You made a good point. And BTW, I know Tony, too, and he is a good man. Like Shaw, I just hate seeing the sport devolve into this form of commercialism. Just my opinion, FWIW. Then again if there's a market, more power to him.
TA,
I respect Tony's prowess as a predator hunter, but I respect Scott's more. If this whole deal tells me anything, it's that Scott needs to reassess his rates.
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CrossJ
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posted June 05, 2008 03:04 PM
Does this mean we can't refer to Higgins as 'Professor' now?
Well put Shaw!
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posted June 05, 2008 03:14 PM
The last I knew of, Scott Huber don't make his living by teaching people how to call. He likely don't offer his knowledge to just anybody or everybody either. Scott knows his stuff when it comes to coyotes, and that is for certain.
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Leonard
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posted June 05, 2008 03:21 PM
Well, I see the makings of a good thread, if we can omit the personal references? In fact, what Shaw says is exactly what has ALWAYS been my problem with Texas. Of course, I am blessed with a lot of public land on which to hunt, but I sure don't like feeling like a "dude" to hunt down there. A lot of other places, you can knock on doors and some grant access and some don't. In Texas, the tables are turned. Instead of providing a service for the land owner, he wants a fee, like he has trophy whittails or something? I dunno, the whole idea just offends me?
Good hunting. LB
TA, that was a real cheap shot, Amigo.
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DAA
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posted June 05, 2008 03:36 PM
I don't know Mr. Tebbe, but he sure seems like a good man, just from what I see on the internet and the way others who I do know speak of him. So, I wish him nothing but success with his venture.
But, while I sincerely wish him well, I have a hard time seeing how this venture is going to make full time wages for one guy, let alone two guys. Hopefully I'm just wrong.
As far as the whole Texas and pay to hunt thing goes... I'm just glad I've never had to ask permission to hunt in my life, and don't ever intend to start. If I lived somewhere like that, where I literally had to go door to door, begging from strangers, just to hunt, I would not hunt. If those ranchers start charging access fees to hunt coyotes, I could care less, it won't change things for me one bit.
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posted June 05, 2008 04:34 PM
If Tony can make a go of it, good for him. I guess if the same thing was happening in my backyard I might be a little bummed, but from what I hear about Texas, if it wasn't him doing it, somebody else would. Take a look around at all the people who complain about their jobs, where they live, life situations, etc.. that if a guy takes the initiative to make a change, I'll wish them the best of luck.
I wouldn't be surprised if in the near future quality predator hunting will be valued as much as good big game hunting. That being said, I've never paid to hunt private land and hope like hell I never have to. It was only a matter of time before paying for quality predator hunting on private land starts to catch up with the rest of the hunting economy.
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posted June 05, 2008 04:56 PM
Iowa wasn't cuttin the mustard?
I know that no one is forcing me to pay $1,000 to hunt with him, but still, $1,000!? Good luck!
Is there such a thing as a learning curve in Texas? Oh, well.
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posted June 05, 2008 06:30 PM
I don't know TT or anything about him, but I can't say it's a bad idea for some guys. I don't know his personal qualifications, but there is nothing wrong with paying someone to help a little along the way if you think the knowledge gained is worth the price. I have been to a well known trapping guru for trapping instruction and there are a few guys that I would still consider paying to hunt or trap with. A lion hunt with Steve Craig is a prime example. If I had the time I would do it in a heartbeat.
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