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RedRabbit
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posted March 21, 2008 08:19 PM
I been hunting this area of about 8 square miles and pulled out about 6 dogs and noticed it slowed down so then I let off for about 2 seasons and all of a sudden it got really hot again, howlling all over the place. Obviously, they been busy in those 2 seasons, but I had since then bedded the rifle and lapped the barrel adjusted the trigger. I just couldn't wait to give them coyotes a go. I can't say that the 6 more that were taken wouldn't give me a good deal of bragging rights, but it's all about the hunt, right?
But my question is, I took out this male a couple of days ago and he was with a pregnant bitch (at least, we can assume she is this late in the season)... what will happen with the bitch? Will she raise the pups on her own? Or will she find another mate? Will the mate kill the pups? Or help rear the pups? I don't know. Still trying to figure these animals out.
[ March 21, 2008, 08:20 PM: Message edited by: RedRabbit ]
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Randy Roede
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posted March 21, 2008 09:27 PM
Red Rabbit, nice easter name!!!, she will be just fine.
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Jrbhunter
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posted March 21, 2008 11:46 PM
"Randy Roede's RedRabbit" would make one helluva name for a beagle bloodline.
Rabbit, is that 17 killing them any quicker these days? Last year I recall you were dumping a handful of rounds into the ribcage at close range... and tracking coyotes. Tim Anderson is still waking up screaming at night: ![[Eek!]](eek.gif)
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Randy Roede
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posted March 22, 2008 08:30 AM
Jason that would be Randy Ray Roede's Red Rabbit, sounds like something a trooper might make a guy repeat to see if your drunk or not!!!!
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posted March 22, 2008 09:28 AM
I'll have a few highspeed females out of Vicky this summer... perhaps Randy Ray Roede's Rigerous Red Rabbit will be the next best-in-show? Too damn fast to win field trials:
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RedRabbit
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posted March 22, 2008 12:27 PM
jrb,
I since been using moly preped 30 gr bergers loaded at medium. Aside from all the rhetoric I have not lost a coyote. The load change was something I planned on doing anyhoo.
I even hit a nice size adult male in front of the hip @ about 250 yrds running. It passed all the way through to the other side comming to rest just under the hide of the oposite hind quarter he yelped for about 15 seconds and died. I recovered that bullet what was left of it, anyway and the rifle is still in my book "amazing" Ive hit a couple in the spine and its lights out small hole no exit...
The flat trajectory, speed, low recoil, low noise and plenty of thump without blowing big holes is something to be appreciated by those who use the 17 Rem.
I also hit a magnum prairie dog at 600 yrds in wyo with and nocked him off his mound he laid there kicking but then crawled back to his hole. I suspect the bullets wernt expanding at that range.
Anyway trying to get an idea what I can expect of this coyote population Im sure I had to upset the apple basket taking out 3 adults and 3 pups...
BTW thats a good looking pooch...
[ March 22, 2008, 12:34 PM: Message edited by: RedRabbit ]
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posted March 25, 2008 04:23 PM
good habitat will always get filled back in with coyotes much quicker than most think. If you have the needed items those coyotes will move up the real estate ladder pretty quickly. She will find a new guy or a nurse mate from last years litter to help out.
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RedRabbit
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posted March 25, 2008 04:58 PM
I was wondering if these coyotes were immigrants since they look a little different, more black tip hair on the back than those Ive taken before.
I have noticed alot more birds i.e., pheasants, chuckers, sharptails.. I hope to keep this going but I dont want to shoot all the coyotes up either.
I heard the big male coyote howl down In one of the canyons after a long lone high pitch howl from my hot dog the day after I took his bitch, but I just couldnt keep my mouth shut and tried an invitaion and got flubbed up by moisture.... I should of just left it one howl.
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posted March 25, 2008 04:59 PM
In theory... ![[Wink]](wink.gif)
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RedRabbit
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posted March 26, 2008 09:37 PM
Thats what I keep telling myself...
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Randy Roede
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posted March 27, 2008 07:44 AM
Red Rabbit, if this is denning country whoever should be set up in it now. The migration at this time of year may not be as much as other times of the year. Possible a denning pair may still be looking but most should have a hole cleaned out and getting ready. Existing population and amount of suitable country will dictate the migration.
Pups will be in some holes anytime now with the first week in April the norm but some will be a week or so earlier and some will be later. I have seen an occasinal lactating female in late June.
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RedRabbit
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posted March 31, 2008 10:49 PM
Randy,
I found a freshly cleaned out hole as early as January 1st to be exact. I do most of my hunting on foot all over this section of land. I've stumbled onto these dens sometimes I think I gravitate to them as much as I don't want to. When I find one I avoid it, so I don't spread my scent around I want to be there in the vicinity but not that obvious.
I once set up on a soil erosion berm in the middle of this CRP field there was high sage brush that ran its length I sat there for a whole hour doing my routine then I looked to my right and wondered what those mounds were some twenty yrds down the berm, low and behold they were dens fresh with tracks and strategically placed scat. Well Im sure they got an ear full at that range, if they were in there. I later during the breeding season set up on the edge of a canyon some 300 hundred yrds from that location and got them to come in I mean it was text book, but failed to anchor either one of the pair, since my excitment had unhinged my judgment of distance on the thick legged, long nose, block headed male that looked like he just got back from the dog groomer.I know hes still in that area I've heard him and his howl is low pitched, but he has also learned me very well and may I add he's a smart "son of a bitch" DAMMM!! I keep reliving that ordeal...
I thought I was putting a dent in the population, but after a few reads on this site Im not so sure. I know a coyote can cover alot of ground in an area, but I see tracks all over the place. I suspect their teritories are close to one another.
Heres something about two weeks ago the rancher down the road told me of a pair of coyotes that were howling and carrying on in the neighbors pasture, so I figured it would be a safe bet to set up near the area, since I knew of a den near that area, well the first hill that I climbed over revealed the deer I thought got froze out some 40 head or so all bunched up in this ravine adjacent to other rolling hills and ravines the deer spooked but only went some 100 yrds and began grazing again. I wanted to take this approach, as to let me get an overview of the area.
Once I got comfortable I began with rabbit distress even though the coyote vocalizations would be what I'd normally try. I began light with a couple of series then grabbed the magnum mouse pulled it from its hand operated bellow and tried some interesting sounds I been experimenting with by using it like a mouth blown call mimicked like a bird in distress. I caught a flash of an animal running down one of the hills, but before my eyes could get focused on it it had went into the ravine one hill over above the deer comming hard it never showed up I know I had a good over all view from my perch and coud see if anything would transpire at the top of the hill in front of me, or below me, but nothing happened, so after 30 or, so minutes I got up hiked the ridge out and didnt see anything, nothing at all. I know from my half focused view two jumps of this is all I saw it was bigger than a coyote and tan the deer were at this time about 200 yrds from me maybe further. The next day I talked to the rancher his neighbor told him he saw a mountain lion come out of that area and cross between their pastures that evening. I found it unusal for the deer to be in that spot anyway and how reluctant they were to move after I spooked them they seem very suspisious, but not of my presence.
This may turn into cat removal......
[ March 31, 2008, 10:52 PM: Message edited by: RedRabbit ]
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