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Krustyklimber
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Icon 1 posted January 27, 2008 09:53 PM      Profile for Krustyklimber   Email Krustyklimber         Edit/Delete Post 
Me and Red got run over...

How much snowy ground can a coyote cover in 15 seconds?

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Icon 1 posted January 28, 2008 04:01 AM      Profile for TA17Rem   Email TA17Rem         Edit/Delete Post 
The coyotes here can run 30-40 mph. you'll have to do the math..

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Rich
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Icon 1 posted January 28, 2008 05:04 AM      Profile for Rich   Author's Homepage   Email Rich         Edit/Delete Post 
"How much snowy ground can a coyote cover in 15 seconds?"
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Probably 150 yards or so if the snow ain't too deep. [Wink]

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Tim Behle
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Icon 1 posted January 28, 2008 09:55 AM      Profile for Tim Behle   Author's Homepage   Email Tim Behle         Edit/Delete Post 
He can make it all of the way to the point of impact.

Try a shotgun in tight cover.

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Icon 1 posted January 28, 2008 10:55 AM      Profile for Leonard   Author's Homepage   Email Leonard         Edit/Delete Post 
I have never been run over by a coyote, a gray fox, yes. Kinda quickens the pulse, donut?

I have had a couple coyotes put on the brakes so fast they literally fell over backwards. Ever see a coyote switch directions in midair, crossing your scent? It's like; "Feet, don't fail me now!"

So, when do we get the narative, K?

Good hunting. LB

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Krustyklimber
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Icon 1 posted January 28, 2008 03:43 PM      Profile for Krustyklimber   Email Krustyklimber         Edit/Delete Post 
My question stems from my confusion over how close we must have walked up on the coyote.

TA,

I already did the math. We're talking like 220 yards.

Rich,

They were walking on a half inch of powder, on top of the crust, we were breaking through it.

Tim,

The Yakima firing range is as far from "thick" as it gets, mostly low sagebrush, and views for miles.

Leonard,

Maybe "run over" isn't the right term, perhaps "strafed" is a better one?

The coyote never made it into shotgun range, even if we had carried it. h
He came in at near top speed, turning 90° when he hit my wind and/or spotted me, and never slowed down.

The Narrative:

We hiked a short ways up and over the low ridge, south of the freeway, setting up above a brushy draw between us and the next higher ridge.

Red took the high position, next to a single high bush sage, I moved down and right, into the wind and set up some 80 yards away in a clump of the same high brush.

The ridge we were on bent a bit, to our left, forming a knoll, and blocking a small portion of the view.

I started the cassette player, adjusted the volume, and almost immediately Red radios there's a coyote coming from the left "fast!"

No sooner do I start to look, to MY left out on the far ridge, and another more exited radio message comes through "he's down in the draw"... behind me.

Sure enough, I spin around there he is, running away.

I raised my rifle, held the 200 yard circle (on my new Nikon Pro-Staff BDC) on his ribs, and just as he slowed a bit Red's rifle fired.

Now it was "off to the races", the coyote flat and hauling ass, weaved through the brush, and into a open area.
I held the third ring a coyote length ahead of him and let 'er rip, but my lead on him was just a bit too far, the impact of the bullet in front of him made him jump and kick, and for a second I thought I hit him.
Red took on more shot too, just before he escaped into a big patch of high sage, some 900 yards away, where he proceeded to bitch up a storm at us.

He didn't shut up, until we ended the stand, and went after him.
And then when we reached the top, he bitched at us from the draw on the far side of the next ridge.

In the last month I have called and shot at more coyotes than I did in the first five years.

Hopefully my shooting skills will progress faster than my calling skills did?

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Icon 1 posted January 28, 2008 04:13 PM      Profile for Locohead   Email Locohead         Edit/Delete Post 
Krusty,

Great story! It really is exciting isn't it? I would however, call that scenario as fairly common. Getting ran over is literally ran over. Its never happened to me but I know its happened to others. I shot a coyote once when my scope was on 9 power. When I pulled the trigger all I remember seeing was fur when I pulled the trigger. That one might of ran me over had I not shot it first. He stopped about 8 yards away!

Anyway, Congrats!

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Nice story! I wish we had more yotes willing to show in daylight!
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Robert Tabby
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Icon 1 posted January 28, 2008 06:41 PM      Profile for Robert Tabby   Author's Homepage   Email Robert Tabby         Edit/Delete Post 
"The Yakima firing range is as far from "thick" as it gets, mostly low sagebrush, and views for miles."
Crusty,
thick doesn't mean tall. thick can be 2' tall. once you sit down in that sage, its thick. looks to me like a shot gun would be pretty well suited, unless you are very elevated on every stand, but even then you would be pretty well off with a shot gun.
i believe in more places then not a shot gun will be a good choice for over 75% of called animals.

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Krustyklimber
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Icon 1 posted January 28, 2008 07:43 PM      Profile for Krustyklimber   Email Krustyklimber         Edit/Delete Post 
Danny,

Thanks. It's fun being in a story worth telling.

PA,

This is far from "usual" for me, I'm on a roll (and I'm pushing it hard, to keep it rolling).

Robert,

You're right, "thick" is relative, and there was enough cover for the coyote to stay fairly well out of sight(s), and for my brother to hide well enough that the coyote streaked by without noticing him.

And you are also right, in that the YTC is a vast area, with a widely varied terrain and ecology.

Though, to me, it's still "big country".

This looks like one of the 25% cases, Red said he didn't think it was in shotgun range yet, when it veered away.
We had this discussion, after I reminded him "I thought he should have brought his shotgun". [Smile]

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Icon 1 posted February 01, 2008 04:28 AM      Profile for 6mm284           Edit/Delete Post 
If you are doing it right, you will from time to time get run over by coyote coming to the call. I have it happen about twice a year to get close enought to touch.Hardest dang coyotes to get killed there are.
HOw fast? once at night had a coyote get in front of the car going downhill on the highway. We were at 55mph and he was still ahead of our bumper. He went off the shoulder of the road and rolled head over heels up the ditch bank and bounced off the fence.

[ February 01, 2008, 04:30 AM: Message edited by: 6mm284 ]

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Icon 1 posted February 11, 2008 03:21 PM      Profile for Cdog911   Author's Homepage   Email Cdog911         Edit/Delete Post 
The best answer to this question is often "somewhat faster than what you planned for." LOL

Yesterday, I made one stand down in a riverbend area. Had to ride the ATV in nearly 3/4 mile from the truck and just couldn't bring myself to load up with "accessories", so I left Leroy at the truck and left the Mossy 12 in the rack on the quad. Nothing but me, the Savage and the Bandit. Hunker walked my way for two hundred yards south down the backside of a river levee that terminated somewhere along a timber where I knew the pack to sleep during the day. At about a hundred yards from the trees, I slipped up to the top and hid the M-1 in a clump of grass. Back down the backside, I made my way to the trees and slipped into a small pushover looking north, and northeast. The timber was to my east and south. The levee ran straight north from just behind me and the wind was from the NNE in my face. Got the rifle rested in the sticks with plenty of adjustment room looking northeast and hit the "go" button on "Jackin' around".

Literally, not five seconds later, and totally to my surprise, a coyote comes shooting out of the trees like I'd hit the detonator on a cannon and he's in full stride, head down, tail straight out behind him and gettin' 'r done now. I vividly recall thinking to myself, "Oh,.. shit!!!" My predetermined adjustment room off the sticks was long since gone as I swung with the gun trying to find the coyote in my scope. He's maybe 35 yards away and out front and I'm thinking how nice it would be to have brought that 12 gauge. By now, I'm a whoopin' and a woofin' and trying anything to at least get him slowed down, and he actually did that little bouncy step thing for about three steps as he stole a glance my way. I guess he didn't like what he saw because he found yet another gear and went to hugging the ground. Worm burnin', if you will.

I think I fired a round at him. Either that, or that bugger actually broke the sound barrier because there was a God awful ka-boom followed by an eruption of ice and frozen mud right under his ass, at which time, he then found yet another gear in what Ronnie Robison so eloquently once called his "primer driven transmission".

Up and over the levee he went, and up I came running like a fat man for the closest point on the levee to where I sat, thirty yards or so to my immediate left. Plodding along in heavy mud-caked boots, I pulled down both legs on my Harris as I ran and, once upon the top of the levee, went prone and was shocked at how far that coyote had gotten in the same time span. That SOB was nearly 400 yards out running right past and beyond my parked ATV. I put the third plex line just above him and pressed the trigger. Hit about eight feet in front of him and just to his right. Horseshoes and hand grenades.

Never ceases to amaze me how fast a coyote can run when properly inspired.

[ February 11, 2008, 03:24 PM: Message edited by: Cdog911 ]

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Krusty,

I got 2-3 weeks of idle time, so if you find your way up north and wanna go out to a few different spots. Drop me a line.

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Krustyklimber
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Icon 1 posted March 27, 2008 12:54 PM      Profile for Krustyklimber   Email Krustyklimber         Edit/Delete Post 
Brad,

If I can make the time, I'd like to at least come up and learn some new areas, so I'll let you know.

Thanks,

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drop me a PM,,, if and when..........
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