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Author Topic: Calling coyotes TA17Rem Hello, I'm the legendary Tim Anderson, Southern Minneesota Know it all Member # 794 posted July 15, 2007 11:33 AM                    [ March 28, 2010, 07:18 PM: Message edited by: TA17Rem ] -------------------- What if I told you, the left wing and right wing both belong to same bird! Posts: 5615 | From: S.D. | Registered: Jan 2006  |  IP: Logged Leonard HMFIC Member # 2 posted July 15, 2007 11:57 AM                       Where to start? Some of the ground you hunt is so open, you could be observed from farther away than your sound travels? I hope your set up and stand discipline is okay? On the other hand, maybe your coyotes are just pushed so hard that they are only active at night? Total mystery. But coyotes come in and check out the location all the time, that's not rare at all. Good hunting. LB -------------------- EL BEE Knows It All and Done It All. Don't piss me off! Posts: 32363 | From: Upland, CA | Registered: Jan 2003  |  IP: Logged Beastmaster Knows what it's all about Member # 210 posted July 15, 2007 12:03 PM                    Hello Seventeen. I have one too! Remington BDL. You be right when you say a screaming causes interest long after such is abandoned by the gun. I did a desert screaming . . . waited for fifteen minutes . . . then motored to about a half mile away and made another set-up. While I was waiting for the desert to calm down I glassed the site of the previous set-up. Saw a coyote sniffing around my hide-out.Sumbitch even lifted a leg on it. I have used the same principle to call lion. It is illegal to shoot lion at night in Arizona. I would go out at night and make a number of screaming set-ups, each lasting ten minutes or so. When daylight came I would retrace my route and do a legal screaming. Some of the time I wopuld Bingo. Also have used this technique when trapping, screaming for a few minutes when each set was finished. I feel doing so cause me to skin subtantially more fur. [ July 15, 2007, 12:17 PM: Message edited by: Leonard ] Posts: 32 | From: Lake Havasu City, AZ | Registered: Jun 2003  |  IP: Logged Leonard HMFIC Member # 2 posted July 15, 2007 12:12 PM                       Gerry, click on the little icon with the pencil along the top of your post and you will see what that photo looks like when you paste the code into the message as I did with your post above. That's all there is to it. Good hunting. LB edit: scroll all the way to the bottom. [ July 15, 2007, 12:13 PM: Message edited by: Leonard ] -------------------- EL BEE Knows It All and Done It All. Don't piss me off! Posts: 32363 | From: Upland, CA | Registered: Jan 2003  |  IP: Logged csmithers unknown comic posted July 15, 2007 01:39 PM              It would be VERY interesting to know whether the coyote interprets the smell emanating from the spot it is sniffing was the source of the screams or the cause of the screams. It smells your scent and concludes? Killer or killee? I would buy that answer for a dollar. I might be not be able to use the info for anything other than an answer to a question but still....... The coyote smells your keester and then piddles on it. Good, bad or indifferent? [ July 15, 2007, 01:39 PM: Message edited by: smithers ] IP: Logged TA17Rem Hello, I'm the legendary Tim Anderson, Southern Minneesota Know it all Member # 794 posted July 15, 2007 02:42 PM                    [ March 28, 2010, 07:18 PM: Message edited by: TA17Rem ] -------------------- What if I told you, the left wing and right wing both belong to same bird! Posts: 5615 | From: S.D. | Registered: Jan 2006  |  IP: Logged Krustyklimber prefers the bunny hugger pronunciation: ky o tee Member # 72 posted July 15, 2007 02:45 PM                    Smithers, Maybe he pees on it to tell his pals "it's cool, I checked it out"? TA, If I remember right Higgins did some experimenting, and had coyotes come in as soon as 20-40 mins after a stand. Calling the same spot the next day, on the idea that "you didn't see a coyote" seems foolhardy (to me). Especially given the consideration he may have checked out what really was "where you were", before you got back to make your second attempt. Maybe I'm not understanding you, and you don't mean the exact same spot. But the same section, unit, farm, whatever, from a new stand? I think right after they checked out your buttprint, they go right back to being a coyote. P.S. Lance wrote an article for T&PC, Destroying the Myths, or something to the effect. It was right along these lines. Maybe he'll be able to quote himself better than I can. Krusty [ July 15, 2007, 02:49 PM: Message edited by: Krustyklimber ] -------------------- Think about how stupid the average person is, then realize that half of them are stupider than that! Posts: 1912 | From: Deep in the Blue Ridge Mountains of Virginia | Registered: Jan 2003  |  IP: Logged TA17Rem Hello, I'm the legendary Tim Anderson, Southern Minneesota Know it all Member # 794 posted July 15, 2007 03:08 PM                    [ March 28, 2010, 07:19 PM: Message edited by: TA17Rem ] -------------------- What if I told you, the left wing and right wing both belong to same bird! Posts: 5615 | From: S.D. | Registered: Jan 2006  |  IP: Logged Rob Knows what it's all about Member # 75 posted July 15, 2007 03:35 PM                    Forget the trail cam..Set some traps -------------------- "Where did all these #$%^&* Indians come from?" Gen. George Armstrong Custer Posts: 224 | From: Clancy Montana | Registered: Feb 2003  |  IP: Logged canine Knows what it's all about Member # 687 posted July 15, 2007 04:05 PM                    Tim, sounds to me your just a day early... No, seriously though, I have seen that here before. Make a stand cuttin through a property, to have a coyote sittin in the exact spot I made that first stand at, on the way back out I can't see them reasoning and putting the two and two together though. Edit: Gerry, I used to call the areas I had traps at for fox when I was a kid. I remember one night callin the oposite end of a open field , halfway through the stand a gray fox got caught in one of my sets, that was pretty neat. JD [ July 15, 2007, 04:09 PM: Message edited by: canine ] -------------------- Hunting The East "back to Basic's" Part 1 Posts: 162 | From: ohio | Registered: Jul 2005  |  IP: Logged Beastmaster Knows what it's all about Member # 210 posted July 15, 2007 04:10 PM                    I do not pretend to be able to read a predators mind. Past experience causes me to speculate that a predator needs to know all possible about events that take place within his or her "house". That need to know can cause a predator to investigate circumstances that might cause him to be a more eficient hunter. The predator might imagine the screams might have signaled the end to a fellow creature, maybe killed or crippled the victim enough to cause such some to be an easy prey. Why don't they come at the run? Caution, I think. Waiting until they hear the sounds of departure, maybe a truck motor, might cause them to come at the sneak. I could write a book (but will not here) about the times I have finished a screaming, sat silent for an extra fifteen minutes, and surprised a sneaker. Posts: 32 | From: Lake Havasu City, AZ | Registered: Jun 2003  |  IP: Logged Beastmaster Knows what it's all about Member # 210 posted July 15, 2007 04:15 PM                    Canine . . . You posted as I was typing the above. I once set a trap for bobcat and placed a Squeaker at the set. A cowboy friend and I walked down the trail a couple of hundred yards and did a screaming over a bear track. We walked back past the set after about thirty minutes of calling and were pleased to find an XXL Tom bobcat within the trap. Posts: 32 | From: Lake Havasu City, AZ | Registered: Jun 2003  |  IP: Logged TA17Rem Hello, I'm the legendary Tim Anderson, Southern Minneesota Know it all Member # 794 posted July 15, 2007 04:43 PM                    [ March 28, 2010, 07:19 PM: Message edited by: TA17Rem ] -------------------- What if I told you, the left wing and right wing both belong to same bird! Posts: 5615 | From: S.D. | Registered: Jan 2006  |  IP: Logged Randy Roede "It's Roede, like in Yotie Member # 1273 posted July 15, 2007 04:55 PM                    TA- it sounds like your coyotes know your there. If your calling to YOY in the winter with limited calling pressure a coyote should be showing up. Something is not adding up. Are you trying to pull them out in the open from the cover or are you tying to kill them in the cover? Your quote," Lance who? ", must mean your instruction with Wiley must have really stayed with you!!!!!! -------------------- The only person dumber than the village idiot is the person who argues with him! Posts: 669 | From: Pierre SD | Registered: Mar 2007  |  IP: Logged TA17Rem Hello, I'm the legendary Tim Anderson, Southern Minneesota Know it all Member # 794 posted July 15, 2007 05:14 PM                    [ March 28, 2010, 07:20 PM: Message edited by: TA17Rem ] -------------------- What if I told you, the left wing and right wing both belong to same bird! Posts: 5615 | From: S.D. | Registered: Jan 2006  |  IP: Logged Krustyklimber prefers the bunny hugger pronunciation: ky o tee Member # 72 posted July 15, 2007 05:32 PM                    TA, Send me those traps, I no longer enjoy calling like I used to and would rather trap, so I'd put them to good use. Krusty -------------------- Think about how stupid the average person is, then realize that half of them are stupider than that! Posts: 1912 | From: Deep in the Blue Ridge Mountains of Virginia | Registered: Jan 2003  |  IP: Logged TA17Rem Hello, I'm the legendary Tim Anderson, Southern Minneesota Know it all Member # 794 posted July 15, 2007 05:40 PM                    [ March 28, 2010, 07:21 PM: Message edited by: TA17Rem ] -------------------- What if I told you, the left wing and right wing both belong to same bird! Posts: 5615 | From: S.D. | Registered: Jan 2006  |  IP: Logged Leonard HMFIC Member # 2 posted July 15, 2007 05:50 PM                       Tim, do you have one that you could spare that might handle my Tomcat problem? That sob is pissing on my doors, he needs a trip out of town. -------------------- EL BEE Knows It All and Done It All. Don't piss me off! Posts: 32363 | From: Upland, CA | Registered: Jan 2003  |  IP: Logged TA17Rem Hello, I'm the legendary Tim Anderson, Southern Minneesota Know it all Member # 794 posted July 15, 2007 06:14 PM                    Sure leonard. A 110 or 220 coni-bear should do the job. A quick and painless death. -------------------- What if I told you, the left wing and right wing both belong to same bird! Posts: 5615 | From: S.D. | Registered: Jan 2006  |  IP: Logged Leonard HMFIC Member # 2 posted July 15, 2007 07:05 PM                       Oh wait, I was thinking of something else. I might catch my own cat, that would not be good. I thought they were cage traps. Good hunting. LB -------------------- EL BEE Knows It All and Done It All. Don't piss me off! Posts: 32363 | From: Upland, CA | Registered: Jan 2003  |  IP: Logged TA17Rem Hello, I'm the legendary Tim Anderson, Southern Minneesota Know it all Member # 794 posted July 15, 2007 08:34 PM                    [ March 28, 2010, 07:21 PM: Message edited by: TA17Rem ] -------------------- What if I told you, the left wing and right wing both belong to same bird! Posts: 5615 | From: S.D. | Registered: Jan 2006  |  IP: Logged Krustyklimber prefers the bunny hugger pronunciation: ky o tee Member # 72 posted July 15, 2007 11:13 PM                    12 volt battery, aluminum foil on the door, positive lead... aluminum foil on the porch, negative lead... he won't be back. It works on cars, with two separate pieces of foil to step on, but you get added bonus effect of the urine stream as the "connector". Krusty P.S. I'd loan you a cage trap, but shipping back and forth would exceed the value of the trap. Home Depot has folding raccoon cages, for around $40. Many rental outfits have cages too. [ July 15, 2007, 11:18 PM: Message edited by: Krustyklimber ] -------------------- Think about how stupid the average person is, then realize that half of them are stupider than that! Posts: 1912 | From: Deep in the Blue Ridge Mountains of Virginia | Registered: Jan 2003  |  IP: Logged Greenside seems to know what he is talking about Member # 10 posted July 16, 2007 05:50 AM                   "I also called some areas where there was no sign of coyotes being around but the area looked good and i knew there where some in the general area, give or take a mile or two" HUH? Are your coyote vocal? Are they at the present time? Tim what's your home county. would like to do a fly over with terra server and see how the county lays. [ July 16, 2007, 10:56 AM: Message edited by: Greenside ] Posts: 719 | From: IA | Registered: Jan 2003  |  IP: Logged JoeF resides "back east" Member # 228 posted July 16, 2007 06:53 AM                    TA, I'm not familiar with the area you're calling but if you're talking about ag ground like I sometimes call in IL. walking up to 1/2 mile into a 1 mile section is not a good idea. You've crawled right in to their lap and they know all about you. Try parking at the edge and walking in absolutely no more than you have to a few times and see what happens. Let them come to you. Especially if you're talking a specific patch of cover surrounded by ag ground or pasture. Posts: 658 | From: Midwest | Registered: Aug 2003  |  IP: Logged csmithers unknown comic posted July 16, 2007 07:59 AM              Maybe he pees on it to tell his pals "it's cool, I checked it out"? Krusty, it's possible. The other thing that would be interesting to know is if they vocalized when they reached the spot. Warning barks, etc. In Gerry's case it seems not but maybe in others? IP: Logged

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