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Posted by JeremyKS (Member # 736) on June 28, 2007, 03:21 PM:
I was surfing and came across this. I know it was not designed for this but I got a good laugh when I thought of somebody putting some of that good "coyote in a stick" on their arm pits. lol
http://www.predatorsniperstyx.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=6
Posted by Rich Higgins (Member # 3) on June 28, 2007, 07:35 PM:
Jeremy, a little shot of mist under each arm works as well.
Posted by Norm (Member # 240) on June 28, 2007, 08:15 PM:
it is the same as the mist, except in a solid state... try getting that to drift with the wind
Posted by JeremyKS (Member # 736) on June 28, 2007, 08:36 PM:
Rich,
You probably have the after shave model don't you?
Posted by Bofire (Member # 221) on June 28, 2007, 09:02 PM:
Well, that depends, do you mean scented before you put it on?
I got this "olfactory image of Rich Higgins, 90 degrees, in a car, after 5 stands of 'misting'"
gald I already ate
Carl
[ July 02, 2007, 08:13 PM: Message edited by: Bofire ]
Posted by Rich Higgins (Member # 3) on June 28, 2007, 09:59 PM:
Jeremy, I use Hoppes 9 for aftershave.
Bofire, I have no defense.
Posted by Jrbhunter (Member # 459) on June 28, 2007, 10:18 PM:
Why is buck-n-rut the only one that comes in a clear gel?
Posted by Barndog (Member # 255) on June 29, 2007, 08:05 AM:
Heard a guy talk about working in a female deer urine collection job. He was employee of the month when he figured out they only wanted urine in the bottles.
How many of you are running around the woods with John Doe's scent?
How many of us take all the scent precautions and then fill up at the pump right before the stand? Anyone do any research on the Shell unleaded scent misting?
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on June 29, 2007, 08:56 AM:
That smell is common as dirt, Amigo. Chevron, too.
Good hunting. LB
(I thought you were from NV?)
Posted by Barndog (Member # 255) on June 29, 2007, 11:17 AM:
I was from NV.
Got tired of living in the desert all summer away from the wife and kids. Too many long summers chasing jack rabbits, rattlesnakes and surveying millions of acres, no radio, no TV, no phone, no people, no automobiles and too many canned dinners. I was tired of coming home on the weekends only to mow the lawn and repair what damage was done to the house. Missed to many birthdays, baseball games and school plays to make it worth living out there anymore. I've seen in detail more than 2.5 million acres of some the most remote country in the US. Last year I was working the summit of White Rock and pulled a tendon off the ankle, hamburgerd two ligaments and chipped the bone. Hiked back 4 miles to the truck, 60 miles of some of the roughest two track road and 90 more miles to the nearest town with a hospitol. After that I decided to call it quits.
Found a job in Idaho were I could be home every night and be just like everyone else. I've even put on 15 pounds.
To be right honest. I spent so much time out there alone I've nearly lost the desire to hunt. Only went out three times after coyotes. Mainly because I was laid up for three months with ankle surgery. I've nearly had my fill of elk, antelope, mule deer, big horn sheep, chuckers and sage grouse to last the next 10 years. I tried spring Turkeys and all I could think about was getting home spending time with the kids and taking the wife to dinner and a movie.
I'm thinking about buying a boat and let the kids learn to water ski, and put a little more time into practical shooting events.
I imagine that come Sept. you'll find me under a bush smelling like Phillips 66.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on June 30, 2007, 07:04 AM:
Barndog, does the name Leland Cress mean anything to you?
Posted by Barndog (Member # 255) on June 30, 2007, 09:43 AM:
I've heard the name. Something to do with geology. Other than that I don't know him personally. If this isn't the same Mr. Cress then I don't know him.
Since you brought up names, Bill Tillman? if you run accross any of his writings highly recommended reading. Most of his stuff is out of print. Interlibrary loans is about the only way to read some of that earlier print.
Anyway, gotta run. Headed to Jasper National Park (Canada) for a little recreation time, see you guys in about 10 days.
Posted by Cdog911 (Member # 7) on June 30, 2007, 02:13 PM:
I field tested some of that Coyote on a Stick. Maybe I was using it wrong. I'd set up, call and call, and when I saw one headed downwind, I'd remove the top from the Stick and hurl it like a grenade toward where the coyote was fixin' to be. The sound of it bouncing across the ground scared every one of them off and I couldn't get a single decent shot. I'm going to "Stick" with misting.
Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on June 30, 2007, 05:49 PM:
I just wear my hunting clothes when i do my skinning. The coyotes seem to like it and the smell is'nt offensive to other people.
Posted by Cdog911 (Member # 7) on July 01, 2007, 12:28 PM:
That sure is nice of those other people not to say anything.
Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on July 01, 2007, 01:50 PM:
LOL Cdog; I don't know why but the Az coyotes have a pretty strong oder to them compared to the northern coyotes..not very noticeable.
Posted by Norm (Member # 240) on July 02, 2007, 01:19 PM:
that is the advantage of hunting in the desert over the north country... natural camo.
Here, when we kill a coyote, we find the closest power line pole or mesquite tree; skin the coyote, and use some water (we always carry water here) to clean up, and off on our merry way...
Mr. Behle, killed him a nice deer in his natural camo here a couple years back.
Works real well as long as you sit still.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on July 02, 2007, 01:41 PM:
Barndog, that's him. I went to school with him. Last time I saw him was in remote northern Nevada, above Tuscarora, he was doing some survey work and I (of course) was hunting coyotes. Last I heard, his wife and kids were killed , I think in a car accident; from a mutual friend.
Good hunting. LB
Posted by browning204 (Member # 821) on July 03, 2007, 05:49 AM:
That is HORRIBLE!!!!
Posted by DEL GUE (Member # 1526) on July 31, 2007, 07:53 PM:
I wear nonscented when I hunt.
Posted by keekee (Member # 465) on August 01, 2007, 08:12 AM:
This is what you make Rich put on after 5 stands of misting! LOL
Dont he look allot younger in this picture?
Brent
[ August 01, 2007, 08:13 AM: Message edited by: keekee ]
Posted by RoyalOaksTaxidermy (Member # 1532) on August 01, 2007, 11:17 AM:
WEstern Coyotes stink... Least all the ones I get to skin do.. I cant imagine wanting to spell like that on purpose LOL.. And fox scent OMG that smell can be horrid.. I swear it used to take several showers and a few days to get the reek of fox off me..
Now I have a special homemade soap that removes odors.. THAT has been a Godsend..
I suppose a cover scent helps but Ive never seen the need for it yet..
How many of you actually use cover scent when hunting? And if you do when your hunting fox do you use skunk scent?
How about misting? Does anyone here use scent "lures" ?
[ August 01, 2007, 11:32 AM: Message edited by: RoyalOaksTaxidermy ]
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on August 01, 2007, 12:47 PM:
CoyoteHuntress, being new; You are forgiven. I say that with good humor.
insert smilie here:
Cover scent? Misting and lures? Tell me more?
Good hunting. LB
[ August 01, 2007, 12:47 PM: Message edited by: Leonard ]
Posted by RoyalOaksTaxidermy (Member # 1532) on August 01, 2007, 01:52 PM:
You know... cover scent.. Shampoo and body soap to help mask your stinky human smell..
Mists- sorta like that Coyote in a Stick only in a mister bottle.. Like spraying your decoy or the area with something tasty or another coyote...To make them coyotes think you are something you arent.
And lures.. well guess that would fall under yummy smells.. Like bloody rabbit or something simular.. Or in the case of red fox- skunk.. Anything to trick the coyote into thinking something is there that really isnt.
Predator Extreme magazine had an article about using "mist" .. Basically spraying some urine or bunny smell, or in the case of the article a load of all sorts of scents, bobcat, rabbit, coyote etc all in one, to help keep Mr Coyote around long enough to get a shot. Like when they circle downwind you use the mist to basically give them scents so they will stick around trying to figure out all the different smells. Sort of like sensory overload.
It follows along the theory of you can trick their sight, and fool their ears, but their noses KNOW.. So misting helps to trick their noses.
Anyway it was an interesting article
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on August 01, 2007, 02:20 PM:
Very good! But, perhaps you don't realize where the whole theory originated? But you got here, nonetheless.
I'm just pulling your leg; this is Magic Mist Central. Do a little reading on the back pages.
Good hunting. LB
by the way, all those writers and proponents are right here, at your disposal.
[ August 01, 2007, 02:23 PM: Message edited by: Leonard ]
Posted by Cdog911 (Member # 7) on August 01, 2007, 03:32 PM:
Hey Keekee, is that a picture of that Higgins fella that is so good at calling those urbanized coyotes and just wrote that piece on misting? I'm pretty sure I recognize him. He looks to be putting on some of that special camo he helped develop for hunting his city coyotes - Mossy Oak Landfill. Hahahaha
Posted by RoyalOaksTaxidermy (Member # 1532) on August 01, 2007, 03:42 PM:
Alot of the writers are here? How cool is that
Be like rubbing elbows with celebs
I have been going thru some of the other posts. Alot are old and had a heck of a time getting them to show up.. If I clicked on the button it just showed no new posts.. Oh well Ill figure it out soon enough
Its a pretty neat forum...Lots of interesting reading
Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on August 01, 2007, 03:58 PM:
Coyotehuntbabe; Find the window that says 'Show topics from....' and drop it down to the bottom. Lotts'a reading.
You have to be careful around here. Some of these guys have a real strange sense of humor.
Posted by Rich Higgins (Member # 3) on August 01, 2007, 04:34 PM:
Look at the windshield in that pic. I asked KeeKee to let me video him so he invites me to Ohio and Kentucky during a hurricane. That's redneck raingear that I'm putting on a $4000 camera. It's sold in most stores
under the name of Hefty if anyone is in the market. Three holes cut in the bag makes a pretty good rain poncho.
I do look younger in that pic which was taken 4-5 years ago. Hangin' on this board with you guys has turned my hair grey.
quote:
Mossy Oak Landfill. Hahahaha
Great idea, Lance. They will make the perfect gift for the man that has everything.... and the
man that has nothing. I know what I'm sending you for Christmas.
Posted by smithers (Member # 646) on August 01, 2007, 05:37 PM:
Mr. Janitor, that is amusing. Tell me More?
The guy that wrote the article about misting is here?
There's also this guy that writes about raccoon hunting in the daylight and he says he kills a few coyotes then and now. That's laughable! He writes like 9,000 articles a year or something.
Is he here?
In the same issue with Al Pacino (see KeeKee's pick. I swear that's Al in a plastic bag) spraying piss all over himself there is this guy writing about hunting coyotes in the East. Spectacular article! I wish he would come here.
Then that guy that uses dogs (sometimes) in his coyote hunting has an article each month in PX. Clyde Taylor or some such.
There were some callmakers here that I have heard of that make Spectacular Howlers and distress calls. Legends and all. The Janitor himself has a lengthy resume as well or so I hear.
Too bad that last summer the Janitor ran off all the Heavy Hitters. The forum was loaded with celebs back then. Now there are just a bunch of know-it-alls and me.
[ August 01, 2007, 05:39 PM: Message edited by: smithers ]
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on August 01, 2007, 05:56 PM:
You have really got to be kidding, smithers? I don't run anybody off, and the only "heavy hitter"
that is missing is Byron and it's by his choice, he's certainly not banned and I didn't run him off.
Anyway, every one of those you mention is on this board and contributes regularly.
Good hunting. LB
Posted by Tim Behle (Member # 209) on August 01, 2007, 09:43 PM:
Yeah, That danged Cdog writes so many stories for cheap, that I can't even get a note of rejection out of the TPC any more.
I'm actually having to consider sending my stuff to Predator Extreme
Posted by 3 Toes (Member # 1327) on August 02, 2007, 04:20 AM:
Yep, this place is getting ridiculous. You can't throw a rock around here without hitting someone that had a hunting article out last week. And if they didn't write it, they were featured in one. Good grief!
Behle, you can come on over to PX anytime.
[ August 02, 2007, 04:22 AM: Message edited by: 3 Toes ]
Posted by Cdog911 (Member # 7) on August 02, 2007, 04:31 AM:
Heck, Tim, I've been so busy with taxidermy and prettying up the wife's house that I haven't had much time at all for six months to even use the new laptop and camera I bought just for writing. But, if you're wanting a rejection letter, just tell me when you need it and I'll see what I can do for you.
Posted by smithers (Member # 646) on August 02, 2007, 07:35 AM:
Yeah, I know they are here.
It should be the: Sure Writes Alot Board
I can write a few articles about confrontation in the woods. More than a couple guys have threatened bodily harm when I "ruined" their deer hunt by "blowing those Goddamn whistles."
and "scaring everything within 3/4's of a mile."
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on August 02, 2007, 08:39 AM:
Sort of a roving ambassador, ain't cha?
Posted by scruffy (Member # 725) on August 02, 2007, 10:15 AM:
Speaking of predator publications, are there going to be any "predator hunting" or predator hunter" or whatever that magazine was that I bought the issues of last winter, the one that had Lance's coon calling articles in it???
Or did it pass away?
later,
scruffy
Posted by Tim Behle (Member # 209) on August 02, 2007, 10:34 AM:
Lance,
The part that chaps my a$$ about Paul's silence, isn't that he may not like what I've written. But he told me that I had to send in 5 pictures with each article.
Writing about hunting or trapping is easy, but getting a good, high quality picture isn't. If he doesn't want to buy what I send him, it sure would be nice if he would let me know so that I can use those pictures with something else. My submissions are not limited by the number of stories that I can write, but by the number of pictures that I have available to send with the article.
You guys who write regular columns have it easy, all you have to provide is a single mug shot!
Posted by 3 Toes (Member # 1327) on August 02, 2007, 10:55 AM:
The picture deal sucks Tim, I have to furnish a few for my column and of course my old camera wasn't good enough. So $1500 later I have a camera thats "good enough". All I can hope is that I can sell a few also to justify the cost of my new toy. They said they would buy some so I am holding them to it.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on August 02, 2007, 02:03 PM:
A bunch of crap. They want fine detail, 10 megapixtel and print on grainy pulp paper? What do they pay for a used photo, $100 bucks? But then, they do use old archive stuff of the good old days? If that's good enough, why the requirement for $1500 equipment so that they can sell a ton of magazines while paying you a hundred bucks? I guess it's because people are waiting in line to get their articles published and they have no shortage of volunteers?
It would be nice if they were responsive, and told you what was needed to bring your article up to standards? Maybe you just don't have the name recognition of a Homan or a Higgins?
Good hunting. LB
edit: or a Taylor
[ August 02, 2007, 02:04 PM: Message edited by: Leonard ]
Posted by Lonny (Member # 19) on August 02, 2007, 03:22 PM:
Cal, that pet coyote should really pay off if the magazines want pictures. Just think of the "action" photos you could get with your golden goose.
We used to have a guy living close by who was a outdoor/wildlife photographer. He is now very well known and writes in numerous magazines mostly about big game, but covers preds, birds, guns, etc... When he was starting out in the industry, he did anything to make a buck and it was mostly selling photos to hunting and fishing rags.
I went with him a few times on photo shoots and was surprised to find out that most everything was set up or staged to some extent. He would pull fully feathered turkeys out of the freezer and take photos when the light and the background was to his liking. He would haul a buck deer to all points of the compass to take photos with different backgrounds and different people posing with the trophy. Same thing with a bobcat or whatever critter he needed pictures of. He would have people wear backpacks with loads of what looked to be elk quarters and antlers.
He never even bothered to try taking pics of wild animals on public land. He went to National Parks and private reserves for his animal photos. Which isn't surprising considering the time it would take to get a picture of say a Mt. lion in the wild.
[ August 02, 2007, 03:24 PM: Message edited by: Lonny ]
Posted by Cdog911 (Member # 7) on August 02, 2007, 07:16 PM:
Tim,
They're looking for some submissions now. If you have something on the hard drive that you think would be a sell, send it to me, I'll give it a once over to tweak it for you if you want and we can go from there. I've personally never been held to the picture issue, but do try to furnish them when I can.
scruffy,
Predator Hunting is two issues a year. November and December. Far from dead. In fact, each of those two issues s e l l more copies than any other predator calling magazine in circulation today. I, too, question why they don't make it a subscription-based read, but I don't get any answers when I ask either. The time is ripe for it.
Staged pictures are pretty common. I don't have the type of equipment to get action shots, so mine are all after-the-fact hero shots for the most part. Back in the day, I did some stuff for Buckmasters Whitetail Magazine under Russ Thornberry and they preferred photo support in slide format since the acuity of the pictures was so much better. I don't know if that's an option for them now or not. Everything is pretty much done digitally. Text is submitted electronically, cut and pasted to editing, then imported into a program called Quark which does their layout and paginating. Pics are imported the same way after color adjutments, etc.
Hell, I'm not that old and my first several years writing, I sent thing in that were hand typed on a Brother typewriter. I have a 75-year old antique typewriter on the shelf in my office and I keep thinking that one of these days, I'm going to type an article on it and send it in via snail mail just to see what happens. LOL
And if you're only making a hundred bucks a piece, you're submitting to the wrong rag. LOL
- Lance Homman
[ August 02, 2007, 07:17 PM: Message edited by: Cdog911 ]
Posted by 3 Toes (Member # 1327) on August 03, 2007, 08:18 AM:
Lonny, Do you think I should leave the green collar on, or take it off?
Posted by Rich Higgins (Member # 3) on August 03, 2007, 08:38 AM:
Cal, leave it on, mess with the editors brain. Besides if you take it off some road shooter will blow her away in front of the camera.
Posted by Lonny (Member # 19) on August 03, 2007, 08:55 AM:
Heck yeah, leave it on. Then tell the readers that coyotes have become so smart they now masquerade as domestic dogs to fool the hunter.
Like Rich said, just think about the letters Ralph will get when the readers spot the collar.
Like they say, no such thing as bad publicity.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on August 03, 2007, 09:12 AM:
Yeah, as Lance admitted, all those "action" photos are staged anyway? Somebody told me that he uses his stuffed mounts for his action shots....which explains a lot.
Good hunting. LB
edit: one suggestion, Cal. You might consider using one of those cool camo collars, instead of green? How about a trendy coyote ruff collar? Dang, I should charge money for this stuff? Huntmaster's Consultants, Inc.
edit: I can just picture Lance "sneeking up" on a shoulder mount! bwahaha
[ August 03, 2007, 09:20 AM: Message edited by: Leonard ]
Posted by smithers (Member # 646) on August 04, 2007, 05:32 PM:
Cdog, did you intentionally bold one of the M's in your last name so that someone? would notice that they spelled your name wrong?
What is a Byron?
3Toes, I think it'd be better if ya threw a shock collar on her and then photoraphed her. The vibrant green is a nice touch.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on August 04, 2007, 05:36 PM:
Yes, subtle, but I noticed.
Posted by Cdog911 (Member # 7) on August 04, 2007, 08:28 PM:
Not that I'm picky about how anyone spells my name (or anyone else's for that matter) but I was once told by a preceptor in my EMS day, when it comes to calling a patient by their name (versus "sweetie, buddy or 'you') that "your name is the first thing you're given when you're born, the only thing that is truly uniquely yours while you're alive, and the only thing you take with you when you die, so it's best to use it correctly." I'm just saying...
I knew Rich (Huggins) for about four years before he finally began pronouncing it right. He still mispronounces it, but I think it's just to yank my chain.
Leonard,
Have you noticed that all my coyote action shots are of coyotes peering out of thick foliage so all you can see is the head? I call them thru hedges all the time. LOL If that was the case, I've cornered the taxidermy market on mounting dead looking coyotes. On the other hand, if you're right, I consider it a compliment to my work that I've been able to fool everyone in the country but you up to now.
Cal,
Take off the collar and hold them in place with a lasso-in' rope, then tell them that shooting them with a gun got too easy and you've done gone to roping them instead.
[ August 04, 2007, 08:30 PM: Message edited by: Cdog911 ]
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on August 04, 2007, 08:54 PM:
Oh, quit whining, I was just yankin' ur chain, ya big crybaby! If Higgins can get away with it, why can't I?
edit: Then why, pray tell, don't you use you uniquely given name on Huntmasters? Higgins does.
edit: I still think the idea of Cdog sneaking up on a shoulder mount sticking out of the bushes is hilarious!
[ August 04, 2007, 09:00 PM: Message edited by: Leonard ]
Posted by Cdog911 (Member # 7) on August 05, 2007, 07:09 AM:
Because your damned board won't let me. That and that God forsaken flood protection!!!
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on August 05, 2007, 08:32 AM:
Well, that is a problem. You can try the above, on for size, and maybe consider this suggestion below, as well?
hair lipped miscreant ADMINISTRATOR
[ August 05, 2007, 08:34 AM: Message edited by: Leonard ]
Posted by smithers (Member # 646) on August 05, 2007, 06:28 PM:
Would I!? Would I!? Hair Lip! Hair lip!
How is your name pronounced? Ha-min? Omen? Ho-man? Kuh-dog ninety-one one?
Do coyotes kick scratch much at this time of year?
I was out for about 5 hrs. today wandering/ scouting. I was walking a recently (within the last 2 yrs.) bulldozed path. I saw what looked to possibly be some kick scratches about 50 yards apart along the path. One of them had an oldish looking sizable scat near it. The ground is as hard as granite for lack of rain. No recent tracks to properly ID it. Nice!
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on August 05, 2007, 06:36 PM:
That's a very old joke, smithers.
Wood eye!
Good hunting. LB
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