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Posted by furhvstr (Member # 1389) on June 13, 2007, 07:11 PM:

New to the board, hope this is not taboo.
Whats the most coyotes you have ever called in one outing?
From sun up till 2:00 pm I once called 21 and took only 6. Multiples by yourself can sometimes be tough.
Last year one day I called 14 by noon and took 8.
24 in a weekend once at a Nv. contest.

[ June 13, 2007, 07:12 PM: Message edited by: furhvstr ]

Posted by Krustyklimber (Member # 72) on June 13, 2007, 07:15 PM:

Not only is it not taboo, it used to be part of belonging here. [Smile]

Krusty

P.S. The most I ever called in a day was two (a pair), and we never found the one that got shot at.

[ June 13, 2007, 07:18 PM: Message edited by: Krustyklimber ]

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on June 13, 2007, 11:18 PM:

It's hard to get a true picture when you are counting animals seen. That's why I scratch my head in the contests where they want to know how many you saw and then how many you killed and figure out a percentage.

I have no use for that. Sometimes a steady one or two per hour is a lot better than being overrun by a pack and flinging lead all over the place. Plenty of times I have seen fifty animals in a night, but things happen, and sometimes they don't happen.

I really don't care about how many animals I have called, I just care about how many of them I kill.

Now when you say 24 animals in a weekend, I'd say that's quite a few, for Nevada. I don't think I ever got more than 22 a couple times, but anything in the high teens is a good weekend. Of course, with the travel involved from southern California, we can't hunt northern Nevada all weekend and make it back to check in. Actual hunting time is usually no more than 30 hours, mostly less. All depends on how far up we get. Lovelock is generally a nine hour drive from here.

So, I would have to break it down into segments. I have killed twelve coyotes in a day a few times and sventeen or eighteen on a long winter night, but it's hard to put it together, back to back. Sometimes they are running good all night and quiet during the day, and sometimes it's reversed? Also,that would be under idea conditions, high pressure, new moon, during your best hunting months. Other times, I might see six and kill every one. But when they are running real good, multiples, you just cannot handle them the same. Sometimes it can be spotty, nothing before midnight and then you kill ten coyotes before daylight. I like to be ready to hunt exactly when it stops snowing, it's like a school bus picking up kids in the morning, they seem to be waiting for ya. Yeah, that's the best there is.

Good hunting. LB

Posted by furhvstr (Member # 1389) on June 14, 2007, 05:45 AM:

LB I get what your'e saying i just don't think it's a tough question. You call and see ten coyotes, count to ten, fingers and toes if you have to and then say, "I called in ten"
If it's a night run and you get eyes but are unsure of what it is then you can't count it as a coyote.
I guess my question should have been "how many coyotes have you called in in a single daytime hunt". Daytime is the most common time for most guys. Myself, I only shoot coyote at night one time each year.
The Nv. hunt I spoke about above was run out of Pioche Nv. by the rod and gun club. We called 24 coyote but only took 8.
Just read what I wrote and didn't intend to be condesending. Also don't think I know how to spell "condesending"

Posted by Rich (Member # 112) on June 14, 2007, 06:11 AM:

My own best calling day was three coyotes called and all three killed on first stand. Called and killed two more on second stand. Hunted the rest of the day and managed to call and kill one more. Six coyotes called and six coyotes killed.

Posted by onecoyote (Member # 129) on June 14, 2007, 07:19 AM:

Furhvstr, I hope you made a good showing for the California boys in that Pioche contest, you should have placed with 8 [Confused]

They have a few contest out of there every year so I hear.

Since I've been here in NM ( 3 years )the best I've done during the day was 8 for 8 one day. [Smile]

[ June 14, 2007, 12:31 PM: Message edited by: onecoyote ]

Posted by Rich Higgins (Member # 3) on June 14, 2007, 07:43 AM:

33 years ago I killed 7 coyotes in one day with a longbow.
21 years ago I called in 12-16 coyotes, all together, at the same time, on one stand. I killed two of them, my partner got one. Single shot Contenders + adrenaline through the roof = fumbles.

Posted by albert (Member # 98) on June 14, 2007, 08:52 AM:

Most seen in one day around thirty. Most seen on one stand I believe was 15 animals were in group of two to four. Furthest ones where probably 3/4 mile away. Quit calling when my partner ran out of ammo. He only took three rounds.

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on June 14, 2007, 09:10 AM:

Apparently there is something called the FOG OF WAR, Mercer? Entire weekend, going without sleep, hunting a contest, I just have no good reason or the ability to count the number of coyotes I see-sometimes. Sometimes, I just can't remember? Remembering ten is different than remembering forty or so, and that wouldn't be counting cattle eyes or bedded deer, that would be predators, not all of which might be coyotes.

There has been many times I'm not even sure how many we have in the truck, much less how many we might have seen yesterday, during the day? It has to be a rough estimate.

Look at that statement by Higgins. Well! Was it 12 or was it 16? My son and I "called" and then killed six coyotes out of, either nine total, according to me, or ten total, according to my son. On one stand.

I had a man call me a liar over that statement, several years ago, on a public forum. He said it just wasn't in a coyote's nature for that many to be in a group, single file, as they were. Sort of fits with the title of this thread; First Liar.

I know that we hear some pretty wild claims on the Internet, but some of them could be true.

Good hunting. LB

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Posted by furhvstr (Member # 1389) on June 14, 2007, 09:53 AM:

Some things seem unbeleivable to some folks. You should see some of the faces at the fur sales when I drag in five dozen or more cats that I harvested with firearms. I am sure the guys that don't know me figure I'm full of s***.
A dozen or more dogs on one stand is a rare and special thing. I hope someday it happens to me. It would be fun. I can recall 6 on one stand once.
LB I understand on extended hunts its nearly impossible to count all the varmint nor is it important. I was mostly talking about single day daytime coyotes CALLED IN and I've gotten some good answers. Didn't realize some have called in so many on one stand that they could'nt count them all. Sounds like fun.

Posted by JeremyKS (Member # 736) on June 14, 2007, 11:44 AM:

Best day I have experienced was last year in the Midwest contest where we shot 18 coyotes on day 1. Which I think most people still don't believe. The best stand of the day was when my partner killed 4 for 4. Most coyotes seen on 1 stand several years ago was 7 and we shot 0 lol. Multiple coyotes are lots of fun due to the adrenaline but also trying to figure out how you are going to kill all of them before they get away.

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Posted by Jrbhunter (Member # 459) on June 14, 2007, 12:48 PM:

On our best day we called 8 and killed 6. The next best record would be a three way tie with five coyote days. One of which contained 2 wounded/lost coyotes.

We've called as many as 10-12-14 in a day (and night) of hunting but never killed more than half a dozen in any given 24 hours.

Posted by Rich Higgins (Member # 3) on June 14, 2007, 12:48 PM:

quote:
Didn't realize some have called in so many on one stand that they could'nt count them all. Sounds like fun.

My BinL and I drove into the desert past a feedlot. The lot's deadpile was located in the dunes on the other side of the fence. As we passed the dunes I could see a fresh carcass and a coyote next to it arched up with his tail tucked, head down and mouth open so I knew there was another coyote in there close. We drove maybe two hundred yards past, hid the truck behind mesquite and sneaked into the wind up to the edge of the dunes. We expected a couple of coyotes to come trotting over the rise when we started to call so we didn't even set up, we just knelt down in the sand and I made a quick series on a Burnham rubberband coaxer and immediately coyotes came running over the entire length of the dune, 20 to 30 yards away. I readily admit that there was maybe just a little fear mixed in with the adrenaline. I'm sure there were 12 coyotes, my BinL says 16. Maybe I had big eyes and he had small ones. Regardless, it was more than we were prepared for. Hopper had taken in a herd of cows at the lot that had respiratory problems and a large number died and were dragged out into the dunes. Attracted a hell of an aggregation for a couple of months.
edit, I shot the 7 with the bow at the town dump outside San Filipe, Mexico. Danny knows where it is. I went after rats with judos and rubber blunts but ran into as many coyotes as rats. Had two broadheads in the quiver and kept touching up the edges after every shot.

[ June 14, 2007, 12:53 PM: Message edited by: Rich Higgins ]

Posted by Edge (Member # 426) on June 14, 2007, 01:24 PM:

**33 years ago I killed 7 coyotes in one day with a longbow.**

Thats impressive,period.I have called and killed 3(lifetime)with the longbow.No longer have custody of my left thumb,sure miss shooting trad equipment.

Edge

Posted by Rich (Member # 112) on June 14, 2007, 03:00 PM:

"No longer have custody of my left thumb,sure miss shooting trad equipment."
------------------------------------
Edge,
You must have been using a thumb release? Ouch!!

Posted by Edge (Member # 426) on June 14, 2007, 03:16 PM:

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Posted by Edge (Member # 426) on June 14, 2007, 03:19 PM:

Well,thats what I get for trying to add a pic.....

Edge

Posted by Randy Roede (Member # 1273) on June 14, 2007, 03:57 PM:

Higgins that is an amazing feat,the 7 with long bow.

Anybody ever pulled off the 2 for 1 shot on coyotes?

Posted by Randy Roede (Member # 1273) on June 14, 2007, 04:20 PM:

Don't mean to hijack this another way but, what's the best run you have had without missing a called in coyote. One shot one kill.

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on June 14, 2007, 04:47 PM:

the only time I kept track, it was pretty easy; killed twelve, didn't miss any. But, I don't remember if I killed one or ten before that, and whether I got one or ten after that? Or, if I missed three in a row? (but I didn't)

I know a guy who never misses! But, he won't take a shot unless they are stock still inside of fifty yards. Therefore, he can drive ya nutts! I count all those perfect shots that he declines, within 100 yards as MISSES! He will let a coyote walk out of the brush, pause, walk some more, pause, walk/pause/walk/pause until he walks into brush downwind and out of sight. I don't like hunting with that guy! But, he never misses.

Risk a shot, once in a while, screw the precentages!

Good hunting. LB

Posted by Rich Higgins (Member # 3) on June 14, 2007, 05:37 PM:

Randy, I've taken two with a .338 Win Mag and 200 gr Nosler BTs. Less than one hundred yards lying prone in the creosote. Barked them to a stop, shot him through the chest and her through the shoulders. Early morning and I remember the white mist, not red, that sprayed up around them.

Posted by Randy Roede (Member # 1273) on June 14, 2007, 08:10 PM:

Leonard, yea I remember a few 12-15 runs but I have to sit down and recall , we used to make some long runs on sleepin reds back in Iowa in the fur $ days.

Boy I know if I do alot of shotgun shooting and then back to my rifle the first coyote has a good chance of being missed high and left.

Rich H, sure you had enough gun!!!!WOW!!

I got my first this spring on a four pack, took an adult and the rest exited out about 300 yards. After about 15 minutes I got em back in and two stopped over the carcass,at about 50 yards, one with his rear end toward me, and the other broadside in front of him, it went through high on the rear leg of the first and in the guts of the second both had to be shot again but the wounds would have been terminal, but i quess not a true two for one.That was with 223 55 SP. Had a few others line up but that 52 A max in the 250 just won't get there. Interesting thing about that four pack was they were all males, very unusual for my country.

I know the gunner before me got a couple two for one with the shotgun during mating season out of the plane, hooked up, died happy!!!!LOL

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on June 14, 2007, 08:49 PM:

That's it! I want to go the same way!

Posted by Rich Higgins (Member # 3) on June 14, 2007, 08:51 PM:

quote:
I know the gunner before me got a couple two for one with the shotgun during mating season out of the plane, hooked up, died happy!!!!LOL

LOL During a contest hunt last winter one of our club members was standup calling in heavy cover and called in two that came running in on opposite sides of a wash. They crisscrossed in the wash 20 yards out and he dropped them both with one load of #4 buck.
Randy, that 338 was a Ruger stainless/black synthetic topped with a Leuplod VariXIII 3.5X10. I had been using single shots for years and the bolt gun seemed a little foreign to me so I began using it for all of my shooting. Jackrabbits, prairie dogs, coyotes, squirrels and deer.I used it exclusively for one year and got pretty good with it. It was a great squirrel gun. The squirrels would stretch out on a 3 or 4 inch limb and hide from us. I'd find a spot or mark on the limb even with it's head and shoot through the limb. Didn't ruin any meat at all. [Smile]

100 rounds in a prairie dog town was usually enough for me.

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on June 14, 2007, 10:26 PM:

Yeah, I handled that rifle and when I heard that you sold it, I was a little disappointed that I didn't get a chance at it. Thanks buddy!

I know one other guy that killed two with one shot. Steve Sundeen, former California State Champion did it with a 6MM Remington, but that was a long personal quest. Why, I couldn't say?

Good hunting. LB

edit: congratulations, you just made "GLOBAL"

[ June 14, 2007, 10:57 PM: Message edited by: Leonard ]

Posted by onecoyote (Member # 129) on June 15, 2007, 07:13 AM:

Yeah Higgins, I only hunted a few times around San Felipe. I liked that dirt road south past Puertecitos down to Bahia San Luis Gonzaga. That use to be the road from hell, but the coyote hunting could be awesome at times, Gonzaga bay was also a beautiful place.
When you get to good old southern California next month, ask my old hunting partner Granville Crow about some of our weekend hunts in Mexico.
If I can dig up about $700 for gas, I may even be there myself. Be nice to see you and Leonard again. [Smile]

Posted by Rich Higgins (Member # 3) on June 15, 2007, 07:43 AM:

Leonard, what is a "GLOBAL" and who made it?

Danny, we have a heck of a weekend planned. ATA convention is Fri and Sat. July 20 and 21. Les Johnson is going to be guest speaker both days. Arizona State Calling Championship will be held on Sat. Les will be staying at the house with Tyler and me and we will drive over to Riverside Sat nite. Come up with $350 for gas. Stay at our place, judge the contest, ride to Ca. with us and judge that contest with us as well. We will drive back Sun nite. Heck of a weekend.

Posted by onecoyote (Member # 129) on June 15, 2007, 09:26 AM:

Thanks for the offer Rich, wish I could do that but I can't. If I go, I need to go see friends in Apple Valley and I have not seen my brother for two years, that one is a must.

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on June 15, 2007, 09:47 AM:

That's the ultimate, Dude. Congratulations! It don't get any better. Les Johnson only wishes he was "Global". Even Danny ain't Global.

Posted by Rich Higgins (Member # 3) on June 15, 2007, 10:23 AM:

I'm really confused now. Who is Global and what does it mean?

edit; OK I see it. Must have to do with the number of posts?

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Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on June 15, 2007, 10:42 AM:

You got it....finally. Now delete your questions; makes you look stupid! [Smile]

Posted by UTcaller (Member # 8) on June 15, 2007, 01:08 PM:

The most coyotes I've called in at one stand was in Nevada a few years back.Total of 16 coyotes.and yes I know it sounds like B.S.But none the less it is true.We setup on a hillside with an ocean of sage brush in front of us,with a large alfalfa pivot off to the right of us about 800-1000 yards out.I really can't even remember if we just used distress calls or mixed it with howls,but anyway about 5 minutes or so into the stand I see movement in the pivot.I start seeing animals coming out of the sage brush onto the hay pivot(single file)I thought they were either deer or antelope,so I throw my glasses up and can see they're coyotes.Coming toward us not running just walking.I started counting them until the last one (16).They came all the way across the pivot and just slowly melted back into the higher sage brush and I lost them.A few minutes later 4 coytes popped up at about 200 yrds and we were able to get 3 of them.But that definitley had my ol' heart pounding for a minute.lol

As far as how many the most we've called in an outing,I really don't keep a accurate count but in Nevada it is usually 20+ in two or three days of calling.But in Utah some areas you're lucky to call 1 or 2 coyotes all year.Go Figure lol

Good Hunting Chad

Posted by Steve Craig (Member # 12) on June 16, 2007, 10:09 AM:

3 years ago i called in 20 coyotes, 6 grey fox, and 2 bobcats from sunup to sundown.
One of the boards members from here was with me to see it, as well as my son.
I wont tell on them, how many they missed! hehe

Posted by Rich Higgins (Member # 3) on June 16, 2007, 10:15 AM:

Three or four years ago in August, Jay Nistetter, Tyler and I called in 19 coyotes by 11:00 when it got too hot for us to enjoy the sunshine any longer.
Edit; I don't know how many of them would have been shootable if we had been shooting them. Certainly not all of them.

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Posted by Randy Roede (Member # 1273) on June 16, 2007, 11:12 AM:

Being the intelligent person I am I have come to a conclusion, there are more coyotes in Arizona that SD.Pretty quick ain't I!!

Leonard, Rich, anyone what do they estimate your population to be. Per sq.mi.

Here it is a shade under 1,with mange etc. now maybe down to 1/2.

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on June 16, 2007, 01:56 PM:

In some of the places I have hunted the population is unbelievable, so why publicize? No, really, it is in McNeal, AZ.

Good hunting. LB

Posted by sparkyibewlocal440 (Member # 397) on June 16, 2007, 01:58 PM:

Randy,
Last season,I lost count after 43 consecutive one shot kills.Could easily been 50 or more.Put it this way,I have 100 cases for my calling rifle,so I know exactly how many times I empty a piece of brass.I loaded them twice and had only 1 left over at the end of the season.Killed 167 Predators.Throw in 8 of those for shooting at paper.
Give me a steady rest,and I'm very deadly....Not worth a damn at anything on the run 'tho.

Posted by onecoyote (Member # 129) on June 16, 2007, 02:49 PM:

Leonard, where are you finding these guys? Sounds to me like a bunch of old CSVCA members. The most killingst bunch of bad guys I ever knew. [Big Grin]

Posted by Rich Higgins (Member # 3) on June 16, 2007, 04:45 PM:

Leonard, Rich, anyone what do they estimate your population to be. Per sq.mi.

Randy, because of the 13 year drought, densities vary widely across and within the state. Some areas are less than .5 and many areas with more than 4. In some of the latter areas they will be concentrated tighter than the average.

Posted by Randy Roede (Member # 1273) on June 16, 2007, 05:54 PM:

440 very impressive, like you a running coyote has a far better chance a 50-100 yards than does one standing at 200-250.

Rich H yes I guess with that long of a drought and limited water sources a kink may happen in the equation.

Leonard I know your a coyote killin SOB hangin in the weeds. LOL

I realize I am on the S.W. United States coyote callin party line!! Just happy to be here!!

Higgins you thought anymore about the statewide countrywide callin contest. For the rest a contest run in each state, on the same day, and coordinated over the internet. Maybe more than one contest in each state all adhering to the same rules. A true nationwide contest and national champion on a given day. Maybe a SW division, NW division, MW division, NE division, SE division. What do ya think? I vote Leonard as the head organizer, all in favor AYE!!

Posted by Krustyklimber (Member # 72) on June 16, 2007, 06:30 PM:

Randy,

I don't even have a clue what the population density is here, but if two coyotes are in the same square mile, it would leave dozens of square miles without any in it.

We aren't allowed to have hunting contests, unless they are put on by a recognized non-profit organization.

When everyone in a contest gets skunked, how do they determine the winner? [Big Grin]

Krusty

Posted by Randy Roede (Member # 1273) on June 16, 2007, 06:51 PM:

Ya know,the more I hear about regs. in other states, the happier I am living here.

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Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on June 17, 2007, 09:00 AM:

Yeah, be grateful. We got to the point where we don't advertize or promote a damned thing. It just doesn't pay. LB

Posted by DanS (Member # 316) on June 17, 2007, 10:15 AM:

OK, Being a part time amature here, I'll still post on the numbers. Five was about the most I've ever seen come to the call at one sitting, and We didn't get any on that ClusterF@k. Pretty sad huh. [Big Grin]

That was near Wilson, AZ close to a few of you guys.

Guessing the most I've called in on a single day would be about ten. I only hunt from basically November to late Febuary or early March.

Posted by 3 Toes (Member # 1327) on June 17, 2007, 04:48 PM:

I was looking at some new paperwork the other day that stated that certain areas in Kansas are now figured to be the highest population per sq mi in the nation.

Posted by smithers (Member # 646) on June 17, 2007, 05:02 PM:

The way some guys from Kansas tell it there isn't but a couple here and there. There are some pretty high density areas around here you just have to know a lot of landowners to get to them, ya know. Kinda like everywhere else.

Posted by onecoyote (Member # 129) on June 17, 2007, 09:03 PM:

You'd be real hard pressed to find more coyotes per sq "foot" then in certain places in the SW and Mexico. If you've been there you know what I'm talking about. [Smile]

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on June 17, 2007, 09:25 PM:

Yes, we know what/where you are talking about. Do you know how few people know this? Yes you do, so we ban those words, on Huntmasters. [Smile]

Posted by TRnCO (Member # 690) on June 18, 2007, 04:48 PM:

My best called in count from sun up to sun down count was 24 in western TX. I've called 7 in on one stand two different times, and one of them was in north central KS. about 15 years ago, and the other was in TX.
Then there was last winter where I called in 6 on one stand and never killed any of them. I figured with the nasty winter we were having that the coyotes might be like quail in that they need at least 6 to survive nasty cold weather, so instead of killing one and having the others freeze to death, I just sent warning shots thier way! [Roll Eyes]

Posted by JeremyKS (Member # 736) on June 18, 2007, 05:01 PM:

3 Toes, I would be interested in seeing this new info on coyote populations. How do they come up with these figures? You got a link or something?

Posted by stevecriner (Member # 892) on June 18, 2007, 06:43 PM:

Ive called 9 in one stand. Got one,,,,,DAMN CAMERAS!!!

Me and Randy Shaw called in 7 in a day here in Mo killed 2. Best day last year...in MO for me.

Posted by 3 Toes (Member # 1327) on June 18, 2007, 07:39 PM:

No link Jeremy, just some new USDA stats that I got a chance to read. I will check and see if it is info I can pass along. (the whole report)

[ June 18, 2007, 07:40 PM: Message edited by: 3 Toes ]

Posted by Nahuatl (Member # 708) on June 19, 2007, 12:47 PM:

Last year was a hoot. Two eight dog days and one seven dog day - banker's hours between 10am and 4pm hunting solo with a shotgun right around home. One of those days included a shotgun quad. Liz and I called 20+ animals on 6 stands on a club hunt and shot 5 coyotes and 2 bobcats for a win. Don J and I flushed 9 coyotes while parking and then shot 14 others and a porcupine from a single stand in north NV. That was just last year.

But the best ever was watching JVO and the Orellis dump 36 tails and 43 tails at club check-ins after 46 hour hunts about 10 years ago. Those guys were smokin'. Leonard was there.

Posted by JeremyKS (Member # 736) on June 19, 2007, 01:41 PM:

Thats some good shooting Nahuatl. A shotgun quad would be on my list along with twofer by a rifle. Did I read that right that you shot 14 coyotes on one stand?

Posted by onecoyote (Member # 129) on June 19, 2007, 03:16 PM:

My memory is getting bad but I think I counted 45 coyotes. That's probably in about 30/32 hours of actual hunting time.
The last hunt I saw Rick O. compete, he brought back more then coyotes.
A few years before that Rick O. and his old hunting partner Lyle B. also checked in 45 coyotes and said they lost 5 tails that blew out of the truck, that would have been 50.
Nahuatl, you had some super hunters in the old O. C. chapter also. One team that was outstanding was Jim T. Bruce D. and Skip C. they held the record for years with the most points at a State check-in. They checked in 42 animals on a state hunt once, I believe 15 of them were cats.
At this point in time I would have to say you are the King of the shotgun hunters, I don't think many would or could disagree that.
Probably be alot of guys trying it your way this year. [Smile]

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Posted by 6mm284 (Member # 1129) on June 23, 2007, 04:04 AM:

called and killed 15 of 18 in a short day and a half in califronia 2 years ago and 14 of 18 in one day the following november. Definately a record and one I hope I live to repeat with one hunting partner.Tracked and killed five in a day a couple of times in Iowa in winter by myself,but the stars really need to line up to get it done. As far as large number in one place, a friend of mine was aerial gunning in Oregon and counted 32 coyotes on a hillside.At first dismissed it as a herd of deer or antelope simply due to the numbers,came around and realized it was all coyotes. Had no clue as t why they had congregated there.Another time we ran 16 off one cow carcass in California.

Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on June 23, 2007, 01:31 PM:

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