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Posted by Kelly Jackson (Member # 977) on March 06, 2007, 06:33 AM:
 
Those with experience, your thoughts please.

Went back out and made a couple of stands Sunday evening and whacked another one.
Yesterday was beautiful, so I headed out after work to make another stand.
Had to drive a little further than I wanted to get to a spot where the wind and sun were right.
My coyotes have been coming from thick mesquite pastures right now, so this is where I went. I used an ecaller and placed it to help position the coyote for a 50-60 yard shot in a clearing. I am tucked into a mesquite on the side of a rise in the shade with the sun at my back and a lite breeze in my face. I got the Jack Russell with me cause he likes to go.
Anyway I start calling and in a couple minutes I see a pack of four headed towards me about 400 yards out as they pass single file thru a small clearing. I turn the volume way down and wait for them to come on in. I pick up flashes of fur as they make there way to thru the mesquites. The Jack Russell has seen them and is getting exited.
They approach within 30 yards of the clearing - about 80 yards from me, 120 yards form the call and in cover too thick to shoot thru. They stop and as I can’t see them real well, I have to assume they are watching the dog. He make a run at the coyotes in the thicket, I tune him back with the training collar. He returns about half way and starts to whine at the coyotes.
They stay in the same area and just mill around. He makes another run at them. I tune him back.
This scenario repeats several more times, with the coyotes never clearing the brush, then the coyotes head back the way they came.
I see them cross the same little clearing way out there.

They don’t try and circle to get the rabbit on the other side of the dog. They just eased out like didn’t have a care in the world.

I am very confident they did not see me and don’t know how they could have got my scent as the breeze was in my face and. they never got close to the area I approached from.

Had a hell of a fun time even thou I never fired a shot. I look at watch on my gun and seventeen minutes has passed.

This is the first group of three or more group I have called in this year in Oklahoma.
I speculate one of them was a hot bitch.

My question is why you think that four coyotes would not challenge a little JR?

Regards
Kelly
 

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Posted by Wiley E (Member # 108) on March 06, 2007, 09:53 AM:
 
Kelly,

Because they obviously had no reason to. Unless you are near a den site or dealing with a territorial pair of adult coyotes, dogs will cost you more coyotes than they will gain you.

Decoy dogs are a denning tool, not a recreational fur harvesting tool.

~SH~
 

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Posted by smithers (Member # 646) on March 06, 2007, 10:15 AM:
 
I was wondering what the dog was for as well. Then I reread and you said 'He likes to go.'

I personally, have never used a dog while calling, and will probably never use a dog or have one with me. Personal choice I guess.

Why give them a rabbit sound only to find a dog at the end of it? Would they have come closer if the dog had not been there? More than likely. They were probably suspicious when the meal they were after turned out to bark instead of squeal and was aggressive instead of writhing in pain.

My suggestion would be to not use prey distress sounds if you have a dog next to you.

I am talking from a position of inexperience with the use of dogs, so let me know if I am off base.
 

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Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on March 06, 2007, 10:30 AM:
 
Okay, I took my redbone hunting once. She did two memorable things. First she chased off three coyotes and blocked me out from taking a decent shot.

Then, when I left her in the cab, on my next stand, she locked the damned door on me and I had to break in, with her "helping" me.

Just say no.

Good hunting. LB

edit: my concept of calling a coyote(s) to a stand with rabbit distress. The coyote sees the dog, and figures the dog is killing a rabbit, and probably has eaten most of it. Find something else to do.....

[ March 06, 2007, 10:32 AM: Message edited by: Leonard ]
 

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Posted by TOM64 (Member # 561) on March 06, 2007, 10:35 AM:
 
Scott, why would those 4 coyotes be sceered of a little Jack Russel when I've seen them try to get bigger dogs around the house? My cousin's young Rottweiler was standing at the edge of the road with a coyote on the other side trying to bait him over, when my cousin hit them with the spotlight there was at least 2 more just past the fence waiting for him.

My thinking, however flawed, would be they see the little dog and relate it to the screaming rabbit and think 2 meals in one.
 

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Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on March 06, 2007, 10:46 AM:
 
Only valid sometimes, Tom. Don't know the reason, but in the event you describe, it wasn't a hunting stand. Sometimes they are spooked by any size dog, and other times, they want to eat it, or kick it's ass. Color of the dog plays some part, on occasion.

Good hunting. LB

edit: my grandson has a Rotweiler that could probably handle three coyotes? On the other hand, he had his ass handed to him when he jumped into a yard with four pitbulls in it.

[ March 06, 2007, 10:48 AM: Message edited by: Leonard ]
 

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Posted by Wiley E (Member # 108) on March 06, 2007, 11:05 AM:
 
Tom 64: "Scott, why would those 4 coyotes be sceered of a little Jack Russel when I've seen them try to get bigger dogs around the house?"

No two coyotes are the same in every situation.

There is so many variables to this Tom!

You have timid dogs and timid coyotes. You have aggressive coyotes and timid dogs. You have aggressive dogs and timid coyotes. You have agressive dogs and agressive coyotes.

Each dog/coyote combination will give you a different result.

Then you have different aged coyotes and different times of the year will also create different responses.

Every coyote is an individual and they each have a different level of curiousity and caution based on their previous life's experiences.

I can't possibly tell you why those particular coyotes would shy from the dog but I'll give you a couple good guesses. Their last assocation with any dog might have involved a human which created a less than desirable experience for them. Perhaps they were chased by bigger dogs and realized that it's not the dog in the fight but rather the fight in the dog.

Trust me, it happens! Hell a yapping poodle can tree a mountain lion under the right circumstances then the next poodle will become a lion turd.

You can have a weiner dog that will run a young set of coyotes off and the next time he'll run into an adult pair of coyotes that will eat his lunch.

No two situations are exactly the same. It's a conditioned response.

If you put a dog near a denning pair of coyotes in June, very few coyotes won't work the dogs.

If you put a dog near a timid pup during the fall, very few coyotes won't run from a dog of any size.

~SH~

[ March 06, 2007, 11:07 AM: Message edited by: Wiley E ]
 

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Posted by Kelly Jackson (Member # 977) on March 06, 2007, 12:18 PM:
 
Scott – thx for your reply and I agree with everything you said, except it being obvious as to why. I guess that has everything to do with my lack of understanding coyote behavior and all the variables involved.
I have had pairs act aggressive when they saw the dog. I have also had a few singles act the same. (when I say singles, that does not mean their mate was not a just a short distant away – I mean they approached as singles)
He has only run a couple off before yesterday and they sure enough left right now. They did not hang around like these did. I do think the coyotes hung up yesterday because of the dog. I also know that usually when a coyote gets within 80 yards of me they are in serious trouble……….
I am pretty certain without him I would have killed one or two of those yesterday, but I would have thought that 4 coyotes would view the JR as pretty easy prey/and or something they could kill cause it was there. Not always so and that was “obvious”.

Leonard – the JR has locked me out twice when I left him in the truck to make stands for cats………but I always have a hide out key on the frame.

Smithers – I don’t take the dog all the time, but I do like to watch the coyote’s reaction when one sees him. I also like having him there because the little shit loves to go and he makes me smile.
 

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Posted by TOM64 (Member # 561) on March 06, 2007, 12:39 PM:
 
Scott, I wondered if it had to do with attitude. Seen alot of different responses when training bird dogs and crossing a coyote. I think they read body language and attitude (even between coyotes) just as we can tell when a dog is friendly or not.

Kelly, I guess you need to turn up his "tuner" and make happy Jack look more like a happy meal.
 

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Posted by canine (Member # 687) on March 06, 2007, 03:06 PM:
 
My experience today was, my dog was the pussy . I have been calling in alot of pairs lately that are putting on some real good show's...so..I took the ol'ladies Pomeranian with me today. Around the house and in the yard this boy isn't scared of shit, call in 2 coyotes within 100 yards and he hides behind me . The male of the pair showed that he wanted to approach but reluctantley didn't.

I will definately have a trained dog come next winter!

How long did you have in training your dog Kelly?

JD
 

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Posted by JD (Member # 768) on March 06, 2007, 03:59 PM:
 
Kelly, are you saying that your JRT kept 4 coyotes occupied for 17 minutes all within 80yds of the gun?

If so it sounds to me like your dog did just what he was supposed to after all that poor JRT can`t control the fact that they stopped in a place where you couldn`t shoot & I`m sure the coyotes didn`t know any better either. I know I`m pleased when my dogs produce a standing target that is oblivious to my presence, which is normally how it goes.

Sounds like a hell of a deal to me of course I hunt with dogs regularly so I don`t put a whole lot of stock in the opinions of those who don`t for whatever reason, no offense intended, naysayers.
 

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Posted by smithers (Member # 646) on March 06, 2007, 04:51 PM:
 

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Sounds like a hell of a deal to me of course I hunt with dogs regularly so I don`t put a whole lot of stock in the opinions of those who don`t for whatever reason, no offense intended, naysayers.

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if you don't mind the snot nosed windows and all the dog hair in your rig.

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Unfortunately, that is the price of having a hunting dog in the truck.

As far as whether or not he did his job well is hard to say as I was not there but to say that those coyotes would have come on in to an open spot if the dog wasn`t there is borderline ridiculous, you can`t know that by reading a post on the internet, we can take an educated guess but that`s it, even Kelly, who was there, said that he assumed that they were watching the dog as he couldn`t see for sure, maybe that`s the spot that they would have stopped if there hadn`t been a dog, who knows, "sometimes this shit just don`t work" even when you don`t have a dog.

How many of you guys called & killed 100% this year? besides Wiley

I usually hunt open country & can see the coyotes for quite a ways off unless the grass is tall, my dog runs a little at first but usually ends up on a hill beside me sitting there watching the terrain as if he knows what is supposed to happen(they do that after a while). Many times he`ll spot the coyote before I do & go out to greet it, sometimes at 400yds sometimes at 150 yds ,or he`ll see one hanging up out a ways & go after it, he`ll woof & chase for a few yds & then turn & head back, sometimes having to watch his backside very closely, after a dozen or so episodes like that the dog is within 30 or so yds & the coyote is sometimes closer than that, I SHOOT the coyote because I don`t have any gawdamned mesquite blocking my view

Yes, sometimes young coyotes will hang up at 200-300yds when they see a dog, not all of them but a few, what I usually do if a coyote hangs up at a couple hundred yds is SHOOT the coyote because I don`t have any Gawdamned mesquite in the way.

Could I have killed those coyotes without a dog? most of them but many of them ended up in my lap, crossways, snarling & snapping at my dog. I`ll take a 30 yd broadside over a 200 yd quartering shot any day.


Dogs aint for everyone that`s for sure & when you first get started they won`t chase off a few coyotes they`ll chase off EVERY coyote, that`s the price, if your impatient don`t try it it aint for you. If your a contest hunter, don`t try it it aint for you. If that`s how I made my living I would leave the dogs for the most part for denning work. But if you enjoy dogs & really enjoy calling coyotes & have time on your hands then by all means get a dog & give it a try.

I would however suggest that you leave the wifes freakin chihuahua at home along with Pomeranians, poodles & any other cute fluffy pet that you think would make a good decoy, coyotes aren`t "usually" playing when they engage a dog. Although it does make for some entertaining posts when someone has to buy a new pet for their wife not to mention that I have a certain disdain for loud snappy little prick-type dogs anyway. Cats for bait/decoys is OK in my book though.



As much as I think it would do all you grumbly bastards some good to take the time to train a dog & enjoy your time in the field with him I also understand that some of you have a bad taste from previous experiences, it aint for everyone but I have serious reservations about some of the opinions about dogs that are presented as fact.

BTW...did I mention that we don`t have any Gawdamned mesquite around here.
 

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Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on March 06, 2007, 07:23 PM:
 
no mesquite? What do the coyotes eat?

Hey, I'm not anti dog. They just don't fit with my type of predator hunting. If they did, I'd use them. If I had one, that is.

I will say this though. Night hunting. They sure come in handy, tracking a runner.

Good hunting. LB
 

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Posted by Rich (Member # 112) on March 06, 2007, 07:38 PM:
 
I don't own a dog, but I did just buy a full body mount of a coyote that I found on E bay. I have often wondered if maybe these Iowa coyotes would cross a little more wide open ground if they saw another coyote standing over there near the spot that they just heard the howl of a stranger. I guess maybe I will soon find out the answer to that question.
 

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Posted by JD (Member # 768) on March 06, 2007, 07:44 PM:
 

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no mesquite? What do the coyotes eat?

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Coyotes around here don`t eat, they just screw, that`s why we call exclusively with estrous chirps.

Man I wish we could use a rig at night like you guys do, if we could it would be my preferred method hands down. I love to night hunt & we can do it here but what a hassle to walk out to a stand in total darkness carrying lights & whatnot not mention the height advantage......you guys got it made.

And yes it would be nice to have a dog for tracking at night unfortunately with our limitations it just doesn`t work well to have a dog along after dark.
 

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Posted by TOM64 (Member # 561) on March 06, 2007, 07:46 PM:
 
Always wanted a good coyote dog (whatever that is) but I remember reading an article years ago in a farm and ranch magazine I think, anyway this guy (proffesional ADC man) just sat on a hillside and howled. When he got an answer his big dog took off and played with the coyotes for a while then when the dog got tired and realized he was getting whipped he came running back to his master begging him to shoot the coyotes chasing him. He was asked how to train a dog to do that and he said they either learn real quick or it's time to get another dog.
 

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Posted by JD (Member # 768) on March 06, 2007, 07:53 PM:
 
Tom, I`d say for the most part that his observations about coyote dogs are right on the money, it seems like after the first couple seasons they learn how the game is played but, like any hunting dog, there are those who won`t make the grade, I`ve owned a few bird dogs like that.
 

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Posted by Kelly Jackson (Member # 977) on March 06, 2007, 07:53 PM:
 
JD - lets go hunting.

Rich - My brother has a stufffed fox that has worked in the past........he lives waaaay out in the boonies and sets it under the vapor light. Last year I know of eight he killed from his bedroom window. no bullshit..
Kelly

edit to say before the fox decoy he leashed his blue heeler and did quite well.

[ March 06, 2007, 07:58 PM: Message edited by: Kelly Jackson ]
 

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Posted by JD (Member # 768) on March 06, 2007, 08:11 PM:
 
Rich, here`s a picture of the decoy we use along with a pre-penile peep call.


 

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Posted by Az-Hunter (Member # 17) on March 06, 2007, 08:59 PM:
 
Im reasonably certain Scott, has a pretty good handle on the wintertime decoy dog and pony show scenario. Figure out the percentage of stands where you call a coyote/coyotes, then factor in the percentage of stands the dog runs off the coyote,or just plain fucks up a good calling set up,versus the perfect scene the dog guys like to describe,and the odds of diminishing returns manifests itself.
In the winter time, when calling, the coyote is all ready, or should be all ready in gun range,and if stand is set up properly, there is no mesquite in the way, or damned dog running hap hazzard around to screw up a clean kill shot.
But as Tim mentioned, there are lots of guys who just like the companionship of fluffy along for the hunt,and thats ok too....it's a big tent:)
 

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Posted by canine (Member # 687) on March 06, 2007, 09:19 PM:
 
JD
My Pomeranian is a vicious little shit I had him on a 20' retractable lead. I caught it all on video, the coyotes reactions that is, the vicious
little shit was hiding behind me and the camera.

I'm goin this weekend to look at a couple MT. Cur's to work through the summer and hope to have them ready come next Febuary. I'm hoping that by having the dog in the mix will allow me to capture longer video segmants of each hunt.

JD
 

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Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on March 06, 2007, 09:27 PM:
 
Good luck, canine.

By the way, what is the prefered spelling for pussy's? Is pussy considered plural, in some cases? "Look at all that pussy"

Good hunting. LB
 

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Posted by canine (Member # 687) on March 06, 2007, 09:48 PM:
 
Thanks Leonard.

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Leonard: By the way, what is the prefered spelling for pussy's? Is pussy considered plural, in some cases? "Look at all that pussy"

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Depends, are you talkin more than 1 pussy? Like 2 pussy's or just 1 big ol'fat pussy?

JD
 

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Posted by Kelly Jackson (Member # 977) on March 06, 2007, 09:53 PM:
 
pussy - pussies - hell I like them all.....I will do better next time.
 

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Posted by JD (Member # 768) on March 06, 2007, 09:54 PM:
 
Vic, I`m not talking about dogs that are running hither & yon causing all sorts of commotion, running deer & the like when they should be doing other things.

In many cases the coyotes are in range but in some they are not, regardless the dog can & will bring them closer & keep them occupied whilst you shoot at them through the gawdamned mesquite or if like me, you hunt open country they nearly always afford an easy shot while tending to the dog. However I would point out that not every stand goes as planned & that doesn`t automatically have something to do with a dog. It`s awful hard to make a "factual" statement about what might be or could`ve possibly happened if you did or did not have a dog.

I will tell you this much for sure, every time I have a dog on stand & I kill a coyote with my rifle......it dies. Add that to your diminishing returns!
 

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Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on March 06, 2007, 10:49 PM:
 
Some guys who use dogs train the dog to come in with the use of a squeaker or lip squeak...
 

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Posted by Rich (Member # 112) on March 07, 2007, 05:26 AM:
 
Here is a photo of my latest investment. Any suggestions as to what I should name it?


 

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Posted by Rich (Member # 112) on March 07, 2007, 05:29 AM:
 
Here is another view of same mount.

 

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Posted by Rich (Member # 112) on March 07, 2007, 05:33 AM:
 
And yet another view. Anybody getting jealous yet?

 

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Posted by TOM64 (Member # 561) on March 07, 2007, 05:43 AM:
 
How about Sue? I got the feeling it's gonna be in alot of fights.
 

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Posted by Cal Taylor (Member # 199) on March 07, 2007, 06:37 AM:
 
I don't know what youa re going to name it Rich, but by the facial expession it just got shot in the Ass!
 

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Posted by Joel Hughes (Member # 384) on March 07, 2007, 06:54 AM:
 
That's gonna be fun hauling to stands. Call it Heavy Sumbitch.
 

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Posted by Rich (Member # 112) on March 07, 2007, 08:03 AM:
 
"I don't know what youa re going to name it Rich, but by the facial expession it just got shot in the Ass!"
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I think you nailed it Cal!! Maybe I should name her Buckshot?
 

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Posted by Wiley E (Member # 108) on March 07, 2007, 08:41 AM:
 
Rich,

How about naming your decoy "Hernia"?

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JD: "How many of you guys called & killed 100% this year? besides Wiley"

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Now now! Little satire there?

I miss more than my share.

Guys, let me help settle this. Where Vic and Tim call, I guarantee you a dog would cost you a lot of coyotes because, if their pictures and Vic's video footate is any indication, these guys have pretty solid cover in most of their calling stands. That's not conducive to decoy dogs at all. In fact outside of the denning season for ADC work, it would be a disaster because coyotes are going to use that cover to get the advantage on the dog.

JD, I've been over the entire state of NE and you have a lot more visibility than most guys in AZ do making a decoy dog a little more tolerable with timid coyotes during the fur season. A JR doesn't cover too much ground too quickly and they are entertaining as hell.

Once again, I am quite sure that the habitat differences are shaping the opinion differences on this topic.

I'll admit, it's a lot of fun watching a decoy dog work at any time of the year if killing is secondary to entertainment. Working with decoy dogs is absolutely the ultimate rush in calling. I've never been on a stand with my decoy dogs where I didn't get a good laugh or two. It's always entertaining because the dog is enjoying the hell out of it and the coyotes absolutely hate it. I've laughed so hard at times I couldn't shoot due to the tears in my eyes. Stupid dog is in the creek running back and forth barking and the coyote sits up on the bank and watches the dog go back and forth. The funniest thing I ever saw was a coyote that jumped on top of a 10' high badlands flat top knob while the dog made 2 more laps around the base. The coyote would just watch the stupid dog as it run circles around the butte too stupid to know he was being watched from above. Then when the dog finally stopped below the coyote the coyote let out a scream and the dog wasn't athletic enough to get to the coyote. I just laugh thinking back on it. You can't put a price on it.

Was calling with Don Laubaugh and Merv Griswold once and watched a dog coyote become so frustrated that he lifted his leg and pissed on it's mate. That's on film. Someone mentioned Rodney Dangerfield.

~SH~

[ March 07, 2007, 08:59 AM: Message edited by: Wiley E ]
 

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Posted by Rich (Member # 112) on March 07, 2007, 09:27 AM:
 
"How about naming your decoy "Hernia"?"
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I will have to wait and see just how heavy this bugger is. Now iffen she draws a few of these Iowa coyotes out of the ditches and across open field where I can shoot em------Well I may just call her "Magic".
 

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Posted by Rich (Member # 112) on March 07, 2007, 09:30 AM:
 
I want to let you guys know that the large log the mount is standing on does not come with the mount. I will likely use it either free standing, or maybe front feet on a light weight board or something.
 

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Posted by slydog (Member # 389) on March 07, 2007, 09:40 AM:
 
Rich,

If Cal is right you should name her "Butshot". I wondering from the posture if she is in "Estrus".............LOL

Name her "Heat Peeps" or hot mamma.......lol

She look like a good hunting buddy should, quiet,motionless and totaly ready to do just what you say and no more.....

Rich, my "Deek" weighs less than 6 lbs and is not that bad to pack to stands, just bulky.

sly

[ March 07, 2007, 09:42 AM: Message edited by: slydog ]
 

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Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on March 07, 2007, 09:54 AM:
 
I will be anxious to here your evaluations, Mr. Cronk.

I used one way back when, and my impression was that every hard charging coyote checked up imediately, usually where a shot was difficult. Forget about circling downwind, they didn't bother. Just stopped, and shortly thereafter, left, or at least, far enough that they were out of sight.

You know, when you have one down, in plain sight, and another coyote comes in on the same line? You never know what will happen. They might stop and look around, or they might approach the dead coyote, but with the decoy standing up, it seems to alter the response, in a negative way.

I know what you are thinking, an alpha might defend his territory, but I didn't see that happen, mainly because I finally retired the decoy before I lost any more animals.

Good luck! LB
 

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Posted by Q-Wagoner (Member # 33) on March 07, 2007, 11:07 AM:
 
I think having a dog along can be fun and entertaining but are not an asset. A well-trained dog in the wintertime MIGHT break even on what they spook off and what they bring in. But at that it would still take a little imagination about what would have happened with out the dog. You can’t really know. Being the pothunter type I elect to leave my dogs at home or back at the pickup anymore when I go hunting.

I say “well trained” for wintertime coyotes because the dogs are not allowed to do what comes naturally to them. I think in the summer time, in a control work environment a dog can do more of what comes naturally to them thus being more of an asset. Paired and denning coyotes are the first responders. At this time of the year they have something to loose so they are far more likely to respond aggressively and/or territorially to your dog. In the wintertime they typically don’t.

I have seen my dogs bump a coyote only once many times and that is the last I saw of them. Usually in this wide-open country that I hunt I see the coyotes coming in before the dogs do. When the coyotes see the dogs they would typically just stop. They would watch for a while and then leave. If my dogs would pick them up they would make a charge and the coyote would leave. On a few occasions the coyote would see the dogs and come running as hard as he could and I don’t think anything out side of a bullet would stop them. This makes the shots much more difficult.

After a while I would just shoot the coyotes when they stopped if they were in range but the dogs caught on to that trick as well. I shoot prone so as soon as I swing the barrel into shooting position the dogs knew something was up. Seconds later they would be running around in front of my rifle on their hind legs desperately trying to see the coyote. At that stage I just quit bringing them. I want the coyote to have my undivided attention. I don’t want to worry about where and what the dogs are doing.

My experiences have been both positive and negative but I think to kill more coyotes in the fall and winter you had better leave the dogs at home. I group dogs into the same category as I do e-callers and decoys. It is fun to see coyotes respond to these devices from a sort of “out side the box” point of view because it is different. It is unique to what you may be use to from using a hand call. Don’t make the mistake of thinking different is better. It might be neater but is it really better. Maybe neater is what you are looking for in the first place?

Good hunting.

Q,
 

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Posted by Rich (Member # 112) on March 07, 2007, 11:39 AM:
 
Leonard,
I find myself posting here on this board more than any other. I plan to begin my testing of the new decoy fairly soon, and will report back here with my findings. I hope that my experiences with this new decoy will be different than yours. Maybe your decoy was not as "pretty" as mine?
 

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Posted by Melvin (Member # 634) on March 07, 2007, 12:50 PM:
 
Wiley E,thats about what,Rich would wind up with at his age"A hernia" Lugging a decoy and a stump around.LOL
 

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Posted by Rich (Member # 112) on March 07, 2007, 02:13 PM:
 
Melvin,
No, No the stump don't go! Just the coyote Melvin, just the coyote. At MY age, I be lucky to make it to my stand anyhoo. Prolly put wheels on that decoy or somethin'.
 

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Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on March 07, 2007, 02:53 PM:
 
Shit, as handy as you are, and with all that time on your hands, why not put it on a skateboard, radio controlled? Mudder wheels, etc.

Good hunting. LB
 

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Posted by albert (Member # 98) on March 07, 2007, 03:57 PM:
 
Rich I think the posture is to aggresive to be effective. Cause a lot of long distance hang ups.
 

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Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on March 07, 2007, 04:15 PM:
 
Silverfox in N.D. has been useing a redfox decoy in a sitting position. It has a more friendy appeal and from what i here it works very well...
 

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Posted by Rich (Member # 112) on March 07, 2007, 04:32 PM:
 
Leonard,
You have me starting to really THINK now, and that could be dangerous ya know? I wonder if I could soup up a Go-Ped to handle the extra weight, put a saddle on old ButtShot and ride him right on up to my chosen stand? Let me type a little slower for the young upstarts here. Mount the decoy on a souped up G0-Ped. Now put saddle on decoy. I mount the decoy and ride the whole works out for the hunt. I may be able to alter the carb so Go-Ped would run on coyote pee. Maybe it would run on Leonard's magic mist even? That way, coyote would follow my scent stream directly to the decoy. Are you guys following me so far?
 

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Posted by coyotehombre (Member # 1161) on March 07, 2007, 06:14 PM:
 
JD, You da man.
 

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Posted by smithers (Member # 646) on March 07, 2007, 08:22 PM:
 
Mr. Cronk, that mounted coyote is my idea of a decoy. A live dog should be considered a lure or bait.
I just go grab things from the local fly- fishing store and use them as decoys. I can buy a whole rabbit face, ears and all and slap it on a feather flex rabbit. Coyote lunch. Whole pheasant wings and deer tails. All sorts of good stuff at the fly shop.
 

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