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Az-Hunter
Hi, I'm Vic WELCOME TO THE U.S. Free baloney sandwiches here
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posted January 28, 2007 07:50 PM
The last three weeks, the coyotes have been running really good here in southern Az. Might have been the snow,or just weather change patterns, but, Ive been knocking the hell out of them Im happy to say.
What has amazed me is the incidence of mange, Ive shot three coyotes now, the last one, this afternoon, had a pretty bad case. Any of you other Arizona hunters seeing any mange in your areas? All three have been older males, and riddled pretty good, maybe half their bodies affected with the typical hairless, purple,scabby look.
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TA17Rem
Hello, I'm the legendary Tim Anderson, Southern Minneesota Know it all
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posted January 28, 2007 08:51 PM
Sorry to hear about the mange moveing in, i hope it don't get worse. It took a long time here for the mange to clear-up in some ares. This year the furs are the best i have ever seen and hopefully i can get a good price for them...
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slydog
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posted February 03, 2007 02:49 PM
Vic,
I haven't hunted down your way this year but I know that from east Texas up through OK, KS, NB, SD, ND and in to Alberta its real bad. I heard Q is having real trouble with it and I know its bad in Kansas.
Here in Idaho we are getting some real heavy #1's and #2's just white as driven snow. Some of the best fur I have put up in years and no sign of mange.
I hope you boys don't let it get out of control down there. I shot a mange infested coyote in OK the last two times I was there and neither one had enough hair on them to fill a coffee cup.
Good luck on this one Vic
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TA17Rem
Hello, I'm the legendary Tim Anderson, Southern Minneesota Know it all
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posted February 03, 2007 05:26 PM
Here is my .2 cents on the mange problem. What i say is not a proveing fact but just my observation. We have had mange here since the mid 80's in coyotes and fox. The areas were i would see it show up the most was where the fox or coyotes was liveing along a drainage ditch. They would use the culverts to escape danger and get out of the weather when it turns badd. Later on CRP was introduced to the area, which provided more cover for the animals and since the field was'nt being plowed they would digg dens and they would be there year round. This year we have spent more time hunting the long grass as to previous years and have noticed the coyotes are useing the dens year round and like the coyotes that live along the drainage ditches they are also showing up with mange or poor quality fur. I know the mange is caused by a pericite, but i also believe the coyotes and fox are not getting enough sun and this can cause there immune system to break down. Not all the coyotes and fox are useing dens but there are a few and like i said they are the ones with the mange. So far this year we have only got two or three with a little bit of it, the rest of the coyotes we have been getting have the nicest fur i have ever seen, the belley hairs are very long and silky and they look good.. Like i said at the beginning this is not a fact its just what i have been seeing.
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Rich
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posted February 03, 2007 06:22 PM
Coyotes with mange tend to lose their fur coat. With no fur coat to keep them warm, they seek out an old barn, a hole in the ground, and old culvert or anywhere they can find in order to keep from freezing to death. Not too hard to figure that little problem out. ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
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TA17Rem
Hello, I'm the legendary Tim Anderson, Southern Minneesota Know it all
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posted February 03, 2007 09:38 PM
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[ March 28, 2010, 09:02 PM: Message edited by: TA17Rem ]
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Rich
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posted February 04, 2007 05:58 AM
TA17Rem,
A lot of the coyotes in my old stomping grounds have been wiped out by the mange. Mange is a real coyote killer sometimes. I hope my area gets filled back up with healthy coyotes again real soon. The farmers up there don't like coyotes, but I do. ![[Frown]](frown.gif)
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coyote whacker
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posted February 04, 2007 06:13 AM
TA17 sunlight affects there immune system? What study is that information found?
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Leonard
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posted February 04, 2007 06:43 AM
CW, did you see this part? He is stating opinion, as we all do, from time to time.
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What i say is not a proveing fact but just my observation. TA
Good hunting. LB
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6mm284
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posted February 06, 2007 03:03 AM
coyotes can experience 2 types of mange, Demodectic(hair born) and sarcoptic(skin born). The demo type is normal and is controlled by the immune system.dogs can also have it and even humans may host it.The healthy immune system deals with it. Sarcoptic mange is skin born.It is an immunosupressant and causes the host to be susceptible to many illness that would otherwise be harmless.Sarcoptic mange does not go away on its own, It must be treated or the host just passes it on contact to others ,including humans.Its live cycle is generally very short on humans but on coyotes it is as long as the life of the coyote.Drier climates inhibit the survival of the mange mites if no host is present.Dampness in denning places or hole ups provide a survivable environment for the mite until it can attach to a another coyote.The pups will pick it up from the mother and have a tough time dealing with it. Females may not successfully settle any embryo or maybe only a few and their chances of surviving it are lowered.Very contagious,probably the only effective natural predator a coyote has. too bad,I would much rather shoot them.
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coyote whacker
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posted February 06, 2007 05:36 AM
Leonard, just asking a true question is all. I thought there may be a study I missed out on. I wouldn't think sunlight to play much of a role in immune system deficiencies and the mange.
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Leonard
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posted February 06, 2007 08:35 AM
Welcome to the New Huntmasters, 6/284 . Glad to have you on board.
CW, no problem, I was just pointing something out for everyone's benefit. I myself, occasionally expound with opinion based on no scientific documentation, whatsoever.
Good hunting. LB
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