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Posted by TRnCO (Member # 690) on January 20, 2007, 09:27 AM:
Yesterday, I was out calling/filming with a guy that I just met earlier this winter. This was our 4th or 5th time out together. He is fairly new to calling. We spotted 4 coyotes about a mile from us, after they had annouced themselves with a serenade howl. We were able to cut the distance on them and I did the calling. They came in all scattered out. He shot the first coyote at about 40 yards. I saw coyote #2 go over the hill leaving after the shot, but I continued to call and here comes #3. She held up at about 100+ yards, and this is when he commenced to firing. He fired 11 rounds at this coyote before connecting ![[Eek!]](eek.gif)
. The goofy thing is, the coyote never began to flee ![[Confused]](confused.gif)
. Instead, it spun around looking as if it was trying to find the horse fly that kept buzzing by. The darndest thing I've ever seen. I continuely kept calling with ki yi/hurt pup sounds, but it was almost as if the coyote didn't even care about that.
This must have been the dumbest coyote this side of the Mississippi! Lucky for the shooter that he had a 20 rd. clip in his AR!
Posted by BigO (Member # 1062) on January 20, 2007, 10:26 AM:
I work in Law Enforcement and we occaisionally get called to injured deer calls. Most of these deer have been hit by a car and have a variety of injuries.
Just a month ago we had a rookie officer in training that got called to one of these situations. Upon arrival he worked the accident as he was supposed to then went to dispatch the deer.
The deer had gotten over or under a barb wire fence along the side of the road before it realized it was to hurt to continue on. It made it about 15 yards before it fell or laid down.
Now a side note before the rest of the story. We carry Glock 40s, and we shoot from distances up to 25 yards during our qualification. The state only requires an officer to shoot 70 percent, our Dept. requires 80 percent.
Anyway, the deer lay there. The officer draws his side arm and fires 9 times before hitting the deer. I was almost ashamed to call myself a cop.
Big "O"
Posted by 2dogs (Member # 649) on January 20, 2007, 10:39 AM:
TRnCO,
"Shot echo"
Go's over the coyotes head, then echo's back. Momentarily confuse's them. Seen this many times.
I tell shooters, if you miss the 1st shot. Et the coyote "lopes", the coyote hasn't "pin-pointed" the noise .
If the coyote, go's into flat-out mode after the "1st" shot. Most likely it has.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on January 20, 2007, 12:24 PM:
quote:
The officer draws his side arm and fires 9 times before hitting the deer.
That's the guy I want waiting outside, when I rob the bank!
Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on January 20, 2007, 03:48 PM:
Two years ago i spotted four coyotes laying together in an open field. I sent a shooter into section from the north, he used a fence line with big snow drifts on it for cover. He made his way to the end of the fence line which put him about 300 yards from the bedded coyotes. I had one spotter along and he parked his pick-up on the west side of the section in plane view of the coyotes. While the coyotes laid there and watched the spotter on the road i sneaked in from the eastside useing a big rock pile for cover.
When i got to the rock pile i set up to take the first shot, i was about 350-400 yards from the coyotes. There was one coyote that was on the small side compared to the others so i guesed it was the female. As i was getting ready to shoot her i let out a squeek with my squeaker and she lifted her head and then i took the shot. The first shot was a hit and i went to pick out another target. After i shot the first one, which was the cue for the other shooter to start shooting. When the smoke cleared and the echo of the guns stopped there where three coyotes laying dead in the snow. One coyote escaped but met his end later that day. Anyway the whole time we were shooting the coyotes just ran around in small circles confused by what was going on with shots comeing from two directions and a pick-up sitting on the road. I would have to say that was one of my best days in the field with more than one coyote...
Posted by onecoyote (Member # 129) on January 20, 2007, 03:50 PM:
2dogs, I don't hear to good, so maybe I'm missing something.
Are you're talking about the sound of the bullet then the sound of the rifle going off?
Posted by 2dogs (Member # 649) on January 20, 2007, 06:50 PM:
onecoyote,
Sound of the rifle, BANG! I've stalked in on a boatload of bedded coyotes in the hills. The majority of the time. I'm above them on my hilltop, shooting downward.
They are generally on the side of their hill across the valley/draw from me.
When I miss on the 1st shot. Some coyotes, can't pinpoint my location initially, because of the Bang-echo on the far hill.
I've had some run right @ me. Others run quartering towards me. Flat-out coyotes, mostly run the opposite direction.
When I miss the 1st shot, I wait to see if they bolt hard or lope. If they lope, I wait until they stop. Generally when they lope, they don't go far. As their, not sure where the noise came from.
eg; I shot @ one sleeper from atop my hill. Coyote was low on it's hill. Range a tad over a 1/4 mile[fencelines]. Coyote, ran in small circles in a 50' radius est. I walked in 4 more rds, missed. Coyote finally bolted hard, gone. Coyote never did know "exactly" where I was.
Another thing. The lower they are below me, the more time it takes for them to pinpoint my location from the gunshot.
When their "even" with me[elevation] wise, on the opposing hill. They make me instantly, gone. Only ever had "one", run right to me. He's dead.
Posted by TRnCO (Member # 690) on January 20, 2007, 07:58 PM:
I have seen what you talk about, but usually on big game such as elk in the mountains. I would guess that at 100 yards or so, it wouldn't be as much of an issue for a coyote to figure out where the "bang" was coming from!
Posted by onecoyote (Member # 129) on January 20, 2007, 08:00 PM:
Thanks for the explanation. ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
Posted by Tim Behle (Member # 209) on January 20, 2007, 09:21 PM:
2Dogs,
I've hunted Red fox like that a few times, but never coyotes. We'd spot them in the snow, then sneak in as close as we could. If they were still out of range, we'd shoot over them. Trying to hit 20 yards directly behind them. If all went well, they would run towards us, then stop and look back at the impact, giving us a broadside, in range shot.
Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on January 21, 2007, 04:57 AM:
Now Tim B. don't be giveing out our fox hunting secrets.. There are somethings other hunters need to find out on there own....
Posted by 2dogs (Member # 649) on January 21, 2007, 09:21 AM:
http://www.hunt101.com/img/466786-big.jpg
Two days ago hunt pic;
Bedded coyote[looking to the left/South, in the pic]. Coyote is laying on the 1st draw above the bottom hill in the picked corn. Coyote is "West" of us, 300yrds est. Wind out of the NorWest 5-8mph.
Wingman, took 1-kneeling shot missed. Coyote loped, South down the draw, then swung SouEast on a far hillside & stopped another 100yrds or so away[est, for those who must be "exact"].
Wingman, swung on the coyote. Et sliced the 2nd rd, under it's chest...miss. Coyote, bolted hard Southbound, gone. Coyote never did know where we were, "exactly".
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on January 21, 2007, 10:03 AM:
I completely understand about how a coyote can become confused as to the location of the shooter.
That is exactly what happend when I was lying prone at the top of a pile of gravel, with a small pond at the base and some mud flats beyond. I had nine coyotes approach the call from the left, about ten o'clock and trot across the edge of the pond to where my caller was located. The immediate area was barren but the surounding area was heavy brush. Those coyotes milled around and never decided which way to run, then they would stop and look at a dead one and it was a little like shooting fish in a barrel.
I've told the story before, but we killed six of them, I got five and my son was blocked out, but eventually, one ran his way. Point is, they were as confused as they ever get; maybe it was the hill and the sound bouncing off the water, but it was a classic "Chinese fire drill". Pretty cool, actually.
Good hunting. LB
edited for spelling
[ January 21, 2007, 10:10 AM: Message edited by: Leonard ]
Posted by 2dogs (Member # 649) on January 21, 2007, 02:00 PM:
Some yrs ago [10?] I bought an M-1 carbine to try out on coyote. Only ammo locally was 110gr FMJ[both rifle & ammo, were crap].
Anyway, I spotted 3 seperate coyotes. Pretty much laying in a row[crooked row, North-south].
I spoke with the farmer. He said, "Kill them" He asked, "Do you mind if My daughter & I watch?" I said, "Well, I guess not" ![[Roll Eyes]](rolleyes.gif)
.
I stalked in. I got to a couple hundred yards to the closest one. The next one North was around 300 or so. The last one way out there.
I decided, to do a SgT. York shot, et shoot the middle one. Thinking if I kill him, the shot echo, will push the closer one to me...missed.
They all bolted hard North & NorEast bound.
Next time I see one, coyote is way out there. Coyote slowed down to a slow walk to pass through a barbed fence. I sent a mortar rd @ him.
Tagged the coyote in the hind leg. Coyote passed on through the fence, turned around came back through again & bolted hard right towards me ![[Cool]](cool.gif)
.
Around the 200yrd marker, coyote quartered, then turned broadside to me. I lead him & commenced to dump rds. Hit him 3X, each time knocked him down, finally killed him. He was a mess. Carotid Artery hit on the 3rd rd.
Farmer's daughter freaked. Farmer smiled.
Posted by JeremyKS (Member # 736) on January 21, 2007, 05:51 PM:
Leonard thats a stand I would like to have been on. Did you have to reload if not thats some great shooting, well even if you reloaded thats some darn good shooting.
TR did you get all that shooting on video?
Posted by varmit hunter (Member # 37) on January 22, 2007, 02:09 PM:
If you have ever been shot at (Hope you haven't) you hear four sounds. Depending on where the shooter is at effects the order of the sounds,
1. The screaming sound of the bullet.
2. The loud squirting sound coming from between you're legs.
3. Three and four can be interchanged. The sound of the impact and the sound of the shot. If you had no idea the shot was coming. Where to head to next can be very confusing especially if you are in a bunch by yourself (Cajun expression).
Posted by TRnCO (Member # 690) on January 22, 2007, 04:50 PM:
Yeah I did Jeremy! ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
Posted by Q-Wagoner (Member # 33) on February 04, 2007, 11:20 AM:
When we were kids two buddies and I set out on a little calling exposition. I had an old bull barreled .223 another kid had his dads .243 and the other a brand new SKS. We sat up overlooking a prairie dog town from a tall hill and I began to call. I was about half way through the first series when I heard the first shot go off. Cory, the .243 shooter, had fired. He was the least experienced hunter among us so Shane and I started looking 4 or 500 yard out to see what he was shooting at. “Kaboom” Cory’s rifle sounded off again and then we saw the coyote racing down the same hill we were on! What had happened was that we sat up right on a coyote and when I started calling it jumped up and was coming in. Cory said all he saw was fur when he fired his first shot. Anyway the poor critter tried to make his escape across the prairie dog town that was flat and about a mile wide. After the dust settled and the smoke cleared we gave the retreating coyote nothing more than a 21-gun salute. LOL
Cory fired 4 rounds, I managed 7 and Shane dumped his 10 round magazine. To my knowledge the coyote is still running.
Good hunting.
Q,
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