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JeremyKS
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Icon 1 posted October 03, 2006 08:44 AM      Profile for JeremyKS   Author's Homepage   Email JeremyKS         Edit/Delete Post 
I observed something this morning that I thought was unusual. Yesterday I was out scouting for deer when I came across a dead coyote carcass that was decomposing near a stock tank. It appeared the coyote laid down next to an old cement storage tank and died. This morning just south of this tank was a young healthy looking coyote with good teeth and no sign of mange next to a yucca bush dead. She died sometime between 10:00 yesterday morning and 8:00 this morning. These coyotes were no more than 50 yards apart. I found it very strange. Any ideas? My first thought was poison but don't know where they would have got into that. It was 98 degrees yesterday very hot for this time of the year. I know this would be a pure guess on your part but wanted to hear some ideas.
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Leonard
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Icon 1 posted October 03, 2006 09:19 AM      Profile for Leonard   Author's Homepage   Email Leonard         Edit/Delete Post 
I was told, a long time ago, the poison used for rats works when they drink water? Other than that, no clue?

Anybody?

Good hunting. LB

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Rich
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Icon 1 posted October 03, 2006 10:47 AM      Profile for Rich   Author's Homepage   Email Rich         Edit/Delete Post 
I would ask the land owner if anyone is using cyanide guns in that area. They usually die within 50 yards after they pull one of those baby's.

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Icon 1 posted October 03, 2006 12:47 PM      Profile for NASA           Edit/Delete Post 
They are supposed to post warning signs in areas where ADC hardware is being utilized.

Jeremy, do you remember any details about the freshly dead one? Some pathological evidence of cyanide poisoning are: Signs of violent convulsions. Opisthotonos (rigidity and severe arching of the back, with the head thrown backward). Bleeding from the nose, vomiting, and involuntary defecation. The eyeballs protrude. The mouth is covered with foam, which is sometimes bloodstained.

Any of these signs present?

[ October 03, 2006, 01:01 PM: Message edited by: NASA ]

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Icon 1 posted October 03, 2006 01:49 PM      Profile for Az-Hunter           Edit/Delete Post 
Thats the first thing I suspected Rich, M44s. Ive seen 3 and 4 all with in 40 yards of the getter set/sets. Sometimes the warning tags are on an entry gate and thats it, Im not sure if they are mandated to post warnings within "X" number of feet or not?
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JeremyKS
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Icon 1 posted October 03, 2006 02:01 PM      Profile for JeremyKS   Author's Homepage   Email JeremyKS         Edit/Delete Post 
all good info but I know this area, no ADC work going on here. The fresh one showed no sign of struggle, looked like she just died while laying on the shady side of a big yucca. She had no blood of vomit. Eyes looked normal also, just glazed over. I stepped on her and you could hear the air being pushed out of her. Another thought I had was she drank too much from the heat and then died??
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Tim Behle
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Icon 1 posted October 03, 2006 02:40 PM      Profile for Tim Behle   Author's Homepage   Email Tim Behle         Edit/Delete Post 
Are you sure that there isn't anyone around there shooting a 17? I've killed a number of coyotes and had a hard time finding the wound, and I knew where I had shot it!

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Icon 1 posted October 03, 2006 03:53 PM            Edit/Delete Post 
Jeremy, has Rich Cronk been calling that area? I hear that when Rich starts howling the coyotes die laughing. [Big Grin]
Wait, that's what Rich says about me. Never mind.

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Icon 1 posted October 03, 2006 04:00 PM      Profile for JD           Edit/Delete Post 
[Smile] I don`t know about Cronk blowing on a howler, I figured they were reading the "Where`s B.S." thread & died of old age before they reached the end of it.

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Icon 1 posted October 03, 2006 04:38 PM      Profile for NASA           Edit/Delete Post 
Now that's some funny chit, right there! [Big Grin]
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JeremyKS
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Icon 1 posted October 03, 2006 04:50 PM      Profile for JeremyKS   Author's Homepage   Email JeremyKS         Edit/Delete Post 
haha that’s funny...
Nobody should be in there shooting coyotes and I doubt they are, it’s on a private ranch.
This is one of those unsolved mysteries that will never be solved but I thought I would see if you guys had any ideas.

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Leonard
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Icon 1 posted October 03, 2006 05:29 PM      Profile for Leonard   Author's Homepage   Email Leonard         Edit/Delete Post 
I have yet to stumble across a coyote, died of natural causes.

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JeremyKS
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Icon 1 posted October 03, 2006 05:34 PM      Profile for JeremyKS   Author's Homepage   Email JeremyKS         Edit/Delete Post 
Leonard,
me either thats why I posted this very curious and kind of worried they may have something but who knows.

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Cal Taylor
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Icon 1 posted October 03, 2006 06:10 PM      Profile for Cal Taylor   Email Cal Taylor         Edit/Delete Post 
Maybe someone doesn't want you to win St. Francis again! [Big Grin]

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JeremyKS
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Icon 1 posted October 03, 2006 06:21 PM      Profile for JeremyKS   Author's Homepage   Email JeremyKS         Edit/Delete Post 
hey now these coyotes are worth fighting over hehe I thought I saw a dodge with wyoming plates driving around lol
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JD
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Icon 1 posted October 03, 2006 07:06 PM      Profile for JD           Edit/Delete Post 
Jeremy, Were there any buildings or grain bins within a reasonable distance where they could have come in contact with rat poison? I`ve heard the same thing Leonard mentioned about that but who knows.

btw....I thought some of that footage on Cals video looked an awful lot like Kansas. [Big Grin]

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Icon 1 posted October 03, 2006 07:28 PM      Profile for Butch-1           Edit/Delete Post 
I have seen something like that in the past while trapping. One year we had a few coons found dead around farm ponds. The trapping in that area wasn't very good that year either. It was like distemper or something like that.
They seem to want to get down to water for some reason. Then they end up dying next to the pond or water source.

In deer don't they call it blue tongue or something like that.

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Icon 1 posted October 03, 2006 08:24 PM      Profile for TA17Rem   Email TA17Rem         Edit/Delete Post 
maybe rabbies

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Rich Higgins
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Icon 1 posted October 03, 2006 09:13 PM            Edit/Delete Post 
There are several diseases that can be fatal to coyotes. Some are viral such as rabies, bacterial such as tularemia, fungal such as histoplasmosis, rickettsial and transmitted by ticks such as Rocky Mountain spotted fever or worse Ehrlichiosis,and protozoan such as Coccidiosis. Most emaciate the coyote but some can work quickly and leave a dead animal with little physical sign of illness.
Canine hepatitus and parvo can quickly decimate a population.

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Cal Taylor
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Icon 1 posted October 04, 2006 05:22 AM      Profile for Cal Taylor   Email Cal Taylor         Edit/Delete Post 
Canine Hepatitus....

I think thats what I caught from that night I spent with Pam Anderson.

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Rich Higgins
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Icon 1 posted October 04, 2006 06:55 AM            Edit/Delete Post 
If Jeremy finds you lying under a yucca bush next to the hot tub the case is solved.
Jeremy, did the dead coyote have a silly-ass grin on it's face?

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Icon 1 posted October 04, 2006 08:17 AM      Profile for Leonard   Author's Homepage   Email Leonard         Edit/Delete Post 
...in your dreams, Cal. That type of lightning strikes once, like Sandra Bullock and some bike jocky. But, we all have our dreams. LB

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JeremyKS
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Icon 1 posted October 09, 2006 06:22 AM      Profile for JeremyKS   Author's Homepage   Email JeremyKS         Edit/Delete Post 
Sorry for the delay in the reply I was out guiding some antelope hunters...

Not sure where this one is going Rich but I do believe he did have a grin on his face [Wink]

[ October 09, 2006, 06:22 AM: Message edited by: JeremyKS ]

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Icon 1 posted October 12, 2006 07:41 PM      Profile for TOM64           Edit/Delete Post 
Around here parvo has closed down (killed out) an animal shelter twice in the last 2 weeks. The lady on the news said parvo outbreaks kick off in spring and fall right after a rain if I heard right.

[ October 12, 2006, 07:42 PM: Message edited by: TOM64 ]

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