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Posted by Andy L (Member # 642) on September 30, 2006, 06:11 AM:
Its appearant that this is a bad time to try and lighten things up. I posted twice this morning with laughing faces and all at truely light spirted posts and got two snide answers right off the bat.
Yall keep your panties in a wad. Thats fine. Ill wait for the dust to clear. Hopefully Rich will make his post soon and put this thing to bed.
[ September 30, 2006, 06:56 AM: Message edited by: Andy L ]
Posted by Rich (Member # 112) on September 30, 2006, 06:30 AM:
" If they are hungry they will charge the call, if not they wont."
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Andy,
Where did you read that?
Posted by Andy L (Member # 642) on September 30, 2006, 06:41 AM:
Edited for raw nerves. Piss on it.
[ September 30, 2006, 06:57 AM: Message edited by: Andy L ]
Posted by NASA (Member # 177) on September 30, 2006, 08:25 AM:
Hang in there Andy, I think we're almost at the end of this road. There are only two choices left to be made, ie, clear the air, or, sweep it under the carpet. One is the manly way to resolve it and the other is the cowards way. Sit back and see who steps forward. This is where heros are made or flayed.
BTW, my answer to your question is: About 3 hours after their last meal. ![[Wink]](wink.gif)
[ September 30, 2006, 08:38 AM: Message edited by: NASA ]
Posted by TheHuntedOne (Member # 623) on September 30, 2006, 09:14 AM:
I relate them to my teanager. Hungry all the time unless he gets distracted by a girl.
One one hand, I like coyotes better.
They don't leave dirty dishes and you want them to breed.
Al
Posted by Rich Higgins (Member # 3) on September 30, 2006, 09:23 AM:
Al, that is classic. ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
Posted by Tim Behle (Member # 209) on September 30, 2006, 10:06 AM:
Al,
I was woken up one night last week by a noise in the kitchen. I got up to find one of my 17 year old boys making a six egg omelet just before midnight.
He said he woke up wanting a "Snack"
Posted by TheHuntedOne (Member # 623) on September 30, 2006, 10:41 AM:
LOL
Posted by albert (Member # 98) on October 01, 2006, 06:28 AM:
Always and never
Coyotes I believe are opportunistic. Always ready to eat but seldom hungry.
I can't remember skinning a thin coyote.
Posted by DAA (Member # 11) on October 01, 2006, 07:21 AM:
Yeah, I know they exist (mange, especially), but I've never seen a poorly coyote around here. And the biggest coyote I've ever killed, a 44 pounder, came to my jack rabbit call with a muzzle still slicked down and wet with blood from his last meal. It surely looked to me like he interupted a meal to come get in on the screaming bunny action.
I don't think most coyotes I call are really motivated by hunger. I'm sure it plays a part, and occasionally is the reason for the coyote that just comes streaking in like a lightning bolt. But I think more often, it's various amounts and combinations of curiousity, territoriality and probably the biggest factor - just plain old excitement. I think they just plain get amped up to sink their teeth into a warm screaming critter - whether they are hungry or not.
Or maybe not. Maybe hunger is THE driving force. Hell, I don't know...
- DAA
Posted by Cdog911 (Member # 7) on October 01, 2006, 07:33 AM:
I suspect that they're hungry just nanoseconds before they latch onto their mama's teat for the first time, and stay that way until they die. LOL
Seriously, I view coyotes as the consummate opportunistic omnivore; ready and willing to take and eat anything that won't eat them first. And, naturally endowed with the wiring of an eco-bioeconomist where they eat anything their environment offers up now just in case they might be hungry later. You just never know, and shit happens, even if you're a coyote. Personally, I'm of the school of thought that coyotes responding to calls do so more out of curiosity than anything else, and hunger is just the thing they need to convince themselves to check things out.
Posted by Norm (Member # 240) on October 01, 2006, 08:08 AM:
Tim, you are always wanting to get rid of them eggs...
Andy, it is my opinion, that coyotes are always hungry; Their approach to the call is often driven by proximity to the sound source.
i called three this morning in the back yard... one came charging, one came loping and one came trotting... different speeds to the same call, yet given that they didn't find anything to eat... they went on their way hunting the creosote bushes as they left...
Posted by Rich (Member # 112) on October 01, 2006, 08:23 AM:
Coyotes are sort of like me. They love to eat but contrary to the belief of a few folks, Coyotes often come to a call even when they AIN'T hungry. They are ornery buggers who love to kill things. ![[Cool]](cool.gif)
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on October 01, 2006, 08:54 AM:
You can call a coyote by wacking a hammer on a fence post, for the sake of curiosity.
However, I'll vote for hunger as the (primary) motivator, when using "prey" distress sounds.
Howls should elicit a territorial response, all things being equal?
What's the question, again?
Good hunting. LB
Posted by Lonny (Member # 19) on October 01, 2006, 10:45 AM:
I look at it as a combination of hunger, curiosity, and competiton, for reasons that coyotes respond to distress sounds. Hunger not necessarily being the top reason. Coyotes are pre-wired to take advantage of any situation that might benefit them, even if their belly is full. If that means beating your brother or sister to the sound, you win the prize, or die trying.
Posted by The Outdoor Tripp (Member # 619) on October 01, 2006, 11:25 AM:
Albert,
Come to south Texas, we endure periods of drought here that cut deep into just about everything coyotes eat. They do get a bit skinnier in these times. Very lean, not an extra ounce of fat on them but not emaciated.
That's what periods of up to 10 months without rain will do in these parts. Cottontail, fawn, quail, persimmon, etc. production all goes to hell.
However, the only really thin coyotes I've seen around here have been carrying mange and I've only seen a handful.
Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on October 01, 2006, 12:08 PM:
Just give it a little more time and you will be seeing more than just a hand full. Of course it dosent matter in texas from what i hear the fur there is'nt much good anyway. I'm glad that mange has run it's course here and and the coyotes are starting to look better every year.
Posted by The Outdoor Tripp (Member # 619) on October 01, 2006, 12:51 PM:
Boy you hit the nail on the head there.
In 15 years +/- calling south Texas I've only taken maybe 5 coyotes whose fur was worth saving.
Less than 2%.
Just thankful there are so many.
[ October 01, 2006, 12:51 PM: Message edited by: The Outdoor Tripp ]
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