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Posted by Doggitter (Member # 489) on November 09, 2005, 09:13 PM:
I'd like to hear about how long you guys have to wait while hunting to see a Coyote after howling. Reading the other post about howling is making me wonder that last year when I quit because I wasn't getting a response to my howling it was because I wasn't staying on stand long enough? A couple of the ones we called in last weekend with howling mixed in came in after I would have normally left. I think I'll reinstate howling just to test this out.
[ November 09, 2005, 09:19 PM: Message edited by: Doggitter ]
Posted by keekee (Member # 465) on November 10, 2005, 06:29 AM:
It just depends for me. If I know Im calling to coyotes for sure, I may stay for 1 hr. I would say though most of the time in the late season my stands run 30 min, and alot of the coyotes show at the 20 min mark or area for some reason. A Couple weeks ago I had one show at the 20 min mark after howling.
If Im just running a destress call then im out of there in 15 min most of the time. But with howling I stick around longer.
Brent
Posted by pup (Member # 90) on November 10, 2005, 06:40 AM:
Most of the time this area could produce a cat as well, so normally sit 30 to 45 minutes, some of that includes "cool down".
later pup
Posted by Greenside (Member # 10) on November 10, 2005, 07:41 AM:
Doggitter
I think the real key to get them coming in a hurry is the prey distress after the howling.
Dennis
Posted by Andy L (Member # 642) on November 10, 2005, 08:28 AM:
Im definitely no expert in howling, but heres my observations....
From now til February, I have seen mixed results with howling in conjunction with distress calls. I really dont know how effective it is. Never have tried it by itself. And, Im not sure if it enhances the stand over just using distress calls enough to make it worth while or not. Just havent had that much experience.
In February, it seems to work a little better. I suspect its due to pairing and mating.
I dont call after the first of March. Dont have too much data there. Last June I went out to help a farmer I hunt on quite a bit with a so called "calf killer". Howled one time and the coyote barked at 100 yards. I howled right back and it came charging out of there lookin for a fight. She got one too, from a 17Rem and a Airedale.... LOL...
Just thought I would throw in my limited experience with howling.
Andy
Posted by pup (Member # 90) on November 10, 2005, 11:29 AM:
The howling, along with the prey distress, has produced very good results here. Non-threatening howl used either before ,during or after prey distress. I think it adds realism to the stand , and we still get the chargers as with just distress stands. Just howls alone, (in my area)here has produced , but with limited success as described in the other thread. I almost howl at every stand and rarely only howl on stand. There are so many variables to consider, and most of them are determined by the coyotes themselves and as has been said they're not talking. I do know that, after I spent a little time gathering information from those here that I feel know, and reading material suggested and I started using the howls on stand appropiately , the success rate rose sharply. To me it was enough to warrant changing the routine.
Anyhow my thoughts for what they are worth.
later pup
Posted by Baldknobber (Member # 514) on November 10, 2005, 04:35 PM:
Last winter, I would stay about an hour when howling, and that seemed to pay off as I had some show up at the 30 to 40 minute mark. During summer denning, I have had them show up in less than a minute. This fall I've howled sparingly and had one large male show up after 30 minutes. Most times in mating season where I live I like to stay 30 minute minimum when howling.
Posted by UTcaller (Member # 8) on November 10, 2005, 07:20 PM:
I use a mix of howling and distress at most of my stands.We usually call in areas with alot of coyotes so staying on a stand to long can cut the numbers called down a bit.So very rarely do I stay much longer than 15 minutes at a given stand.That being said, in some of the areas I call that I know don't hold alot of coyotes,or the coyotes get hunted/called quite a bit I will stay up to 25-30 minutes.Good Hunting Chad
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