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Posted by 2dogs (Member # 649) on November 05, 2005, 07:18 PM:
I've read on a couple ecology/coyote sites. That the "pure" coyote will weigh 35lbs max, for a male.
Needless to say, some weigh more then that.
Q. In your opinion; When a coyote weighs 45lb's or more. What say you, as to [why]?
BTW, I'm not talkin about a 35lb male. That just scarfed down a 10lb house cat ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
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[ November 05, 2005, 07:28 PM: Message edited by: 2dogs ]
Posted by Andy L (Member # 642) on November 05, 2005, 07:35 PM:
Im not Q, by a long shot, but I would like to say something.
I hear all the time about these HUGE coyotes around here. People talk about coyotes going "every bit of 60 lb" and crap like that.
They may exist in some places, but I havent seen em.
A local feed store has a big coyote contest every winter. Lasts like 3 months. Seems that 37-38lb wins every time....
I think around here, those 60lb coyotes are like the 9' blacksnakes. Hear alot about em, but they never seem to surface....
Andy
Posted by Cdog911 (Member # 7) on November 05, 2005, 07:39 PM:
Genetics, diet, disease.
You could come up with a hundred different variables that contribute to the size of people, some of whom are small while others are "see above". Yet we still don't have a firm grasp of how big the maximum weight for a person might be.
Along that same line, coyotes are merely bio-organisms, like people, and I imagine that there is quite a range of variation. In short, making an absolute statement of that nature is awfully bold of them.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on November 05, 2005, 08:25 PM:
We have kicked the question around before.
I'm of the opinion that 35 pounds is a good sized coyote, but personally, I have never seen a coyote bigger than 39 pounds. Anything over 32 is a big coyote.
But, I have not been everywhere, so if they average a little bigger some places, that's fine. I'd just like to actually see one of
these monsters on a scale.
Not only that, I really can't understand exactly why they are a lot bigger, in the east?
Good hunting. LB
Posted by TheHuntedOne (Member # 623) on November 05, 2005, 10:08 PM:
Living in the east, I have seen and shot several coyotes over 50 pounds. I have also shot and seen several coyotes here that would be hard pressed to hit 35 pounds even after eating that 10 pound house cat.
There was a blurb on the NH Fish and Game Web site that refferenced studies that showed we had three distinct strains of coyotes in New England. One was the pure western coyote that migrated here, one was a cross between the grey wolf and coyote and one was a cross between the red wolf and coyote.
I think that in the north country, all that fur makes them seem really a lot bigger than they are sometimes too.
In a hard winter, they can devestate a deer yard. So they eat pretty good.
Pet shops here do a booming business. Lots of liberals that let Fluffy run free. Coyotes again eat pretty good.
But the real reason I think the coyotes in the east are bigger is because everyone knows that us guys in the east are lousy shots. You guys out west are taking cracks at them 300 yards and more. Poor things have to expend a lot of calories just trying to stay alive. Here in the east, the coyote doesn't expend half the energy getting away. They know we can't hit them over 50 yards so they just sort of stroll out of view. No expendature of calories so they get bigger.
In all honesty, I just think they eat better here in the east. Smaller woodlots, concentrated game, deep population explosions in some states, and just less work to find food.
Al
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Posted by 2dogs (Member # 649) on November 06, 2005, 04:16 AM:
I wonder really, just how many. If any at all, pure coyotes exist in this country:confused: .
Genetics...boy, what a can of worms trying to follow that trail. I've weighed some of my coyotes on a [Feed-Scale]. Specifically the larger ones[over 35lbs].
A couple of the larger ones. Didn't appear to me anyways, to be pure coyote. [According to "pure" coyote pic's].
I've never done this yet. But I plan on keeping a ledger, weigh-in & take pic's. Of all the large ones I tag this season.
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