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Rich Higgins
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posted December 06, 2004 03:48 PM
I know that we have discussed this before but it's worth looking at again. If you look at the photo I posted on the Dec club post you will see overcast sky, mud and Robbs wet truck. It rained off and on both days. Mostly light showers for ten minutes plus at a time. One moderate shower. Cold rain. We called all day first light to last light. Called in fifteen coyotes and not one of them came to a call while it was raining. We called proven honeyholes. Robb keeps records. Approaching one stand Robb said he had called in coyotes there on 17 stands out of 19. It showered. No coyotes. Same thing both days. Can't call sitting in the truck so we made stands in the rain. Coyotes only moved during lulls in the showers.
Thoughts?
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Leonard
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posted December 06, 2004 03:59 PM
I'd say that's a normal situation, Rich. I think it depends on the amount of rain. Sometimes, very light rain or drizzle, they run all day long. Other times, when the showers are of short duration, they wait it out, seems to me? Even if they are near, they might ignore the call?
One thing about it, rain showers seems to throw the time of day out the window, as far as heavy action in the morning followed by a long lull, until late afternoon. It doesn't seem to matter, they respond early afternoon, but maybe during the breaks in the showers. I know one thing, I will try and dodge the clouds as much as possible, and call where it isn't raining.
I find that the first stand immediately after it stops raining is very productive.
Good hunting. LB
edit: I have found that, yes you can; call coyotes, sitting out a heavy rain, in the cab of a truck.
[ December 06, 2004, 04:01 PM: Message edited by: Leonard ]
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Rich Higgins
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posted December 06, 2004 04:06 PM
Leonard, we think pretty much along the same line. I would really like to hear about calling coyotes from the truck in a heavy rain. Must be a story there.
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Leonard
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posted December 06, 2004 04:31 PM
Here's the deal, Rich.
Actually, the byword should be:
you can't call 'em unless you are calling!
If that means while eating your finger sandwiches and Latte in the truck, or perhaps while driving? In bad weather, I would drive with a call playing. They will sometimes stand up, where you can see them. You can keep driving, and make a stand just out of sight. Kicking coyotes out of culverts and washes when it's raining is hard work.
Good hunting. LB
edit:I don't have to warn you about flash floods. One time, if you know where Yucca is(?) we forded about twenty creeks going back down the mountain, that were only dips in the road, driving up. Good thing I had chains.
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Byron South
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posted December 06, 2004 09:50 PM
I also have never had any luck in the rain. I guide a few hunters and every year I will have a client or two booked during a rain. They always asked me if they think we'll do any good getting out and calling. I say nope, but if you want, we will try. Heck I get paid whether its raining or not. I will certainly agree with Leonard though. After a rain its almost always good. Especially if it has rained for several hours or days. This brings up another question. I have always heard that before, and after a front is always good. My experience has been that after a front is great, but before a front has been very spotty.
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keekee
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posted December 07, 2004 02:33 PM
Same here almost! As for calling in the rain, if its a hard rain, you seem to be waisting your time! If it is a slow drizzle or light rain, its great! Overcast days are some of my best days calling, even better at night.
As for hunting before a front and after. Both seem to be great. The coyote I posted a pic of last week was killed on the front end of a rain storm. In the winter, right before a snow storm is great calling and right after is great. And if we get 2-3 days of bad weather then when it breaks its awsome calling. Or even a big cold front, right before it sets in is some of the best calling. I also love to call in a light snow, the predators here seem to move all day in a light snow or realy cold weather.
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Leonard
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posted December 07, 2004 02:47 PM
I guess we sorted out your problem well enough, eh keekee?
I just looked at your web page, links to just about every hunting board.....
Good hunting. LB
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keekee
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posted December 07, 2004 04:17 PM
Yea, looks like it sofar! I havent got my hopes up yet....lol
I will see if I can add another link in few... ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif) Just never thought LB ![[Eek!]](eek.gif)
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Leonard
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posted December 07, 2004 04:58 PM
Oh gosh! Y'all thought I was HINTING, huh? ![[Roll Eyes]](rolleyes.gif)
Well, thanks, if you get to it, I would appreciate it.
Good hunting. LB
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keekee
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posted December 07, 2004 06:13 PM
Done deal LB! Got you fixed up with a link!
Brent
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Leonard
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posted December 07, 2004 07:17 PM
Brent,
How nice of you! I'm in your debt. Thank you.
Good hunting. LB
edit: ah, now, if I may be so bold; I should mention that I respectfully disagree with a few of your weather conditions. Only a few. Anything can happen, at any time, but some conditions are a lot more favorable than some others.
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keekee
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posted December 08, 2004 02:11 PM
I agree LB, But I didnt say I wouldnt hunt in the hard rain just that I never do any good in a hard rain.
Remember I hunted with Higgy, I dont think it has rained that hard here in 20 years!
This was right before we got drownded! I thought I still had this pic!
Brent
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Rich Higgins
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posted December 08, 2004 04:39 PM
I remember that, Brent. Making raincoats and camera covers out of plastic trash bags.
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keekee
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posted December 08, 2004 04:41 PM
Yep! Nothen better than a trash bag rain coat!
When I didnt watch the weather channel and get the forcast. Left the high dollar rain suit at the house!
edit...That makes me look real good in front of the wife! Spend all that money on a high dollar rain suit and come home wet!
Brent
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posted December 10, 2004 08:02 AM
Yep, it seems that coyotes are more active just after a good rain shower. I have always thought that it was because scent spores are washed of dust and are fresher. The scent of wet fur (rabbit, pack rat, etc) is more pronounced, as is the smell of earth and sage just after a rain.
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Leonard
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posted December 10, 2004 08:09 AM
That is called a "Mexican Raincoat" around these parts.
Got any more pics of you guys modeling your Mexican Raincoats?
Good hunting. LB
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Jay Nistetter
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posted December 10, 2004 11:15 AM
Couldn't figger it out.
Are you still fooling with that sheep?
Anyways... for the most part rain here in Arizona isn't what the rest of the country calls rain. Mostly a mist to a very light drizzle. You never know when it will lighten up. There are lulls and that seems to produce real well on coyote so they must be coming in the slightly heavier parts. Can't recall ever calling in a fox or bobcat in a drizzle.
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Leonard
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posted December 10, 2004 11:30 AM
Hey Brother Jay. Maybe one day I might share with you a secret to calling cats in the rain. It can be done.
Good hunting. LB
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keekee
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posted December 10, 2004 01:39 PM
Sorry LB, Thats the only Pic I took before we headed out to get wet! That wet stuff is hard on the camera and video equipment to!
Mexican Rain Coat!....LMAO....!
Brent
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Tim Behle
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posted December 10, 2004 05:50 PM
I'm with Jay on this one. That sure doesn't look like a trashbag in Rich's lap. It looks like that inflatable sheep of Byron's!
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Jay Nistetter
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posted December 10, 2004 07:38 PM
Look like he's got a helluva choke hold on it too Tim.
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Rich Higgins
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posted December 11, 2004 05:38 AM
You guys trouble me.
I've actually been alone in the desert with each of you. Beginning to think I may have dodged a bullet there.
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Bud/OR
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posted December 26, 2004 05:06 PM
In my neck of the woods, nearly rain forest, a warm spring or summer rain will almost always find animals out feeding. This is during solunar periods, or not. When cold weather hits, cold rain that is, followed by cold and dry, I have almost never found animals out of cover. I have never been able to call them out of cover, solunar periods or not. I think they have sense enough to know that getting soaked through during cold weather is a probable death sentence.
By the same token, When they have laid up for a day or so and kept dry and the weather breaks clear, Get out your calls and let the shooting begin, solunar periods or not.
By the way, I am a solunar table deciple. And...A trash-bag rain-suit? I don't leave home without camo raingear, and this is in July. Must be an Oregon thing.
Good hunting.
Bud
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