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Posted by Jerry Rice (Member # 78) on September 18, 2004, 06:31 PM:
What makes a coyote hard to call in on a windy day?? I just got back from a coyote hunt and when it was calm we could call in a coyote at almost every stand but when it got windy, and I mean WINDY, we could not call in anything. Whats up here guys???
Jerry
Posted by Cdog911 (Member # 7) on September 18, 2004, 06:51 PM:
Jerry,
I've called a few in on days so windy I probably should have been doing something else but I was so eager to hunt, I figured what the hell.
Anyway, their responses are usually slow and somewhat awkward, almost confused at times, and I think it's because the wind has hampered all three of their primary senses, and at least two severely. They can't hear as well to pinpoint the origin of the sound. Scent is so dispursed that it's very difficult for them to smell anything. And, in our grasslands, a decent wind has all the grass waving and moving so that even their ability to detect movement is compromised. I've had them come in, most certainly, but they almost always come from downwind - even moreso than usual - which is a good way to look because there's little chance my squeals will penetrate very far in any other direction. Just my thoughts.
Posted by Rich Higgins (Member # 3) on September 18, 2004, 11:44 PM:
I agree with Cdog. Since the danger detection abilities of all three senses are reduced, I believe that their confidence zones are equally diminished. I don't try to move them any distance, rather move in on them and set up as close as possible to where I believe they are. I stay on stand several minutes longer also.
[ September 18, 2004, 11:44 PM: Message edited by: Rich Higgins ]
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on September 19, 2004, 11:06 AM:
I wonder if hunting the downwind and misting would help?
Posted by Greenside (Member # 10) on September 19, 2004, 12:07 PM:
I think that calling in windy conditions can still be productive, but it does take a little different approach. Like Rich say's, it might be that you have to get a little closer or tighter to the coyote. Instead of calling from the top to the bottom, you might have to get in the bottom and call the bottom. Also calling with a Carlton bell or other type megaphone can direct the sound more efficiently to areas that you might think would hold coyotes. And for me, windy conditions can be the best excuse to call with the wind to your back.
Dennis
Posted by Az-Hunter (Member # 17) on September 19, 2004, 03:37 PM:
Im a bit more simplistic in my opinion concerning wind and coyotes. I think they are just like the deer,birds,my horses,dogs and me for that matter...they just lay up in a hard wind, and snooze till all is better the next day.
You've got that negative/positive ion thing going on during windy days, and most any critter I can think of just sits it out. I prefer the easy chair or the loading bench and wait till the next good day after a rain or wind storm, then can just about bet, I'll knock hell out of them!
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on September 19, 2004, 06:24 PM:
Yeah, sounds great, Vic. But, what about those windy places? Also, say it's a contest and you drove a ways, and you have to hunt? I say it's time for some visual work, and hunt the downwind, when you have a good perch.
Good hunting. LB
Posted by rooster32 (Member # 61) on September 19, 2004, 06:58 PM:
Interested to hear the replys on this. I went out this past weekend UT/NV boarder and the wind was howling. The sound just wasn't carrying very far at all and that area is wide open. We did half a dozen stands and came home a day early.
Posted by Cdog911 (Member # 7) on September 19, 2004, 07:07 PM:
Yeah, sure Leonard. Misting on a windy day. LMAO. I tried that when I was new to the idea. Can you say, "Back eddies"? Danged neart gassed myself once and spent the next five minutes trying to get the pee outta my eyes. That stuff can be as bad as pepper spray at times. On the other hand, it only takes one good back draft to gain a full appreciation for misting's potential effectiveness. ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
Just kidding. If the wind's bad, I move low into the creeks and timbers, move into the wind making short stands, walking much shorter distances and using the terrain and trees to cover my advancements. If I'm out in the wide open range country, call downwind until I just plain give up. Can't say I've had equal luck on windy days as I do on the good ones,but I've killt fur before in the wind. And if you don't or won't hunt the wind anywhere in KS west of my front porch, you just don't plan on hunting much.
Posted by Basil Banghart (Member # 380) on September 19, 2004, 07:31 PM:
I was out today in a pretty intense wind. I only saw one coyote and it popped up directly downwind of me at 200 yards plus. Danged dog 'bout turned inside out getting away. There was a reasonable amount of sign to lead me to believe that there was a good population in the area. Out of approximately 6 stands and only the one coyote, I decided to go home.
Posted by onecoyote (Member # 129) on September 19, 2004, 08:28 PM:
Yeah, thats why I like the nic onecoyote lol. ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on September 19, 2004, 10:15 PM:
Lance, that's a rookie mistake, getting doused with your own "back eddy". In the wind, hold the bottle out at arms length, sideways.
Good hunting. LB
edit: BTW, that's good advice, find sheltered spots. Sometimes, an entire mountain can act as a shield; and that may be where your quarry is? Also, hunt the lulls between the gusts.
[ September 19, 2004, 10:17 PM: Message edited by: Leonard ]
Posted by Jerry Rice (Member # 78) on September 20, 2004, 07:02 AM:
We had a steady 15++ mph wind with gusts to 35++ mph. The day before it was calm and we called in 10 coyotes on 12 stands so the coyotes were there but we could not get them to come in.
Jerry
Posted by jerry (Member # 195) on September 25, 2004, 09:28 PM:
About two years ago A friend of mine and i went out , I had promised him i would take him calling . It was blowing hard 20 to 30 M.P.H. we called in and killed 6 coyotes that day . All came in early on and all came in hard . Never has happened since . Go figure . Maybe ill have to take Tom with me more often !!! When i blows hard around here ----- I stay at home with momma and do some cuddling .
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