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Posted by Tyler H (Member # 383) on August 28, 2004, 09:48 AM:
this morning as I coaxed a bobcat halfway up the side of a small mountain. I watched it come out of a wash down below us and it slowly and steadily walked up the hillside sticking to cover. It was a dark reddish brown. Most that I see around here are greyish.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on August 28, 2004, 09:55 AM:
Wait a sec. Are you telling me that you called a bobcat..... uphill ?
That's quite an accomplishment.
Good hunting. LB
Posted by Az-Hunter (Member # 17) on August 28, 2004, 12:41 PM:
I wouldn't fret Leonard, the reddish color described sounds like one of those suburban cats...a cross with a common city house cat aptly called, a "Bobmese" cat.
Curious as to whether this kitty was called in by klinking a table spoon against the side of an empty Fancy Feast can? All those predators around the Higgins suburban digs, seem to react in a manner totally unfamilar to those of us who hunt the western wild varieties:)
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on August 28, 2004, 01:23 PM:
Yeah, I know, Vic.
In fact, once, (by accident, I think?) he mentioned that he recognizes most of them, some even have names.
I can tell you one thing. I was standing out in his driveway, earlier this year, and he heard a howl. He grabbed my howler and answered, and in less than a minute, an adult coyote, (Floyd, I found out later) crossed over to our side of the road, down in the next yard.....Kibbles and Bits, Kibbles and Bits! Come and get it!
Bet those things don't happen down in McNeal, any more? At least in broad daylight.
See, this is what can happen when you don't kill those coyotes, and instead, make them into movie stars.
Oh well, more for us. LB
Posted by onecoyote (Member # 129) on August 28, 2004, 07:03 PM:
I've never called a cat uphill, don't mean it can't be done I just never done it lol.
Posted by 22-250 (Member # 36) on August 28, 2004, 08:33 PM:
Daylight calling in San Diego, I called in three bobcats to one stand. The first one came in cross wind out of a small canyon. The second and third both came from upwind out of a large canyon. Both came uphill. I was able to only get two of the them. The first one and third one.(my only double in cats)
Posted by Tyler H (Member # 383) on August 28, 2004, 09:59 PM:
I didn't mean to post under Tyler's name. He didn't log out and I didn't notice until now. Yeah Leonard, that's why I thought about you. I'm glad you remember ol' Floyd. He still comes 'round now and then.
Vic, yup that was Sylvester alright and he did come to the Puss & Boots can being opened. But he did come uphill. ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
Posted by Greenside (Member # 10) on August 29, 2004, 06:30 AM:
I've heard you guys talk about this in the past. When you say uphill, how much grade or incline are you talking. Am I right in assuming that it's fairly steep?
Dennis
[ August 29, 2004, 06:32 AM: Message edited by: Greenside ]
Posted by onecoyote (Member # 129) on August 29, 2004, 06:46 AM:
Yep Dennis, you're right. Out of steep canyons is what I'm talking about. I see 22-250 has done it, but I never have. I think most bobcats are lazy and don't want to work hard for dinner lol. I've also never seen a bobcat in a tree. It's not like I've never hunted or killed cats before, just never experienced a couple things is all lol. ![[Frown]](frown.gif)
Posted by NASA (Member # 177) on August 29, 2004, 07:58 AM:
Danny, I'm sure I've told the story before, but the first bobcat I ever shot was asleep in a tree when I first spotted it.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on August 29, 2004, 01:34 PM:
Blanket statements always bite you in the ass. It's my own fault that I cannot express myself so that I'm understood.
Both Greenside and Danny are on to the concept. Of course, I knew that Danny would be.
Uneven ground, rocky foothills, etc. A cat is going to approach a stand without consideration; does he have to climb a grade? Yes, he will. Seen it a number of times, myself. Especially daytime and, as often as not, while being back doored.
Uphill is a vague term.
Consider this. You have a 2,000 foot mountain, and you make your stand half way up, perhaps a thirty degree grade, both ways. Think a deep cut, twisting mining road.
I have called and seen a number of bobcats, high and low. The low ones, they could be three or four hundred yards away, and if they are moving, they are moving sideways, after observing for a while, they either lose interest all together, or reach a certain point and won't budge another inch. Mostly, you spot one that has moved into the open, or hopped on a rock for a better view. These animals (in my experience) won't come to the call.
On the other hand, you can readily call a bobcat down from the top of the mountain, behind you, even if he knows you are there.
And, surprisingly, if that hung up cat, (below you) after an hour of coaxing, who hasn't come an inch closer, were to stay put.... in full view, you can walk or drive down there, and likely shoot him.
My statement refers primarily to mountain hunting. It has become expedious to shoot them where they are, rather than try to work them.
Another technique is to pick up and leave. Coming back an hour later, you can (sometimes) find a bobcat nosing around very close to where you made your stand.
....which sounds like you could call them, in that case; but I have not had success, doing that? I feel that I know how to pull bobcat out of the mountains, and that's my advice. Take it or leave it.
The difference between the eagarness in which a cat will decend a steep grade, and the reluctance to ascend the same type of grade, is a total mystery.
Good hunting. LB
edited for clarity
[ August 29, 2004, 01:41 PM: Message edited by: Leonard ]
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on August 29, 2004, 08:04 PM:
Don't forget, I could be totally full of crap. You fellas (please) don't be reluctant to disagree, if you do. We don't have to agree with what I think. I'd rather argue about it, than have everybody clam up. Might learn something?
Good hunting. LB
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