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bearmanric
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posted August 11, 2004 06:15 PM
Yes there coyote's in washington. got this one opening day of bear. Krusty give me a hard time. I told him keep at it.Rick
[ August 11, 2004, 06:16 PM: Message edited by: bearmanric ]
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Bofire
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posted August 11, 2004 06:23 PM
That is a nice pic, smart alec!!LOL
I am ready to go back up week after this one.
Let me know
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Yellerdog
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posted August 11, 2004 07:06 PM
Unless that was the last one! ![[Eek!]](eek.gif) Now there won't be any left for Krusty or Bofire! ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
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Rich Higgins
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posted August 11, 2004 09:25 PM
It can be tough calling timber like that. You did well Rick.
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bearmanric
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posted August 11, 2004 09:48 PM
thank's Rich it is hard. that coyote I will remember for a long time. it was awsome I called it with my axis antler call sweet sound and lip squeaked it into the opening. love calling dont useaully shoot in the summer. coyote's are bad here now there's something every day in the new's now cougar, bear or coyote. just like calfornia. like you guy's it's urban animal's. thing's are out of balance. Rick
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Leonard
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posted August 11, 2004 10:24 PM
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just like calfornia. like you guy's it's urban animal's. thing's are out of balance. Rick
Rick, interesting comment. I went to see the Tom Cruise movie "Collateral" today. Entire movie takes place in downtown Los Angeles. In one scene, a couple coyotes are crossing the street. None of the actors, nor anybody in the audience displayed any reaction....except me. ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
Good hunting. LB
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bearmanric
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posted August 13, 2004 04:49 PM
Rich and Leonard it's bad here in Washington. I live in olympia. the anti's are terrible. you guy's my neigbor is Wolf Haven international. guess were there Red wolf's go. to Arizona they have a breeding program going on. glad it didnt work out to well. but yes this year seem's to be worse ive ever seen on coyote problem's. it's getting interesting. Rick
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Rich Higgins
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posted August 13, 2004 05:49 PM
Rick, do you know where in Az. the red wolves are being sent? The only program the public is told about is the mexican greywolf reintroduction. What kind of coyote problems are you seeing in Olympia? Just the typical urban complaints or something else?
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posted August 13, 2004 06:15 PM
It's cool that you sealed the deal with one of your own calls, Rick. That always makes it better.
What is it with urban coyotes? I guess I don't understand the laws pertaining to the bigger cities. Is it a firearm thing, or are they actually protected in a specific area beyond the city limits?
We don't see a lot of "anti" activity in these smaller communities. Bozeman would probably be the closest group and I don't think they're very extreme at that. Unless a one man band like Ted Turner buying up all the hunting land in the area for his wildlife refuge can be considered extreme, which it is, but a matter of definition.
Guess I'll have to see Collateral, nothing like a movie with a coyote cameo.
Brad
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bearmanric
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posted August 13, 2004 06:53 PM
Rich it is mexican something it's the one's that crossed over into New Mexico and was killing cattle. it was a couple year's ago. two week's ago a older lady was trapped in her house the coyote was on her deck. she was trying to go to work. and a dog got mauled downtown. the anti's said it was possum's. yet they were hearing the coyote's Howling at night. lot's of pet's getting killed. it is just some in the paper or new's a couple time's a week. I like the one were they were trying to trap the one's in california in the houseing development with the protester's. my niece was just here from Tuscon. she had one of the Sabino canyon Cougar's riding her horse's back. my friend's an acd guy and he said it's the pup.s and parent's right now. he said there like a month bigger than normal. that make's sense I think. Rick
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Krustyklimber
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posted August 14, 2004 08:39 AM
Rick,
Red and I only gave ya a hard time about leaving it in the woods... until I called the one coyote up at The Bullet Stump stand.
I wouldn't even have bothered to drag it out of the bushes, if Mydog's fur looked like that I'd take her to the vet (it was probably one of them sick ones, with the white worms in it's scat).
That, and once you mentioned what your 270 had done, at 30 yds, I figure you were lucky to get a nice clean photo out of the deal.
I tend to agree with the older babies this year, the fawns we have seen seem a lot older than they should be at this point in the year.
Yellerdog,
Not to worry for me, I have pretty much given up on the idea of killing any coyotes. I am satisfied to sit 50 yds upwind, calling, and let my brother miss em.
Rich,
That's in the "wide open stuff", up in the thinned timber. LOL
No really, Rick is pretty dang good at spotting game.
Yeah it's typically just ordinary urban coyote stuff, but the general public around here justifies it... "well the coyotes are just doing what comes naturally"
That's funny I didn't know they naturally got fat on dog food left on back porches, and domestic pets.
There will be a news story once a month or so about a problem with some coyotes, here or there... and some fairly aggressive behavior too.
In an upscale neighborhood on Tacoma's waterfront, coyotes have been so bold as to take a small dog and it's leash away from the little old man that was trying to keep ahold of it, in broad daylight, on the waterfront walking path.
They even came back for a cameo appearance on one of the news channels, watching all the activity from up on the bluff behind.
Brad,
Yeah it's a firearms thing.
As far as firearms use, not hardly.
The area used up by a big city and it's surrounding smaller cities and towns, is staggering. when you have three or four big cities that bump into eachother it's that much worse.
Here the ubran sprawl runs in a narrow strip between the Puget Sound and the Cascade Mountain Range, some 40-70 miles wide, and about 150 miles long.
I live in West Seattle, about 1/2 mile from the water, pretty much in the center of it all.
If I go due east, I have to go 26 miles before I reach an area where I can use a shotgun.
Another 12 miles drive out I-90 gets me to the rifle area (and prime lion, bobcat and black bear country). But I am still hopscotching around small towns and other firearms restrictions areas.
If I go south I have to drive nearly 100 miles before I'd find anywhere right down the center of the I-5 corridor that I could use a shotgun, and even there I'd have to travel some miles east or west to reach a centerfire area.
Same thing going north, pretty much all the way to Canada.
That's a big area that nobody (without an ADC license) can shoot any kind of a gun at, set traps for, or otherwise do anything to have any effect on lowering coyote populations.
I am pretty sure in my county, due to an ambiguously written animal cruelty act, that even killing a coyote with a bow might be considered a crime (because it could bleed to death).
It's pup migration time soon.... my only chance, around here, is on the freeway (and even there I only see a road killed coyote once a year or so).
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Leonard
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posted August 14, 2004 08:43 AM
upscale Tacoma?
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Krustyklimber
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posted August 14, 2004 09:11 AM
Leonard,
Yeah maybe that is an oxymoron.
Point Defiance... across the harbor, and north (upwind). ![[Wink]](wink.gif)
Actually now that the Asarco Smelters is closed down, and the Warehauser paper mill moved, Tacoma doesn't smell half bad.
They cleaned the place up pretty good.
Rich,
And anyone else keeping track of sub-species, from a list that you (Rich) once showed us this would be a pacific northwest coastal coyote (I think that was it).
They seem more abundant than their cousins, the Mtn coyote, but they also just plain live a more isolated life (farther away from the cities), and enjoy the protection of several indian reservations, and a National Park, and in this one's case the milder climate, and lower elevations of the western slopes of the Olympic Pennisula.
Krusty
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Leonard
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posted August 14, 2004 10:01 AM
Yeah, Tacoma seems to be the "South/Central" of Washington State? Why my only sister chooses to live there, I'll never understand? However, she's armed and dangerous; a necessity, perhaps?
Good hunting. LB
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Lonny
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posted August 15, 2004 08:34 AM
Krusty, I find it interesting that you are so shocked and appalled at the way a summer coyote looks. That is exactly the way a summer killed coyote is going to look. A July/August coyote is always going to look completely different than a December coyote fur wise.
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Krustyklimber
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posted August 15, 2004 09:59 AM
Lonny,
Shocked and appalled might be a little too strong...
I don't expect them to "fur up" like a North Dakota coyote in the dead of winter... and the one I saw did not look as nice as the one Rick shot and pictured here.
Rick's coyote looks a lot better than the one I called, I really believe the one I called was diseased.
I could see patches of skin through it's sparse fur, and it looked emaciated, with crust around it's eyes, and an overall dull look to it.
The coyotes I saw last year, near there, all looked 100 times better than the one I saw this year.
Krusty
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