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Posted by albert (Member # 98) on January 30, 2004, 08:05 PM:
Where is your favorite place to shoot a coyote? I have always assumed that the chest was the best place just behind the leg if it presented it self. Now I am starting to wonder a friend of my phoned the sierra hot line and they told him to use a blitz type bullet and shoot it in the shoulder (for a .223). I remember someone else saying that they aimed for the shoulder because there was more meat there and it would stop a bullet from over penetrating or something along that line. I have always been concerned that this shot would give a few more runners as I have seen more than one coyote make a hasty exit on three legs. I suspect caliber and bullet style might influence this.
I have noticed that the more coyotes that I have shot the more inclined that I have been to go bigger. I am fairly certain that the combination I use now could be counted on to penetrate past the shoulder joint if I happened to hit it (22-250 with 55 grain sierras or my 6br with 70 grain b-tips). I have been meaning to try 55gr b-tips in my 6br mainly because it does cause the odd large exit hole at close range (under a 100 yards) when shot through the rib cage. I am thinking maybe I should stay with the 70 grain and try for the shoulder at close range. Think that it will work?
Where do you aim? And what combination do you use?
Posted by Tim Behle (Member # 209) on January 30, 2004, 08:13 PM:
Just my opinion, but if you are hunting for fur. Don't hit the shoulder. Hitting it causes bullets to blow up and make a big mess. It also causes many coyotes to run away never to be seen again.
I aim just behind the front legs, for the lungs. With everything from a 17 Remington up to a 300 Tomahawk.
Posted by Rich Higgins (Member # 3) on January 30, 2004, 09:15 PM:
Albert, we've hit coyotes on the shoulder with BTs and V-Maxs in our 223s and we won't be doing that again. I do shoot them anywhere with the 1365 bullet in our 223s with absolute confidence. As Tim said shoulder shots usually ain't pretty.
This year I've been shooting 75 Vmaxs in my 6mmJDJ and it doesn't much matter where I hit them, they go down. I've hit some runners a bit far back and they stil go flop. I hit a runner 3 weeks ago at 405 yards and it went 10 yards and died on it's feet. I aim at what they present. I've made a few head shots this year and took some middle of the chest standing dead on looking at me. I only shoot them for club hunts and I don't want to chase or lose wounded. I haven't yet with that combo.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on January 31, 2004, 06:44 AM:
In an attempt to be diplomatic, something at which I routinely fail, let me say that, in my opinion, you got some bogus advice, Albert.
With apologies to our friend, Jay, the only one I recall, that favors such a placement; I think you will be better served with a center of mass placement, ie: ribcage.
If Sierra is handing out that sort of advice, they should find someone else to answer the phone. Oh, I was going to be diplomatic, huh?
I know that you hunt fur. A shoulder placement offers no advantage that I'm aware of, regardless of the bullet and caliber. Okay, maybe he won't run very far, if you consider that an advantage? But, slightly behind the shoulder, he will be dead, and if the bullet stays inside or passes through, there may be little damage to the pelt.
Don't let anyone confuse you, you are doing the right thing.
Good hunting. LB
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