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Posted by Lonny (Member # 19) on January 17, 2004, 01:42 PM:
How often do you call in another coyote after you have already called one in and killed it, or missed it, at the same stand using a prey distress sound?
It seems most of what you hear about after the kill is to save the high fives,hugs,and backslappin' for after the stand is offically over. Chamber another round,stay still,and keep calling. Get ready for the next coyote to run you over.
I have had very few times that after the shot that another coyote has come in to distress sounds. I tend to think that after hearing a distress sound, and than a shot, "most" coyotes on the way to the call would know that its bad for business to keep going that direction. Maybe its just me, or my area?
Coyote in distress sounds and howling might be a totally different deal? I'm interested in who has success bringing in more coyotes with distress sounds after a shot has been fired at the stand in the daylight. How often does this scenario happen to you?
Thanks
Posted by Lone Howl (Member # 29) on January 17, 2004, 04:48 PM:
Lonny,
In my areas it happens a LOT! The coyotes here are used to hearing all kinds of racket from farm machinery and duck hunting(shooting)and they dont seem to be to gunshy.
When I call these areas, I never stop calling after shooting one or two coyotes. Weve had as many as 4 dogs on the ground and more coming in(no lie).
One particular setup I like to do here is setup 75-100 yards away from a dry reservoir,which we have a lot here, and call facing towards the berm. Coyotes love hunting down in them and they are easy to spot when they pop up over the berm.Usually they will stand there a bit, then come on in. Alot of times, there are several coyotes down in there messing around and they will start popping up over the berm one by one.We will shoot them as they come off the berm and never stop calling untill we think our luck has run out.
I really only use the "kiyi" sound if I call a pair or more in and shoot one.Most times it will stop one or all of the others for another shot.
Posted by Curt2u (Member # 74) on January 18, 2004, 08:21 AM:
Lonny, my experience is similar to yours. I always continue calling after the shot and only a few times a season do I have other coyotes come in after one has been taken. It's really cool when it happens. I've had 4 come in, one after another and lot's of singles show up after one has been shot but like I said it only happens a few times a season. In fact this year has been one of the better years of calling in awhile and I can only think of 2 stands where I had another coyote show after the first shot. Many times a pair of coyotes will come together and almost always the second coyote takes off like a rocket as soon as the first shot is fired. There is no standing around, even early in the season.
I know in some areas it is very common to have repeat customers. I wish we had coyotes like that here but we don't. One shot and the stand is normally over around here.
Take care, Curt
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on January 18, 2004, 10:32 AM:
Put it this way. It happens enough to make it worthwhile. Especially if you dump one early in the stand. Regardless, you should wait a few minutes longer, even if you kill a coyote late in the stand.
I admit, there are places where I almost never get multiple responses, and I don't do much more than scan the horizon, but other places, these animals are in close proximity with eachother, and you are losing out if you break off a stand before giving a mate a chance to respond.
Good hunting. LB
Posted by Cdog911 (Member # 7) on January 18, 2004, 01:36 PM:
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Posted by albert (Member # 98) on January 18, 2004, 09:17 PM:
I agree, stay there and call as soon as you can after the shot make a loud distress sound make them forget about the shot. It is not often that you can call back the second one of a pair that has been shot at but it does happen occasionally. I feel that you will have a better chance of shooting a second one if only a single shows up. Keep calling that how you get doubles and triples.
Posted by DAA (Member # 11) on January 19, 2004, 05:40 AM:
My luck is about the same as yours it sounds like Lonny. I pretty much always stick to the formula, and keep calling for another 5 minutes after the shot, but it isn't very often at all that another coyote shows. It does happen once in awhile though, so I keep operating that way.
- DAA
Posted by Greenside (Member # 10) on January 19, 2004, 07:31 AM:
Lance
I'm not too sure I'd put much weight in that hypothesis. On a different day you might have just the opposite, all 6 coming head over heels trying to beat the others to the rabbit. Maybe that smaller one was just a bit more hungry? Who knows?
Dennis
Posted by Rich (Member # 112) on January 19, 2004, 08:02 AM:
I agree with Greenside I guess. In most cases, it is the most agressive coyote that comes in first. As for staying on stand after the first one is down, I would have to say it is almost always a good idea to keep on calling for a few minutes. Gun shots don't seem to bother the coyotes unless you are shooting at them. They must think that the big boom was just thunder or something.
Posted by Rich Higgins (Member # 3) on January 19, 2004, 11:57 AM:
At the first Predatormasters hunt, two years ago I called in six coyotes on the first stand. Lochi shot four rounds and Paul Wait shot twice. I kept calling and the coyotes kept coming and Lochi and Paul kept shooting. That wasn't uncommon up until two years ago. Doesn't happen much here anymore.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on January 19, 2004, 12:18 PM:
Dang, Rich! Lost your Mojo , eh? Well, keep working at it.
Judging by the response you are getting on the "Buddy Hunt", you could almost afford to quit your day job.
By the way, who won that tri hunt?
Good hunting. LB
Posted by Rich Higgins (Member # 3) on January 19, 2004, 04:13 PM:
Leonard, that may be the answer. Coyote numbers are still up, just everyone has lost their Mojo.
I don't know who took most points. They'll let us know at the next meeting.Tyler and I turned in three coyotes. I don't know if anyone took more than that. Doesn't matter. We knew we weren't in the running when we saw the bobcats laid out. Coyotes are worth ten points at these hunts and bobcats are worth sixty.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on January 19, 2004, 06:08 PM:
Rich, I think we have talked about that before. It's a screwed system you are dealing with.
Over on this side of the river, we rate coyotes at 9 points, and bobcat at 12. Under our old system, going back some twenty years, it was 8 points for a coyote and 15 for a cat. I think everybody agrees that the current point spread makes more sense.
Yours, on the other hand? Needs some fixing, pal.
Good hunting. LB
edit: PS our system awards 100 points for a lion. However. Checking in with a lion is never a guarantee of success.
[ January 19, 2004, 06:10 PM: Message edited by: Leonard ]
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