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Topic: Has The Hunting Language changed?
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onecoyote
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posted January 15, 2004 06:13 PM
Have you guys noticed no more outdoors, it's now the outback. And to think all these years I thought the outback was in Australia. Another one that hits a little closer to us, for years we said ( making stands ) now they say sets, where did that one come from? I thought trappers did sets. Maybe you guys can add a few more, I know they are out there lol.
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Q-Wagoner
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posted January 15, 2004 06:43 PM
For me I will always be making stands in the outdoors. “For “coyotes” none the less. It would be cool though for me and one of my homies to go make a few sets in the outback and bust some dogs. Yo word up. LOL
Good hunting.
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bucksnort
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posted January 15, 2004 06:51 PM
How about, "I bagged two coyotes today?" Do you just run up and stuff them in a bag? Only somebody from New York will say that. ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
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Cdog911
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posted January 15, 2004 07:08 PM
[ February 20, 2004, 02:33 PM: Message edited by: Cdog911 ]
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Q-Wagoner
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posted January 15, 2004 07:13 PM
LOL that would be funny.
Good hunting.
Q,
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Tim Behle
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posted January 15, 2004 08:10 PM
Danny,
Never been to the Outback, But it's my oldest son's favorite restaurant.
But if I set for coyotes, you can bet I'll be back to check my steel first thing the next morning.
You need to get the hell out of California and get reacquainted with the real world.
Tim
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onecoyote
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posted January 16, 2004 03:39 PM
Is there a real world? I moved out of California once, to the OUTBACK of Idaho lol. Moved to a town of about 200 and was surrounded by 2.2 million acres of National Forest. Most of the people there were outlaws hiding from something or someone. Being a true westerner that I am, I kinda fit right in. Then I found out they had their last gun fight in the street only 20 years ago. Nobody there had a vocabulary of more than three words that all started with F. I also found out the doctor came to town once a month if he wasn't too drunk. Also, you had to send any money you made with the postman to the nearest town 75 miles away, no bank in our town, couldn't trust anybody. The town had one sheriff who would only arrest you if you shot someone. My wife said it was time to leave lol, so we did, back to California and the wholesome home town of Roy Rogers.
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Tim Behle
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posted January 16, 2004 05:42 PM
So what's wrong with that?
Wouldn't it have been easier just to get a new wife?
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Leonard
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posted January 16, 2004 06:27 PM
I'm a guilty of a couple.
I sometimes say: "the bush" like Ruark or Hemingway, in darkest Africa.
And, I use the term "walkabout" to describe a hike while hunting.
So sue me, Tim! ![[Smile]](smile.gif) Good subject, BTW.
Good hunting. LB
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John/Alaska
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posted January 17, 2004 11:05 AM
I use sets & stands interchangeably. Being both a trapper & a caller to me there isn't much difference. But then I'm around trappers & others that use the same lingo all of the time.
Outback?? Yep been to one of those resturants too but not the the Outback in Australia. To me the "outback" means the outhouse in the back. I use the term "bush" all of the time as that is the common term for the country that I live in. Heck I walk out the door and I'm in the bush. If I used "outback" here they would asked where the crapper was! Me thinks them kalfornians needed a sexier term for the outdoors and decided outback sounded tougher.
I admit to using the term "walkabout". Yes its a new term but it best describes one of the things that I love to do. That is I am continually roaming the bush here. Exploring new places. Seeing what kind of adventures that I can have along the way. My wife thinks it best describes what I do as I usually have no set plan or mountain or drainage that I'm taking when I head out. I do alot of walkabouts!
But then here "outside" means out of Alaska and "the lower 48" means the contiguous US. And the term "real" world also means the lower 48 but for reasons that are strange to me!
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Leonard
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posted January 17, 2004 12:03 PM
I'm not a purist, on language usage, but "set" doesn't seem anywhere near correct. But, hey, it's your set, not mine!
Good hunting. LB
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Barndog
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posted January 20, 2004 12:17 PM
I've been to the Australian outback, and they don't call em dogs they are dingos and you'll have to hunt them in nort western Australia, because there is a fence twice as long as the China wall across the desert to keep the dingos out of south Australia. "Billabong" we've seen all the kids wearing T-shirts with Billabong, well a Billabong is an oxbow lake wich is really swamp water near a river, due to the river changing directions. They also call a pickup a UTE short for utility vehicle. And the toilet bowl water does not swirl the other way. It just goes down, turbo suck. Man do they know how to build a toilet, I don't even think they sell plungers there. Australia is fun to hunt, boars, dingos, kangaroos, wallabee just to name a few. Gotta becareful of the snakes, spiders and Emu's. Emu's run wild down there and are very curious, had one chase me in my car about 30 miles/hour trying to peek the paint off. One more thing during magpie matting season, magpies have been known to attack peoples heads. The australain magpie is as big as our ravens here. The bird is so agressive they even have a football (aussie rules) team named after them.
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Barndog
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posted January 20, 2004 12:46 PM
One more thing I remember about Australia. the big cat theory. During WWII the puma was a mascot for more than one of many burgades. When Japan threatened the gold coast, U.S. service men where ordered to release their mascots into the wild before going into action. We talk about having urban lions and so forth, to hear them talk one would think there was a black monster running around. MEOW
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Rich Higgins
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posted January 20, 2004 01:46 PM
Barndog, a couple of years ago Discovery channel had a program about the magpies killing sheep in New Zealand.
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Brushwolf
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posted January 28, 2004 01:24 PM
Interesting Subject:
To me the language has changed over the Many years I have been hunting coyotes. This is some of the old meanings we have used for years.
A Set: place where a trap is left. never heard this term used until just the last couple years used in calling.
A stand: place where you call for predators, when you move locations, its another stand.
Dog: coyote
Cat: usually refering to bobcat
Rig: your hunting vehicle, all decked out , spotlights, caller etc. even sleeping stuff & grub. ususlly set up for day and night and contest hunting. and a place to keep all your hides.
Run: Usually refering to a trip, might be a 4 day run, to kill predators. As are you going to run this weekend? Might be an 1200 mile trip if long lineing.
Shot: drilled, Zapped, whopped, poped, slapped, nailed, hammered, dropped and smoked...
Skin: peeled, skinned... cased him out
Charger: coming on hard.. self explanatory..
There are many more old terms: such as bullet burn... blue hide, etc, that you don't hear much anymore.
Brush
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Leonard
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posted January 28, 2004 04:16 PM
Dang, you been around a while, brushwolf! Welcome to the New Huntmasters. Glad to have you on board.
I am familiar with, and use every one of your terms. Yeah, my rig is all decked out for serious runs.
Good hunting. LB
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Krustyklimber
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posted January 28, 2004 05:05 PM
I don't think I use too many of these "new terms"...
I am guilty of saying "backcountry" but this is an adaptation from skiing.
A set was always used in duck hunting with decoys... "we called a flock into our set".
But I can also see how it would apply well to a trapping situation.
I do say "outback"... but only when I go outback of the garage to pee. ![[Wink]](wink.gif)
"Bush" has nothing to do with hunting predators, I generally don't use a firearm when "in the bush", but I do use my gun.
I harvest vegetables from my garden, I kill animals (at least I try to anyway).
I use the term "sequence" when referring to how many rabbit squeals before I go silent and wait. I use a "series" of sequences on a stand.
I don't have any term I use for skinning... you can't skin air.
All hunting vehicles with license plates are "trucks" I don't care if it's a car, if I am hunting or working out of it, it's a truck.
If it has four wheels and handlebars, it's a "quad".
The other one I find a lot of variance in is the mountain lion. Here most folks call em cougars, but down southwest they are just "lions", and a little east of there "puma", way up northeast they were known by "catamount"... any others I missed?
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onecoyote
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posted January 28, 2004 08:21 PM
Brushwolf, to know what a varmint rig is, not only tells me you've been around, it also tells me Leonard and I may even know you lol. It's sometimes a very small world .......Good Hunting
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Brushwolf
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posted January 29, 2004 06:24 AM
Guys,Thanks for the welcome guys
I have posted here a time back but its been a while. lost my post count?
I have never met you as individuals, but think I have seen you a time or two or 3 in Nevada..
I noticed many old huntin rigs with Calif. plates over the years,, I was doing the same thing you were but from the entering from he Utah side of the state.. he he Kinda feel a bond with you reading old days your stories.
No, I am not the Utah guy who lit you up in the middle of the night, spotlightin with my call blastin @ 50 miles an hour, he he but It would have been fun to. he he
I seen some of you guys back in the early 70;s at Ash Springs in a contest.. a few Az guys around too, Some of them AZ guys had yotes tied on the roof of hteir rigs? I have ran into calif hunters near Denio and Orovada, Jackpot to Montgomery pass. Tonopah to Montello, Jack creek to, you get the idea..
I dont get out as much anymore.. Just shoot half dozen yotes a season now. all day calling.. Now 58 years young. Have not made a 4 or 5 day callin run for a few years. Hunted my last contest back in 99. World Elko...
Back to this lanugage thing:
since mid 70's many states protected Bobcats and from non-residents, we had to start
refering to them as : short tails
cougar: lontails (now a felony to take) Just not worth it boys..
Things have really changed...
You older guys can relate to this B.S. for those of us that started in the 60's when you got a bounty on bobcats and lions/ coyote it tought to swallow these new rules. he he
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Leonard
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posted January 29, 2004 07:03 AM
Denio? That's always (sorta) been my secret spot! Ash Meadows? Been there too.
I love contest hunting. LB
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