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Rich Higgins
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Icon 1 posted August 16, 2003 04:21 PM            Edit/Delete Post 
Placing fresh rattlesnake venom on your tongue is extremely unpleasant.
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Leonard
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Icon 14 posted August 16, 2003 07:15 PM      Profile for Leonard   Author's Homepage   Email Leonard         Edit/Delete Post 
Just in the nick of time, Rich. I was going to try that tomorrow, thank God I took the time to read this post! Got any more good one's?

Good hunting. LB

edit: spent the day up in Jerome, playing tourist, but did see some good area around Cornville; companions refused to stop! I'm sure I could have called up a double right from the road. [Smile] LB

[ August 16, 2003, 07:22 PM: Message edited by: Leonard ]

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onecoyote
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Icon 1 posted August 16, 2003 07:30 PM      Profile for onecoyote           Edit/Delete Post 
Not to mention it makes your tongue look like a watermelon, gives you snake breath and when you walk you rattle. [Frown] That sounds like something the young people of today would like lol. [Big Grin]

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Icon 1 posted August 16, 2003 07:41 PM      Profile for Cdog911   Author's Homepage   Email Cdog911         Edit/Delete Post 
Uhhhh.... thanks, Rich. If I ever find myself wanting to do that, I'll remember what you siad. As for now, I've got to go out in the garage and clip my scrotum to a car battery. Be back later. [Smile]

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Rich Higgins
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Icon 1 posted August 16, 2003 08:00 PM            Edit/Delete Post 
Geez Lance, I don't think it was nearly that bad. Danny got it about half right.
Leonard that's some great coyote looking country all right. And just about every caller I've ever talked to thinks so also.

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Tim Behle
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Icon 1 posted August 17, 2003 09:21 PM      Profile for Tim Behle   Author's Homepage   Email Tim Behle         Edit/Delete Post 
Rich,

You timing is once again, impeccable. Just this morning, I decided to go out and try out a couple of new tapes I had. I wasn't really thinking about shooting a coyote, but did carry the little CZ 527 in .223.

About my second stop, I pulled in behind a dirt tank and stepped over the fence. Taking a little path past what looked like the remains of an old wooden farm wagon with a small metal roof thrown over it. As I got close to it, I saw a pair of rattle snakes. The smaller one would have probably made a snake collector happy as he was about 3.5' long. But the big one, he was something else. Biggest Rattle snake I've ever seen outside of a glass case. He easily went past 5' and was as big around as my forearm.

He slowly made his way under the roof section of the junk pile, coiled him self up in one of the most picture perfect strike positions you can imagine.

Being as I am a typical male, a gender known for it's ability to make bad decisions on short notice. I dropped to my knees next to the junk pile, and proceeded to work on adjusting the scope down to the lowest power and holding my left hand over the scope as a sun shade. I took aim about an inch and a half over his head from a distance of about 7'. At the shot, he recoiled himself back a little, the bullet missed his head, but took out the side of his body, about a foot below it.

I could hear the tail buzzing frantically as I started to work the bolt.

Remember I originally said there were two snakes? I didn't, not until as I was working the bolt it hit me, the snake buzzing his tail wasn't the one I just shot. Looking down, I saw the second snake, coiled and ready, pissed as hell and just a few inches from my right thigh.

That Matrix guy would have been proud. The butt of the rifle came off of my shoulder, whacked the second snake in the head, knocking him past the big snake. While at the same time, I managed to jump from my knees to land on my feet a few feet further back.

I was really proud of myself, when I calmed down and checked a few minutes later. I didn't crap on myself or anything. Not even a wet spot.

I came back and fished the big one out later, he had sixteen buttons on his rattle.

I keep telling my boys not to fool with the darn things, I wish I could remember to leave them alone myself.

Tim

[ August 17, 2003, 09:23 PM: Message edited by: Tim Behle ]

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Steve Craig
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Icon 1 posted August 18, 2003 06:30 AM      Profile for Steve Craig           Edit/Delete Post 
Shame on you Leonard. Drove right by my house and didnt stop? I wasnt home anyway. chasing antelope with a bow. Looks can be decieving around Cornville. Hasnt been any pups raised around here for the last 2 springs due to the drought. Only a few old coyotes left. If a client wants coyotes, I have to travel some to get them. Alot of cats here though, also due to low coyote numbers. Did you go out to the old ghost town and mine in Jerome? Several lions working that Mt. range. Have called a pile of cats just above Jerome a couple of miles.

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onecoyote
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Icon 1 posted August 18, 2003 09:21 AM      Profile for onecoyote           Edit/Delete Post 
Were did I put my Arizona map lol.

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Leonard
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Icon 1 posted August 18, 2003 04:22 PM      Profile for Leonard   Author's Homepage   Email Leonard         Edit/Delete Post 
Well, I admit that I thought about you, Steve. I know where you are, and I knew I was there. I promise to drop in next time; I suppose you're in the book? Yes, those hills behind Jerome look like they still hold a few cats.

We stopped at the Cactus nursury. Man! they want $150 for a three foot Saguaro.

So, that "flat beaver road" (something like that?) is not worthwhile, either? Hard to believe....(I'm always looking)

Good hunting. LB

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Rich Higgins
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Icon 1 posted August 18, 2003 04:43 PM            Edit/Delete Post 
Tim, I understand the 'Matrix' move. My wife was behind me when we were scouting the Winchesters 20 years ago. That rotten granite is like walking on ballbearings. Spent more time on my elbows and fanny than on my feet. Feet went out from under me, landed on my right side looking at a coiled rattler a foot in front of my face. My wife believes in levitation now. She said I popped upright faster than I went down.
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Icon 1 posted August 18, 2003 05:02 PM      Profile for Leonard   Author's Homepage   Email Leonard         Edit/Delete Post 
Don't know about the Matrix "move" but I once came face to face with a small Pacific Diamondback. I was climbing rocks with a rifle slung across my back. I was wide open, dead meat. I don't know how I managed to keep my balance and get both hands on the rifle, in front of me? It took me several minutes to get up the nerve to bring the butt down on him.

Man! that was exciting! Really make you think; when climbing mountains.

Good hunting. LB

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Rich Higgins
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Icon 1 posted August 18, 2003 06:08 PM            Edit/Delete Post 
The reason I made that first post.
I picked up my camera Fri. after 3 weeks in the shop. It's been a long time since I went 3 weeks without calling and I was having withdrawals big time. Sat at first light Tyler and I drove aways out into the desert. I needed video of Tyler bringing a coyote in close with a yellow rubber duck. 10 yards from the truck a western diamondback lit up. 3 1/2 feet long, fat, big around as my wrist. Camera was on the bi-pod so I tilted it back, turned it on and stuck it in the snakes face. It struck it twice, good video that I will use as a stay awake pop-up on my video. We walked about 200 yards out and set up with me facing downwind and Tyler 20 yards in front of me facing crosswind. I howled and blew the first series. After a few minutes a coyote came in from the left. I turned the camers on and lipsqueaked to Tyler who started squeaking the duck. The coyote headed straight to him, I looked through the camera but couldn't see anything but frosted glass. The coyote was almost to Tyler so I spun the camera around and saw that the lens were opaque. I wet my finger and wiped the lens, just smeared it. Wet my finger and wiped the lens again and again. 4 0r 5 times and it didn't help. The coyote stopped about 5 feet in front of Tyler and caught sight or smell, turned and trotted off the way it came. By the time we reached the truck my tongue was burning. By the time we got home it was swelling up and my palate and back of throat were burning, felt like I had gargled with battery acid. By midafternoon my tongue was swollen enough to make speech difficult. Lost some sleep Sat nite. Sunday the swelling began to recede. Oral tissues still on fire. Left eye swollen and tearing. Today just a little discomfort in my tongue and left eye. I keep thinking about the old snakebite treatment of cutting an X on the punctures and sucking the venom out. I wonder how many people with cavities and oral sores got secondary poisoning?

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Leonard
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Icon 1 posted August 18, 2003 06:48 PM      Profile for Leonard   Author's Homepage   Email Leonard         Edit/Delete Post 
I know what you mean, Rich. I get the same thing from Viagra, have to swallow it real fast or my tongue....well, you know.

Good hunting. LB

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Icon 1 posted August 18, 2003 09:59 PM      Profile for Locohead   Email Locohead         Edit/Delete Post 
LB, Haa Haaa

Rich, Now I get your tip of the day you knuckle-head!!!!

Tim, I am very proud of you too! I peed my pants just reading the story!!!! YIKES!!!!

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Icon 1 posted August 20, 2003 03:21 AM      Profile for Crow Woman   Email Crow Woman         Edit/Delete Post 
Susie sold seashells down by the seashore... say that three times really fast Rich H.

Now come on and tell us the truth, you really got your tongue pierced and didn't want to tell anyone until it was healed, right [Big Grin]

I'd go with the silver bar, that would match loverly with your silver casted curls [Wink] [Big Grin]

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Byron South
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Icon 1 posted August 20, 2003 05:56 PM      Profile for Byron South   Author's Homepage   Email Byron South         Edit/Delete Post 
Good idea Crow Woman. Heres a good tounge tangler for ya Rich.

Say this over and over real fast till you get it right.

One smart feller, and he felt smart. Two smart fellers and they felt smart. Three smart fellers and they felt smart.... You get the picture.

Hope your feeling better Rich.

Byron

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Jay Nistetter
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Icon 1 posted August 20, 2003 08:36 PM      Profile for Jay Nistetter   Email Jay Nistetter         Edit/Delete Post 
C'mon people! Stop with the tongue twisters. I'll have to listen to all that crap next time I go out calling with Higgins. He'll be tootin' junk on his howler all damn day.

A Tudor who tooted a flute
tried to tutor two tooters to toot.
Said the two to their tutor,
"Is it harder to toot
or to tutor two tooters to toot?"

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Rich Higgins
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Icon 1 posted August 20, 2003 09:42 PM            Edit/Delete Post 
I'd like everyones help in choosing a tune that matches Jay's ditty. I'll practice the tune on my howler and drive Jay nuts(more) on the drive out to the desert.
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brad h
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Icon 1 posted August 20, 2003 10:07 PM      Profile for brad h   Email brad h         Edit/Delete Post 
Now I'm sitting here wondering what would happen to a snake if someone stuffed a Viagra down its throat. Speaking of that, its a good thing nature didnt call anytime soon after you after you got that on your hand! Ouch, double inflamation! [Big Grin] I hope the video turned out anyway.

Brad

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Tim Behle
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Icon 1 posted August 21, 2003 06:48 AM      Profile for Tim Behle   Author's Homepage   Email Tim Behle         Edit/Delete Post 
Brad,

I was just thinking it was a good thing he didn't go digging for a booger!

Rich,

The tune in my mind is frequently associated with Mariachi's, but I can't think of the name of the song.

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Rich
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Icon 1 posted August 21, 2003 07:09 AM      Profile for Rich   Author's Homepage   Email Rich         Edit/Delete Post 
I once had a buddy that was leading the way up a long, rocky hill when he was struck in the privates by a fair to medium sized prairie rattler. I killed the snake and then told my buddy to lie there real quiet like while I hurry back to the truck and call 911 on my cell phone. I have one of those old BAG phones that is plugged in to my cigarette lighter all of the time. Anyway I got ahold of a medic at the 911 center and he told me to cut a small X across the bite location and suck as much poison out as I could. I was assured that 911 would dispatch an ambulance to our location. As I came huffin and puffing back over to my buddy, he was in really bad pain. My buddy asks me "What did they say?" and I promptly replied---------"They said that you are gonna die buddy!"

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Locohead
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Icon 1 posted August 21, 2003 10:11 AM      Profile for Locohead   Email Locohead         Edit/Delete Post 
posted by Behle:
"The tune in my mind is frequently associated with Mariachi's, but I can't think of the name of the song."

La Cucarucha????

La cucaracha, la cucaracha
ya no puede caminar
por que le falta, por que le falta
marijuana pa' fumar

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Lonny
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Icon 1 posted August 21, 2003 04:32 PM      Profile for Lonny           Edit/Delete Post 
Tim B, Great story, I enjoyed your writing. There's something about a close call with a snake that makes for a good story.

Rich H, That's quite the experience with the snake venom on the camera lens.

I remember a quite few years back watching a program about natives in the amazon putting poison that comes from a frog or toad on blowgun darts. The natives then trekked out into the jungle and darted a monkey of some sort in the upper leg with one of the poison darts. That monkey thumped the ground in less than a minute from the looks of things. You could see the poison take effect right away by the way the monkey started losing its balance and grip on the tree.

The other impressive thing was the natives skill at making a blowgun, and amount of time it took to make one. It was a slow process that took a couple of weeks to make the precise bore of the blowgun. The narrarator said the bore was within a few thousandths of and inch when finished from one end to the other without any modern tools. These dudes could work for Lilja or Shilen. Didn't mean to get so far off topic.

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Tim Behle
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Icon 1 posted August 21, 2003 08:48 PM      Profile for Tim Behle   Author's Homepage   Email Tim Behle         Edit/Delete Post 
Locohead,

No, it wasn't the cockroach song. But thanks, now I can't get that damned tune out of my head. [Roll Eyes]

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Rich Higgins
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Icon 1 posted August 23, 2003 09:05 AM            Edit/Delete Post 
Lonny, I saw that show on NGS or Discovery. He shot a black howler monkey, it fell from the tree fairly quickly after being hit by the dart. What struck me though was the fact that he carried the monkey home and dropped it next to his wife who threw it on the fire without dressing it or skinning it. Turned it a couple of times until it was cooked.
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