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Posted by Krustyklimber (Member # 72) on July 19, 2003, 11:02 PM:

Today me and Red went out scouting where we're going to bear hunt, and on the way home decided to make a couple stands for coyotes.

At one, we pulled off the side of Highway 101, with a clearcut on the east side, and the sun setting in the southwest, and a breeze blowing north... things looked prime.
As we head our way into the clearing, going some 300 yds through a depression to a group of brushy old cut stumps looking downslope to the edge away from the highway...
along our way in we rousted a pair of bedding does who crashed their way of through the dry slash left behind.

We were disappointed to say the least, but I am feeling so much pressure for success I decided to go at it anyway... we did call in a hawk, and finally a crow, but nothing else.

My question is how many of you would have gone back to the truck, finding another stand down the road...
And how many would have stayed, waited, and finished making their way to their stand and called anyway?

Do you think the deer or other animals alert the predators and blow your stand?

Thanks,

Jeff

Posted by Stretch (Member # 91) on July 20, 2003, 12:20 AM:

Hi Jeff.... (LTNS!) [Razz]

I don't think sneaking up on a coyote on your approach to your stand, then scaring a couple of doe is any worse than your scent, noise (whispering, walking, closing truck doors etc.) or any rattling of equipment that the coyote can pinpoint without the help from the deer would make much of a difference unless the coyote was in the general area of the deer at the time they were spooked. I would've continued with making my stand. Even if the coyote didn't know you were in the area, doesn't mean that the deer busted your stand or gave you away to the coyote.

Not making the stand would be like not fishing a spot on the lake because you made noise in the boat before you got your line in the water... [Big Grin]

Posted by Purple220 (Member # 173) on July 20, 2003, 07:13 AM:

Well said Stretch, one nevrs knows until you blow on that call. Jeff, I don't know about your neck of the woods but calling is pretty tough here this time of year. I don't even get out. Too many other things are out that also like to bite. We've had a confirmed report of a rancher killing a Mojave. They are not supposed to be this far east. Bad enough we have all the other buzz tails.
Bob

Posted by onecoyote (Member # 129) on July 20, 2003, 08:16 AM:

Purple220, I found your statment so interesting I had to look it up. Mojave Rattlesnakes (Crotalus scutulatus)are found in California, Nevada, Arizona, Colorado, New Mexico, Texas and Mexico. Subspecies: MOJAVE GREEN, C.s. scutulatus, occurs in that area. My information comes from Western Reptiles and Amphibians, Peterson Field Guide by Robert C. Stebbins. Purple220, I kill Mojave Greens every year where I live. Its the only snake I kill on site because of the type of venoms it has. Hemo and Neurotoxic, this snake is highly dangerous.

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on July 20, 2003, 08:33 AM:

That's news to me, I'd have guessed that Mojave greens were local, since I have never seen them any place else? They make a nice hat band.

As far as disturbing your stand, Krusty, it's a disapointment, but not a reason to head back to the truck.

If deer are bedded, it's a decent spot, maybe there are coyote near by? I have more trouble with range cattle running off after I start a sequence. That usually does get the attention of an incoming predator.

In fact, the times that I have witnessed an animal watching a departing steer, they do seem affected, and regard it as a warning. But, that's different than kicking out a bedded deer.

Along the same vein, I have kicked up a coyote walking to a stand, and still decided to make the stand, albeit with a few more howls added for his friends that might be within range?

Nah, if it looked good to you before, you might as well let it play out. What's the worst thing that could happen? You waste fifteen minutes.

Now, if it's the last stand of the day, you got a problem, because it may take you ten of your last fifteen minutes to find another spot. Good luck with that scenario. Of course you don't know what I'm talking about, but a few contest hunters might?

Good hunting. LB

Posted by Tim Behle (Member # 209) on July 20, 2003, 12:25 PM:

Not only do they have some nasty venom, but the little boogers are aggressive too.

The last two summers, it seemed like every time I'd walk across the deck, or down the steps, I'd have one of them buzzing at me.

They seemed to have moved away this summer thankfully, either that or the birds and the bugs ate them all last summer. [Wink]

Don't worry too much about jumping deer on the way into the stand, I've jumped deer and still called coyotes on several stands.

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