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Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on June 05, 2003, 09:30 AM:
When approaching a stand, they come in, they circle, they pause, they look around.
Is the fact that he(she) stopped, a warning sign?
On the other hand; I know they can "think" and run at the same time. They do not have to stop before they decide to retreat.
What do you think? What does (the stop) tell you about your unfolding stand?
Good hunting. LB
Posted by Crow Woman (Member # 157) on June 05, 2003, 10:09 AM:
My guess and thought would be that they are getting a real clear grip on their senses. I would perceive them to be taking that split second to stop, see, hear and smell before they decide what to do next.
my 2 1/2 cents
Crow Woman
Posted by Cdog911 (Member # 7) on June 05, 2003, 03:16 PM:
I agree with Crow Woman on this one. In the past, I've been much like most other callers and taken the first decent shot opportunity once the coyote enters the red zone. But, having taken the past year to call without a gun in hand and using a howler and camcorder (Damn that Higgins. I'll be huggin' trees next thing you know!), I've taken the time to just screw with them. There's a lot to be seen and learned when you allow yourself NOT to become tunnel visioned looking for the kill. What I've seen is that they seem to make their approach, circle downwind if the cover and terrain allows it, and make occasional stops. Maybe they, like us, have a tough time making out distant details at a dead run. Either way, I've discovered that the stop doesn't always mean the stand is about to bust on me. It's been quite educational to just allow them to stop and see what happens after that. In fact, it's just come to mind... how many times do we see a coyote stop and just as we make a mad dash to shoot, the coyote bolts. It's easy for us to say, "See! He'd have busted outta there either way. It's a good thing I jerked the old WInchester up and took a poke at 'im!" In reality, it was just an "operational pause" which meant nothing one way or another, except that the coyote wanted to stop. Had the hunter not slammed his gun up and ram 'n jammed into a shooting situation, the coyote may very well have just stood there, looked over its backtrail once or twice, stuck his nose up in the air, licked his "uh-oh"'s, maybe even sat down. In the past year, I've let them have their pause and seen them do all these things and more, having held coyotes in a holding pattern for as long as 45 minutes at a time. I think you need to be able to read a lot more of their body language before you can acuurately anticipate their next move. And just when you think you have THAT figured out, plan for the exact opposite. ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on June 05, 2003, 03:21 PM:
So, do you think that a stop is tied to a change of direction, from DIRECT to DOWNWIND?
Posted by BillfMO (Member # 192) on June 05, 2003, 06:04 PM:
As for what the stop means: I think it is the same thing as when you hear something of interest around the corner. You walk or run down the street until you get to where you feel you should be able to see what is going on. Once you get there you stop and look. At this time we, and they, have to see or hear enough to keep them interested so we,or they, want to see and get more info. This is where a decoy and movement is nice, it give them that (hey there is something down there I need to check out). If they can't see it, they may want to check it with their nose and that is the start of the downwind swing.
My 2 cents worth!!
edited for spelling
[ June 05, 2003, 06:06 PM: Message edited by: BillfMO ]
Posted by Cdog911 (Member # 7) on June 05, 2003, 07:34 PM:
LB, I don't think it's possible to assign any given stop to one or two specific behaviors or intents. On one hand, it may be as you suggest, separating one tactic from another, direct to downwind. At its simplest, it may simply be a matter of "I don't wanna run no more.". To me, coyotes seem to have an uncanny ability to know exactly where I'm calling from, give or take twenty feet or so. I think they make their approach, roughly certain of where the sound is coming from, and once they get to a place where they can assess the situation, they do.
Imagine yourself being the coyote. You know that there's a rabbit being squeezed beneath that rock outcropping. You head that way and when you're about fifty feet away, your gut tells you that you maybe oughtta stop and size things up. So you do. That same gut feeling tells you things are just a whole lot not quite right so you turn and run. How many times have you been boresighted by a coyote and had the wind in your favor, not moved, and done everything perfect to remain concealed and had that danged coyote bust you anyway?
Now, consider that coyote coming in to find a rabbit being killed. He hears the sound. He smells nothing, or if you're misting, he smells all kinds of goodies. But since many guys don't use deeks, he sees nothing when he gets there. You'd think that something killing a bunny would make a litle commotion, wouldn't you. So he stops to size things up.
I don't use a decoy, but how 'bout you fellas that do? When the coyote's got a visual lock on the deek, does he still stop, or is he more likely to cruise on in?
As for me, I take the first oppotunity to shoulder and zero the scope on the coyote, then see how close he'll come in. If he stops in the red zone, and I certainly hope he does, he's toast (I hope).
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on June 05, 2003, 07:58 PM:
No, Lance.
I am not suggesting a reason, so far, but I think there may be several reasons. You have done a nice job of proposing a few logical reasons, (scenarios, if you will?) and I think you are probably correct that there isn't one single reason.
But, as I have said a number of times, this isn't about what Leonard thinks; it's about what the members think. I know we can come up with a few more possibilities.
Good hunting. LB
Posted by Seldom Ever (Member # 185) on June 05, 2003, 08:00 PM:
Well then Cdog,your post makes me think of a greenhorn question I've been meaning to ask for awhile,being as how I am plumb green when it comes to predator hunting.
Wouldn't it be better to use an e-call,as many do,or double team the coyotes,much like we do here with turkey [shooter forward and to one side,caller to the rear]rather than by yourself with a hand call?
I know that most animals notice movement more than anything, but if you're not moving and you still get busted even though everything is in your favor,maybe camo ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
is the answer ? Your post makes me think my ghillie suit and decoy is not a bad idea,especially if I'm not using an e-call because of walking a lot between sets,etc.?
Posted by Bryan J (Member # 106) on June 05, 2003, 08:28 PM:
I have only experienced one time when I knew for sure why the coyote stopped on his way in. I was on my way out to a bush that I had picked out for a backdrop when the hills erupted in a group howl. Thinking they were sounding the alarm I sat down in disgust to listen to them taunt me. They shut up after a while and I gave it a minute or two and let out 3 violent screams. Immediately I saw a coyote pop up out of a wash and start his approach. I stayed quite and let him come. I could hear a truck coming along the county road I had parked on and I was only 50 yards from it. I watched the coyote closely, I saw him turn his head towards the approaching automobile. He promptly sat down and watched the truck go by then resumed his approach after the truck had gone around the bend.
Every other time the coyotes seem to look at me the same way my German Short Hair looks at me after I tell him to come the first time. I haven’t decided which of the two responds better after I repeat the command though.
Posted by bucksnort (Member # 202) on June 05, 2003, 09:19 PM:
It has always been my experience, that a few coyotes will come to the call on a dead run, right into your lap. If a coyote stops at 75-100 yards and faces you, he will most of the time, keep coming to the call. He is only doing one last "recon" to see if things "sound" right. If the coyote stops and turns sideways, you better shoot, because he is getting ready to leave the area. There is something he does not like, and most of the time, if you are using an electric caller, the volume is too loud to suit him. Or your hand call is too loud. Just my thoughts.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on June 06, 2003, 02:24 AM:
That's some pretty good thoughts, Bucksnort. Welcome to the New Huntmasters. Glad to have you on board.
Bryan J, also. A very interesting post!
Good hunting. LB
Posted by Seldom Ever (Member # 185) on June 06, 2003, 03:22 AM:
Thanks for the tip bucksnort,I'll remember that one.Kinda like when a Goose "stands" up on water and stretches it's neck out looking, ain't it ?
So how many times on average,are you guys busted without really knowing why ?
[ June 06, 2003, 03:24 AM: Message edited by: Seldom Ever ]
Posted by Greenside (Member # 10) on June 06, 2003, 07:54 AM:
I think the main reason coyotes stop are pauses in the call sequence. IMHO coyotes coming to call are mostly navigating by hearing and not very much by sight. On the run they look for the easiest way to get to where his ears are telling him to go. Might be a little embarrasing to the coyote to run into a fence while he was looking for a dying rabbit That's why when coyotes are on the move, you can get away with quite abit of motion. They look where their going, not where they want to end up.
Stop the call and it forces them to stop and look to where they thought the sound was coming from before they proceed.
Just my opinion
Dennis
Posted by pup (Member # 90) on June 06, 2003, 08:06 AM:
Now you guys are throwing me a curve ball, because some had me convinced that they only stop at a vantage point. ![[Wink]](wink.gif)
I have to agree that there are several reasons that a coyote will/could stop. Variables such as wind / distress coming from shade, coyote looking into sun /and as already stated something just doesn't feel right, I think plays a big part.
I can't say for sure how the coyote processes info, but I know that I have been driving down the road and stop and think "that looked like a coyote, or that looked like a deer" Then stop and look at the spot to get a little better idea of what I think it was. I also jumped several feet sideways because I thought I seen a snake, and stop and see exactly what it was.
I also agree that we get in a hurry when one stops in the "red" zone. "AH" (after Higgins) I have just let some do what they will while in the red zone, most just pause IMO and try to get a better idea, and then come on, some directly and some will change direction, either to take advantage of wind or cover.
It is when they do the double take that I go ahead and put the squeze on them.
The stops that I like best is when they are about 30yds out and hear the bark. The look of " what in ____ " is priceless.
later pup
Posted by pup (Member # 90) on June 06, 2003, 08:18 AM:
I thought that the reasons/advantages for "continous calling" was to prevent the "stop".
Greenside, and those that use "CC" are you still getting the "stop".
later pup
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on June 06, 2003, 11:04 AM:
Nothing about continuous calling or hand calling is graven in stone. However, if you do both long enough, I think you will notice that the continuous calling tends to keep the animal's focus somewhat better. You can't guarantee there will not be a stop, (it would be easier to say that there will be a stop; but there seems to be less looking around, changing of direction, stuff like that.
Good hunting. LB
Posted by Az-Hunter (Member # 17) on June 06, 2003, 02:22 PM:
Pup
The continuous call method precludes the coyote from stopping "way out there" at 200 yards or 100 yards, playing stop and go peek-a-boo like they do when the series caller stops his series, instead the continuous call usually keeps them on the come until you wish them to stop. This can be accomplished either by stopping the caller when coyote is 50 yards out, or many times by a quick vocal bark or woof. My theory on a coyotes natural stop to survey the situation is because of his poor visual acuity. He can see movement like a hawk, and he knows where the sound is coming from within 30 feet from a half mile out. Trouble is he has 20/75 vision,abd is color blind to boot, and might need to check up close to the call, (that being either you or your electronic), to attempt to get a positive fix on his prey? Who knows, Im not one to "play" with the coyote for 45 mins., in that time frame I could have been to the next stand and hopefully called another one, which I usually make stop, rather than let him stop on his own. It's a funny game we play, I try my best to be the one in control, making the coyote stop in the best place I can to effectively kill him.
~Az-Hunter~
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"Most coyotes stop when I want them to,and most fall when I press the trigger.....it's that damned other 5% that trouble me:)"
Posted by Wiley E (Member # 108) on June 06, 2003, 09:39 PM:
Leonard,
I believe the reason they usually stop is so they can focus on the source of the sound which they can determine to within about 30' at a half mile. They see better when they are stopped than they do when they are running.
~SH~
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on June 06, 2003, 10:06 PM:
Scott, do you know the meaning of plagiarism?
I wonder, because I know for a fact, that they can determine the source of the sound within 25 feet, from a distance of 800 meters.
Good hunting. LB
Posted by Cal Taylor (Member # 199) on June 07, 2003, 08:35 AM:
I think most of you are reading way too much into this. I think a coyote stops because he wants to. Maybe hes ran in on a more dominate coyote killing a rabbit and got his butt kicked, or maybe he's seen a caller before, or maybe he seen an odd movement or something he didn't recognize. I'm sure he's expecting to see some movement, but he probably thinks he's going to see another predator. I hunted with an old state trapper in Utah alot and he had an answer for everything I asked, but it was one answer. "Because they are coyotes". Why are they howling? Why aren't they howling? Why do they do this one day and that the next day? Basically I think the point he was trying to make is that they are individuals and what they do from day to day is going to vary and there are no everytime answers. If you call three different coyotes on three different days from the exact same place they are going to do three different things, and stop in three different spots and likely come in three slightly different directions. One may come straight in, one may hang way back, and one may circle to try to get the wind. All three will do what they do for their own reasons. This is just one opinion, but in most cases I think its true.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on June 07, 2003, 09:19 AM:
One possibility I haven't seen mentioned is the behavior of the alpha pair and the actions of any other member of the food chain.
Good hunting. LB
Posted by Wiley E (Member # 108) on June 07, 2003, 10:25 AM:
Cal Taylor,
Excellent post!
Leonard,
I threw the "30' at a half mile" out there for the sharks. That was from a study and difficult to disprove. Hehehe!
Personally, I have spotted coyotes out there between 1/2 mile and 1 mile. Repeatedly I have called one time to watch them come in without stopping until they were within 50 yards and searching for the sound. POP FLOP and on to the next stand.
~SH~
Posted by Greenside (Member # 10) on June 07, 2003, 01:02 PM:
Cal
Can't really disagree on your post, but when working or handling coyotes don't you think there should be a certain amount of speculation as to why coyotes are doing certain things when coming into the call?
When a coyote, coming to the call, stops and looks back two or three times, it's probably for a better reason than just being a coyote. Same thing if one stops every ten yards in two hundred yards before you put him down at one hundred.
When i coyoe hunt,I ask myself "why" on just about every stand. Maybe I ask too many questions?
Dennis
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on June 07, 2003, 01:08 PM:
Yeah, you're both right. You can drive yourself nuts analyzing coyote behavior, and yet, we do learn a few things along the way. When a coyote stops, in view, out of range, you must have some thought on the way it's going to play out, and how you can influence the outcome?
Good hunting. LB
Posted by Rich (Member # 112) on June 07, 2003, 02:22 PM:
When this dry bitch stopped the first time, she was something over two hundred yards and all I could see was her head. She appeared to be staring a hole in me and I was afraid that she had me pegged. She had come to the sound of a lone howl, so I knew that she expected to see a coyote there. I took a chance and lip squeaked. I got lucky and she came a little closer but then made a right turn and headed down-wind. I lip squeaked again, she stopped and I have her a 100 grain Sierra Pro-Hunter which was moving at about 3200 fps. We can't always tell for sure exactly why they stop, but sometimes we get lucky and make the right choice when they do stop.
Posted by Wiley E (Member # 108) on June 08, 2003, 06:54 AM:
Greenside,
Although this topic was specific to why coyotes stop and I agreed with Cal Taylor's premise of coyotes being unpredictable AT TIMES, I also agree that you can predict things by reading body language. A coyote that is continually looking back is probably not alone.
~SH~
Posted by onecoyote (Member # 129) on June 08, 2003, 08:38 AM:
Words like, Probably...maybe...sometimes...not sure...I think?...unpredictable. Leonard summed it up the best so far, (You can drive yourself nuts analyzing coyote behavior.) Rich has the best idea, just go out and shoot one when it STOPS lol.
Posted by Cal Taylor (Member # 199) on June 08, 2003, 12:29 PM:
Greenside,
You are correct about "reading coyotes" and guys like Wiley E that have called alot of coyotes can read one like a book when he's coming in. I haven't hunted with Wiley (hint) but I have hunted with alot of guys with that much experience, and they know whats going on as a coyote is coming in, if there is another coyote, and if so which one they need to kill first, and when to kill the one thats in front of them. But that isn't really what was being discussed, or I was off base. What I was trying to get at is that the reason a coyote stops or doesn't is up to the coyote. You may think you know where he is going to do this or that and you will be right sometimes, but you will be wrong sometimes because coyotes are individuals and all have different learning experiences. Some October YOY will crawl right in your lap and lick your face to taste whatever is making that sound. Some with mom still around will get a warning bark telling them that all is not right in the world and won't come in and are always a little more suspicious form then on. There are some fairly sure signs in their body language, but still not 100%. I have had coyotes pick up their head and you know why, and they get a little whif. One coyote will set there curiously and try to figure out what he is smelling and the next may just instantly kick on the afterburners, but you can't know for sure. If a coyote is coming in and stopping every 10 yards from 200 to 100 as you stated, with me he's not going to get to 100 yds. He is too suspicious and I'm going to kill him at 180. I know that if he has already stopped two or three times it is time to kill him, much like what Rich posted.
Posted by Rich (Member # 112) on June 08, 2003, 02:27 PM:
Ok guys,
About one week ago yesterday I had one come running by me at full bore. He was running from my right to left, and man Oh man was he ever moving on! When my crosshairs were on his nose, I slapped the trigger on my Mauser. Yep you guessed it, he stopped real quick.
On a more serious note, two coyotes come in at same time and you kill one of em. His mate takes off for home and Mother. A few coyote distress squalls will cause him to stop and look back----Sometimes anyway, maybe even most times. If you are really good with a rifle, you can sometimes score a double with that trick. Good hunting.
Posted by Krustyklimber (Member # 72) on June 08, 2003, 03:21 PM:
I have two instances of coyotes stopped, perhaps their body laguage can help determine why and those of you who know what's up can decifer it for us.
Have fun,
Jeff 
P.S. neither of these coyotes is responding to a call, and neither is bothered by human scent.
[ June 08, 2003, 03:22 PM: Message edited by: Krustyklimber ]
Posted by Purple220 (Member # 173) on June 08, 2003, 08:38 PM:
I think they stop, especially when I have the "PURPLE SWIFT", because they can't believe some hunter just called his stupid butt in and now is fixing to end his hunting career with above mentioned gun !!! LOL
Bob
Posted by Crow Woman (Member # 157) on June 09, 2003, 05:44 AM:
laughing in hysterics... You are probably Sooooo right!!!
Good One
Crow Woman
Posted by onecoyote (Member # 129) on June 09, 2003, 08:40 AM:
Krustyklimber, that last pic you posted with the two coyotes, the joshua trees, hills and mountains in the background looks like a place I've been before. Joshua trees only grow in two places on this earth and I live in one of them lol, Good Hunting.
Posted by Rich (Member # 112) on June 09, 2003, 11:26 AM:
"Joshua trees only grow in two places on this earth and I live in one of them lol, Good Hunting."
Hey Onecoyote,
So you are still living in the Joshua tree huh? So much for the evolution theory.
Posted by Jay Nistetter (Member # 140) on June 09, 2003, 12:09 PM:
It's a little difficult to tell from just a photo. Sometimes a coyote will stop to wait up for another to catch up. The upper photo tells me the coyote is relaxed mainly from the tail position and head posture. Could be he sees a squirrel and is surveying the situation. The bottom photo tells me that this coyote knows the direction of the sound but is waiting for the correct movement to make him come on in.
Along another line, I have had coyotes stop off in the distance clearly giving indication that they want to come on in but will not cross some imaginary boundry. Apparently they were busted by another coyote before who drew the line in HIS sand.
Posted by Krustyklimber (Member # 72) on June 09, 2003, 12:32 PM:
Onecoyote,
Are you saying you see two coyotes in the J-tree pic?
And yes, I took that picture in your neck of the woods, if you wanna call these woods?!? LOL
What two places do they grow? I was under the impression they ony grew in the contact zone of the Mojave and Colorado deserts... but I'm just a city-boy from the soggy Pacific NW, so I don't know much about the deserts.
Jay,
Thanks for playing along, I'd have thought more of you guys would wanna play too...
I took both of those pictures, and I have a pretty good idea why they are stopped where they are, and what both did to get into the postion for the pic.
I was gonna let you guys bounce it around for a while, then come back and tell the real story...
Some of you might remember the story of the coyote in the first pic, and I know I have told a couple of you the story behind the J-tree coyote as well.
I'll be back,
Jeff
Posted by Jay Nistetter (Member # 140) on June 09, 2003, 01:32 PM:
Oh.... Now I see. This is a test to see if we are instant expert wannabes or if we really know a little something. LOL Hmmm
[ June 09, 2003, 01:33 PM: Message edited by: Jay Nistetter ]
Posted by Rich (Member # 112) on June 09, 2003, 02:34 PM:
Krusty,
Yes there are two coyotes in your second photo, but it is sort of hard to see him. You need a well trained eye for coyotes in the brush in order to see coyote #2.
Posted by pup (Member # 90) on June 09, 2003, 04:02 PM:
Be very careful about imaginary lines in the sand.
Some wouldn't buy my brushy creek boundary theory without alot of to do. lol.. just a joke.
Once again JUST A JOKE.
later pup
Posted by Cal Taylor (Member # 199) on June 09, 2003, 04:31 PM:
The coyote in the first picture came in to investigate the incense smell coming from a old chevy van. The second coyote is looking at what he first believed to be a sasquatch, but then realized it was just a human with really long hair. Am I close Krusty???
Posted by Rich (Member # 112) on June 09, 2003, 06:09 PM:
Cal Taylor,
Krusty is still busy looking fo that second coyote in his bottom photo. The one that sneaked in behind him to catch his scent and left again with big smile on it's face.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on June 09, 2003, 06:29 PM:
...be that as it may; I think I recognize the #2 location, myself? I have always been of the opinion that Joshua trees are not particularly good hunting. I don't know why that is, but that has been my experience. Am I wrong?
Good hunting. LB
Posted by Thumper (Member # 174) on June 10, 2003, 09:41 PM:
I think a coyote stops while coming in because it has had a bad experience in responding to distress before. I've noticed that the hard chargers that fail to stop, most often are either the young (don't know any better) or dominant mature males (I'm taking that rabbit and I'm going to kick some ass too). The other half the population or so has the smarts to use a little more caution. They may have lost a little muzzle fur to a bobcat the last time they charged in, or big daddy may have just put him in his place. Could have been buzzed by the loud hornets also. Some kind of caution is prudent for most coyotes. Stop and get a better fix on the situation before I get myself in over my head kind of thing. Sometimes the situation requires more invesigation or a peek down wind and other times its I'm not taking one step closer till I see something good. Other times its this don't feel right and I'm out a here. It could be, what in the hell are they doin to that rabbit anyway, I just got to see this guy. Who knows? They have the tools to keep themselves out of trouble (and I believe some coyotes to be almost uncallable) but curiosity has killed more than just a cat or two.
I can't wait for Oct.
Thumper
Posted by Purple220 (Member # 173) on June 11, 2003, 06:21 AM:
Thumper, I don't think I'll be able to wait until Oct. Just picked up 60 more sections of choice prime yote calling. Sept. is about as long as can stand. New night hunting rig isn't helping matters either.
Posted by onecoyote (Member # 129) on June 11, 2003, 04:47 PM:
I was looking at what looks to be another coyote in the sage brush to the right of the coyote at the bottom of the Joshua tree. I'm old, but it kinda looks like a coyotes face to me? From what I've heard, Joshua trees only grow in the Mojave desert and in Israel and yes I live where they grow, I have two in my back yard lol. By the way, that second picture looks like Joshua Tree Nationl Monument. I called there one time (NO GUNS) made three stands around where the rock climbers climb and called in six coyotes right under there noses. I'd love to be able to hunt there, I bet someone could get alot in a day out of that place, oh well lol, Good Hunting.
Posted by Krustyklimber (Member # 72) on June 11, 2003, 05:51 PM:
Danny,
That is exactly right, it is J-Tree National Park.
That pic was taken while stopped in the middle of the main road about a mile from Jumbo Rocks Campground.
I didn't call coyotes then, I was one of those dirtbag climbers. I was so shocked when he came out to see us, I had to take his picture.
Jeff
Posted by Thumper (Member # 174) on June 11, 2003, 08:43 PM:
I may be blind, but I can only see one coyote in picture #2. There are 2 coyotes in the first picture, however, isn't there? Maybe I'm counting backwards. I have lived in the Mojave Desert though so I'm pretty sure I know what picture you're talking about. Those coyotes on the parks and stuff that are protected aren't real coyotes (well they are, but). I could really make a killing if allowed a couple days on the Lava Beds Nat. Mon. I swear the coyotes are laughing as I drive by.
If your village is missing an idiot, I think I know where he is.
Thumper
Posted by Rich (Member # 112) on June 11, 2003, 09:03 PM:
Thumper,
I was just playing with Krusty a little bit and trying to make him strain his eyes to see that second coyote which he had no idea was there. As far as I know, there is really only ONE coyote in that second photo. LOL
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on June 11, 2003, 10:32 PM:
I started to imagine that I could see a coyote standing right in front of that tree on the right. Just shows what the power of suggestion will do.
Good hunting. LB
Posted by Rich (Member # 112) on June 12, 2003, 05:03 AM:
Leonard,
I know what you mean. There are a lot of shapes and shadows in that photo that looks like maybe there is an animal there. I guess it probably is only seen by guys who hunt a lot.
Posted by onecoyote (Member # 129) on June 12, 2003, 08:45 AM:
Rich and Leonard, you guys can't see the coyote in the sage brush to the right of the other coyote? Geezzzzzzz lol. Look again and you can see what looks like the face of a coyote. It's face, one eye and it's nose. No I'm not drunk and I don't do drugs lol.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on June 12, 2003, 08:51 AM:
Funny! Nobody has noticed the naked lady, yet! Must be those old eyes?
That answers the original question: that coyote stopped to look at the naked chicks; you know about those "dirt bag" rock climbers, right?
Krusty, what's the highest rock you ever climbed ; sans shorts? You know; boy-girl-boy-girl, etc. Keeps you looking up, right?
Good hunting. LB
Posted by Greenside (Member # 10) on June 12, 2003, 10:16 AM:
Look carefully just to the right of the second tree from the right side. That's Waldo!
Dennis
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Posted by Krustyklimber (Member # 72) on June 12, 2003, 08:36 PM:
Leonard,
It's funny you should ask that... and I am not sure I totally understand your question.
Once when climbing in eastern Ore. on a particularly hot desert day, we were standing at the base of the crag waiting for another party to finish the route we wanted... when the beatuiful young lady who was their third stands up from next to The Shade Boulder (actually name) and asks if all us dudes would mind if she climbed in her underwear, stating it was way to hot, and she only had black pants.
About a dozen male voices ring out like a chorus "SURE GO AHEAD!"
For myself, I had a tendency to wear a lot of clothes and rarely ever even climbed in short pants. And because of the danger of getting things out of place in a fall, and caught in your harness as your body weight is applied, I almost always wore briefs under those.
Jeff
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