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Topic: Getting shot at. What would you do?
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Curt2u
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posted April 09, 2003 10:43 PM
The other day I walked a couple miles up the mountain from my house. Slung the short AR on my shoulder and Pee-Wee around my neck. Kind of a walk-about of sorts. Came to a logging landing where you could see into the woods 100 yards or so. Decided to set up a stand for grins. Haven't done hardly any calling this winter. No time and never home and a crappy winter. (I'll make up for it this summer...I mean fall. ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif) )
Anyway, I sit down in front of this fir tree and give a couple howls. (Yup, howling with Pee-Wee. Don't laugh, it's worked great for me in the past. ![[Smile]](smile.gif) ) Seconds after the howls I hear a pickup speed up and quickly pull into the landing behind me. Newer truck. Very quiet. The guy driving bales out and starts shooting a semi-auto .22 blindly into the woods. The bullets are zipping by about 20 yards in front of me.
I wasn't sure what to think for a second. Then it dawned on me that he must have heard the howls and elected to lay down some " suppressive fire" for what he thought was a coyote.
My question is, how would you have handled this situation? I'll tell you what I did later on.
Take care, Curt
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Krustyklimber
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posted April 10, 2003 01:32 AM
First I would have taken cover, even a .22 is too big to be shot with.
Second I'd of had your AR, I would cap off three quick rounds (into a good safe backdrop, away from dumbass) and begun to scream "Oh sh*t!!! I'm hit"... then disguised my voice (to be my buddy) and screamed "Oh man, don't move dude... you shot my buddy... you gotta help me take him to the hospital!!!" and go back to screaming, like I'd been shot,in my own voice.
When he got down to where I was I'd say "F***in' ***hole!" and walk off.
Please, tell me you shot his truck! ![[Wink]](wink.gif)
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Leonard
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posted April 10, 2003 05:56 AM
I'm at a loss, haven't a clue what I'd have done. I'm sure I would have reacted, I just don't know how much?
What we need here is his e-mail address, that would help, a lot!
Good hunting. LB
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WolverineAtWork
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posted April 10, 2003 07:45 AM
I probably would have started yelling "AAAAGGHH, ow, ow, ohh damn!" and after he stopped firing run out of the bushes clutching my chest w/ a pained look on my face and staggered toward him before collapsing in a heap on the ground at his feet, gasping "go.... get.... help..."
After he left, I'd pack up, move my truck, go hide in an out of the way place fully camoed where I could watch as he tried to explain the situation to emergency crews.
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Leonard
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posted April 10, 2003 08:10 AM
...and what if he shakes his head, and decides that dead men tell no tales?
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Rich
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posted April 10, 2003 10:15 AM
It is my very strong opinion that the best thing to do in a case like this is to yell out in loudest voice you can muster. Do not move, the guy already thinks there is a coyote up there. You need to yell out and let him know there is a human there. That is what I would do first. If he fired again after I yelled, he becomes fair target of opportunity.
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Rob
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posted April 10, 2003 01:23 PM
Curt I've been shoot at while calling, it is scary. There was a thread on PM a while back about this very subject. I was using my howler when it happend to me,the guy on PM was using his to.
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Lonny
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posted April 10, 2003 04:26 PM
I've had bullets come my way a couple of times while out hunting or working. Both times I made damn sure the people doing the shooting knew that I was in the area and didn't like having shots thrown in my direction. Both times that people shot towards me were prime examples of just not thinking before shooting. They were very apologetic after realizing their mistake and admitted to not thinking another human could be close by.
One of the best lessons I ever learned was when I was about 15 or 16 years old. I was shooting ground squirrels in a pasture around a barn. I was sure nobody was in the barn. The shooting was fast and furious and I wasn't paying as much attention as I should have been. Every so often a squirrel would be lined up with the barn in the background. Heck, that rimfire wouldn't get that far was my thinking. Besides no one was around anyway, or so I thought. Suddenly the owner stepped out of the barn and said "Son, I don't ever want to see you aim that gun towards a building again!" Man I just wanted to crawl into a hole and die! The guy had given me permission to shoot squirrels on his property and I had pulled a stupid stunt like that. He never said anymore about it to me again. I learned one heckuva lesson that day.
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onecoyote
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posted April 10, 2003 05:38 PM
I had some 22 plinkers shooting over my head as I was walking on a ridge, quail hunting once. I shot my shotgun in the air and yelled some profanity at them, ![[Mad]](mad.gif) They stopped really fast. It's a bad feeling when bullets are going over your head, ![[Frown]](frown.gif) They make a snapping sound, then you hear the gunshot. It's the ones you don't hear that kill you. ![[Eek!]](eek.gif) I never thought of howling and having someone think I'm a coyote. Besides rattlesnakes, bears, mt. lions and bobcats sneaking up on us, now we have to think of the worst of em all, humans...........Good Hunting.
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Cdog911
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posted April 10, 2003 06:16 PM
Don't discount the .22 as a lethal weapon. In fact, it's often the weapon of choice for suicides because the bullet has such a low velocity, it can enter the braincase then just ricochet around in there for lack of sufficient velocity and energy to exit the other side, tearing the snot outta your grey matter. It's no source of great pride for me to say that in fifteen years in EMS, I've seen my fair share (and probably a bunch of other people's, too) of self-inflicted GSW's and some that were offered by others.
I recall this same thread on the PM Board. You never know how you'll react until you've been there. I've had more than a couple big rounds go over my head Sounds like a rocket going overhead, then BOOM. Hopefully, Rich C. can't relate to us the experience of being shot at from his time in law enforcement. I've had a bunch of calls involving idiots and guns, but was never aimed at and/or shot at. Thank God for that.
Personally, I'd have stayed right where I was after crawling inside my own a$$hole, then yelled "Hold your fire!!!" as loud as I could. Keep yelling it. Add your own embellishments, i.e., creative names for the shooter. Do everything you can to let the shooter know that you're human. Make sure he replies to you before moving around. Heck, he's already shooting at sound alone. He'll probably fill his draws at movement. If he continues to shoot, it's become self-defense as far as I'm concerned. There's no accounting for the stupid.
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Rich
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posted April 10, 2003 06:49 PM
Cdog911,
I sat here and thought about your post for a couple of minutes before deciding to say anything.
I could tell you some stories alright but most guys wouldn't believe em anyway. I have been attacked by several young men at same time, attacked by women, been spit on, kicked at, punched at, had knives drawn on me and had a .357 magnum drawn on me at very close quarters. I don't believe that I was ever shot at but have seen a lot of folks that had been killed or badly wounded. I have never killed anyone that I know of but I did hurt a guy's feelings real bad once or twice. I have seen too much in my time, and that is for certain.
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varmit hunter
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posted April 11, 2003 06:26 AM
Rich. I am afraid I have had to many experiences like you. No one would believe them.
When I first started calling. There were a lot of folks who ran Fox with dogs around here. They had a big dislike for me. Cut tires, Guns in the face, Treating phone calls, Etc.
On the several occasions that unintentional bullets have come my way. I have found that I have a automatic response. You stupid S.O.B. is my first response. My next is determined by them.
Intentional bullets are dealt with on a individual bases. You need to remember I live in South East Texas. We have had several Game Wardens murdered here. You may not be very far from the pavement, But you can be a long way from civilization
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Leonard
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posted April 11, 2003 05:23 PM
I had a couple of drunk cowboys who were up to no good, chase me and my dad, one night, up in northern Nevada. Out in the middle of nowhere, (literally) they rolled up and started chatting with us, then followed us for a while, sizing us up.
They started playing a game whenever we pulled to the side and waved them by, they just pulled over also, and sat behind us, bright lights, etc. Many times; five or six attempts to get them off our tail. Finally, we took off at a good clip and they stayed with us until they had to slow down, because they couldn't see the road, with all the dust.
Once, maybe five miles down the road, we thought we lost them and stopped to look around, and a couple minutes later, they came roaring up on us from off the road, lights off. Scared us pretty bad, they just missed us, so we took off again with them right on our tail. This time we were really traveling, maybe 60/70MPH, putting some distance between us, while earnestly discussing the situation.
Finally, I had had enough, and decided that we would make one last attempt to lose them. I was looking for just the right features on the inside of a curve, where his lights wouldn't shine and show our tracks where we crossed the berm.
When I found it, I signaled my dad to hit the lights and ride on out into the sagebrush where we made a hasty deployment; waited, gun and spotlight ready. I decided that I might try to put out both headlights, if they slowed down, and noticed where we cut off.
I knew that they wouldn't be able to keep up without lights, and we had thirty some miles to the blacktop, and could easily get the hell out of the area before anything serious happened. I figured we could do a good job of blinding them with the spotlight, and then yell or threaten them to back off, and if they still continued, well.....
Anyway, they missed us! What a relief! I wasn't entirely sure that I wanted to hurt anybody, but I was sure they were armed. However, they had no way of knowing that we had them severely outgunned.
We laid low for ten minutes or so, nervous as heck, before we eased out of there without lights. We reported the incident to the County Sheriff about an hour later. As close as I ever want to come!
Good hnting. LB
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Lonny
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posted April 11, 2003 09:30 PM
Thats quite the story Leonard. Good thing you were armed cause you just never know how things might play out. My wife and kids and I do a bunch of camping, hiking, and outdoor stuff during the summer. The wife used to fret about bears, lions, snakes, and such. I always told her the most dangerous critters are the drunk two legged kind looking for trouble.
A guy I work with was fishing a mountain stream and was approached by three shady looking characters. Luckly he was packing a handgun, and when he had enough of their pretending to be just curious about the fishing. He made sure they got a glimpse of his .357 in the shoulder holster under his jacket. They left in a hurry. To bad the next guy the three hoods encountered several miles down the road wasn't armed because they killed and robbed that poor fellow.
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Curt2u
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posted April 12, 2003 07:31 AM
Morning fellas! Well looks like a few of you have had the same thing happen. I've had two other instances during deer season where shots came very close also.
One time I took a shot at a buck on our property. The buck was farther than I thought and I shot under him. He ran to the right and stopped again. Then I hear a shot from the tree line behind him. A guy that owns ten acres on the other side of the fence was using the fencepost for a rest. His shot went just a few feet over my head. I'm standing in the open in plain view. I returned the favor and tried another shot at the buck. It staggered a few feet and dropped. We got to the buck at the same time. Evidently my grandfather had told him he could hunt the area adjoining his property. He insisted he hit it. I assured him he did not. We rolled the deer over and the only mark was facing his position. This was years ago when I was pretty young and dumb. Had not killed a lot of deer. He convinced me that the wound was an entrance wound. I had two weeks left to hunt and the buck wasn't as nice as I thought, so I gave in. While going home it was starting to eat on me. I knew I hit that deer. I went to his camp that evening. He had the deer hanging in a tree. I told him I wasn't there to cause trouble but just wanted to look at the deer. He said no problem. I explained that while heading home thinking about things, it didn't make sense. If he had hit the deer, why did his bullet go zinging over my head and no reaction from the deer. Looking in the body cavity it was obvious that the hole we saw earlier was an exit wound. Then we found the small pencil sized hole on the side that was facing me. He said "I suppose you want the deer". I said "no, I just knew I shot it and wanted to see for myself." I would have not been as understanding these days.
Another time deer hunting about five years ago I was at the top of a large hillside with a group of bucks below me. All of a sudden shots were zinging over my head from the bottom. I couldn't see who was doing the shooting but it was a looong ways away.
Back to this recent thing. After he fired his shots I stood up and popped him, left him for the coyotes, and am driving his truck now. LOL Just kidding!!
Actually in hindsight, and after reading all you fine fellas good advice, I probably handled it wrong. There was several large brush piles around. One was directly between me and him. Good thing or he may have shot directly in my direction. Anyway after his volley of shots, I popped a couple shots into a different brush pile that was to the side of both our positions and immediately yelled something like" hey you dumb bastard, there is somebody down here!" Then I got behind the tree and watched. I promptly heard his door slam, saw him back up, take a quick look in the woods, then pull out of the landing in no real hurry. In hindsight I probably should have just yelled, then went up and gave him a lecture. It was just so fast that I wasn't sure what he was doing.
If I could bore you with one more yarn, I promise to shut up. This is kind of funny. Years ago when my wife was in high school she had her boyfriend visiting at the house. Her brother, who was in his early teens at the time, decided he was going to sight in his .22. He threw a snowball at the side of an old out building no longer used and started shooting at the snowball mark. My wife's boyfriends new truck happened to be parked on the other side and each shot went into it. He felt like a real idiot. Of course I think it's funnier than heck.
Sorry so longwinded.
Take care guys, Curt
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Locohead
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posted April 13, 2003 10:22 PM
I know, I know, never point a gun at something you don't intend on destroying.
Once while in Junior High school, I found a BB gun in my girlfriend's garage. Her dad had been using it to scare away squirells. I pumped the gun once and aimed for her butt. She was about 10 yards away. I thought it would just kind of lob a little BB over at her hiney. You know, kinda just bounce off a little. But that BB went ZING, SNAP, and the poor gal went running into the house shouting that I'd just shot her. YIKES!!! Poor thing, Her dad told me he always kept the BB in the chamber with 20 pumps and ready to go. SHEEEEESH!!!!! Poor girl had a giant welt. She even let us all see right there in front of everyone. LOL
I'll never point a gun that way again!
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