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Posted by walt (Member # 20) on March 20, 2003, 06:03 PM:
want to do some coyote hunting this year in yuma az while i'm down there dove hunting, anyone suggest an area around yuma.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on March 20, 2003, 07:04 PM:
maybe north of Dome Valley? Dove opener around Yuma is a bad time to try and call coyotes.
Good hunting. LB
Posted by onecoyote (Member # 129) on March 21, 2003, 02:41 PM:
I would have to agree with Leonard. Although I was on a pheasant hunt a few years back when the Fish and Game planted the birds and almost as fast as they planted them the coyotes were eating them. I'm not sure who got the most, the coyotes or the hunters. ![[Frown]](frown.gif)
I believe that smart coyotes love dove season ( wounded birds = free meals ) ducks make tasty free meals too. Something to think about, ![[Wink]](wink.gif)
Good Hunting.
Posted by Lone Howl (Member # 29) on March 21, 2003, 06:19 PM:
Yep, we have a Lions club pheasant hunt here around the Pixley area and the night before the opener they throw out the birds into crop fields that area farmers give the ok to hunt. Opening morning there's a lot of fat coyotes around.
Posted by onecoyote (Member # 129) on March 21, 2003, 09:26 PM:
Lone Howl, that's where I'm talking about.....Pixley.....Maybe ten years ago...been there done that one. By the way, I saw a white coyote on that hunt, only one I ever seen and I've seen a few, Good Hunting.
Posted by Lone Howl (Member # 29) on March 21, 2003, 09:41 PM:
Ill be darn.I live right thar.And by the way I have seen a handfull of whities around here.Dont know whats up with that.Gene pool maybe.
What the hell were you doin here in Hooterville anyway?This is armpit country.
Posted by Frank (Member # 6) on March 23, 2003, 06:20 PM:
onecoyote, Leonard;
I'll second the motion not to hunt just before or during the dove opener. I did that a number of years back and was promply busted by an overzealous fish and game puke. He took all my guns, gear and the like and put me under arrest. Said I was hunting too close to a road as an excuse to bust me. He didn't take me in but for awhile I was under arrest. I showed him the fish an game regs showing him I was legal but he refused to listen. It cost me $1400 to fight him in court.
I won the case. The presiding judge decided in my favor and ordered the arresting fish and game officer to "personally" deliver my guns and gear to my home right along with his apology for screwing up and arresting me. Only thing that could have made it better was if he were also ordered to repay my court costs.
Don't hunt for predators anytime near the dove opener!
Posted by Rich Higgins (Member # 3) on March 23, 2003, 06:32 PM:
Early dove season shooting hours end at noon. We take our limit and then scout until after 12. Whenthe dove hunters head for town we start calling. We've never had a problem with Game officers. I talk to everyone of them that I can and pump them for information. All have been co-operative and I've enjoyed the visit and company of several. Do not shoot from , across, or onto a road or railroad, and do not shoot within one quarter mile of an occupied building and you should be fine. Officers consider the shoulder to be part of the road. Get OFF the road.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on March 23, 2003, 06:39 PM:
Rich, I have never heard this about Frank, but I have no trouble believing what he says. One word: CA Tags!
Good hunting. LB
Posted by walt (Member # 20) on March 23, 2003, 06:50 PM:
Rich, what type of calls would you suggest.Know if the oranges groves hold alot of coyotes.
Last year while dove hunting late in the moring had a coyote bolt out of a orange grove right across an open filed. Wish'n I had something other than a shotgun.
Posted by onecoyote (Member # 129) on March 24, 2003, 11:55 AM:
Lone Howl, armpit country hehehe, ok. I'd say you're about right too, as I recall I sleep in the back of my truck with my shotgun the night before the hunt. I only hunted there once and I have no idea of ever going back, except for one of them white coyotes maybe, Good Hunting.
Posted by Az-Hunter (Member # 17) on March 24, 2003, 02:10 PM:
To the observers of the white coyotes....I want to separate the fly **** from the pepper? Were these truly white/albino coyotes, or just very pale silver coyotes???? I have seen a pic or two of true albino coyotes, but these are usually eastern coyotes. I have never seen nor heard of a albino coyote in Az.....please elaborate. I suspect to many tall-boys had an effect on onecoyotes observations:) ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
~AzHunter~
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"Most coyotes act the same....in most situations"
Posted by Rich Higgins (Member # 3) on March 24, 2003, 03:36 PM:
I shot a white coyote north of Phoenix a few years ago. It wasn't albino, eyes, lips and toe pads were normal color, but it was absolutely pure white with no markings. I sent the photo to Bruce Kennedy 4 years ago and he posted it on the Shade Tree. Maybe he has a copy or archived it.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on March 24, 2003, 03:41 PM:
Color phases. Normal reds and heavy pales and silver grays. Every once in a while you see something different. I have seen a couple, one was a brindle brown and black, and another appeared to be very dark except for the legs, but I didn't get either one, for purposes of examination.
I saw a coyote killed by my partner, that had at least four different colors, (like a black Collie), ranging from tan to brown, black and white. He still has it on a wall in his den.
I did see a blonde cased pelt in the Mathews and Sons Gun Shop, in Downey. I talked to the guy that killed it, works at the store. I forget his name right now, used to see him at the range occasionally, but he never belonged to a Club. He told me that he killed the blonde out in Boron, behind the Federal Prison. A little lighter in color than Bruce Kennedy's yellow lab, for those that recall.
I saw a very light coyote just north-east of Death Valley, on the Nevada side. I couldn't call it white or even blonde, but he was certainly a "palomino". I never even got a shot off on him, but I watched him through the scope for quite a distance.
White has to be a rare color, other than wolves?
For my money, the silver grays found in the upper part of the Owens Valley are the handsomest.
Good hunting. LB
Posted by onecoyote (Member # 129) on March 24, 2003, 05:20 PM:
Az Hunter, the coyote I saw was pure white, ![[Eek!]](eek.gif)
I have no idea if it was albino, I know how rare an albino anything is. All I know is I saw a pure white coyote and Lone Howl says they have been seen before in that area. ![[Confused]](confused.gif)
I had my rifle with me and I could have shot it, but there is no discharging of rifles in that area plus (the fact it was on the other side of a fence). I did see it really well in my scope, it was white as snow, maybe a couple hundred yards or so out. To be honest, I'm not sure I would have shot it even if I could have. Leonard, I saw Granville at the Victorville gun show Saterday, first time I've seen him in years. He told me he had a quadruple heart bypass showed me the scare and he's only 55, scary huh? He told me his club is still going and invited me to a metting. I told him I ain't going on the other side of those mountians for nothing. The good thing is that he looks ok and he says he feels great. Good Hunting.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on March 24, 2003, 06:58 PM:
That's scary, Danny. I haven't seen Granville in at least three, more like four years? I thought he was older than that? Are they still meeting at the Norwalk Denny's?
Where the heck is Pixley? Sounds like somewhere close to Mayberry or Green Acres. Pettycoat Junction?
Good hunting. LB
PS anybody else see that white coyote, that was with you?
Posted by Lone Howl (Member # 29) on March 24, 2003, 09:18 PM:
LB take a left at Hooterville and your there. ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
BTW Pixley and Hooterville (which is fictitious) are the towns mentioned in the Green Acres tv show.
Wish I had a nickle for everytime I ve heard "where the heck is Pixley?".
I also dont hunt the Pixley pheasant hunt anymore.The tags were about 85 bucks last year, I usually get em free from farmers here but theres to many out of towners that come and party all Friday night and go hunting Sat morning.Lots of close calls and yelling, people getting shot at etc. Pretty sad.The good thing is some of the good ones are looking for someone to take em yote hunting and will pay pretty good for a "guide".Just dont get caught without a guides license ![[Roll Eyes]](rolleyes.gif)
Danny if you ever get brave enough to come out this way again let me know, we can chase the elusive white coyotes together.Ill show you my famous I5 coyote hunting areas,(blindfolded on the way out of course)
Posted by onecoyote (Member # 129) on March 25, 2003, 05:59 PM:
Lone Howl, you got 15 good places to hunt coyotes? Dang, I only got one. It's on the Tule Indian rez, just a little south of Porterville hehehe ....Leonard, yes the meetings are still at the same Dennys and I was by myself when I saw that coyote. Pixley is about 15 or 20 miles before you get to Tulare on old 99, Good Hunting.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on March 25, 2003, 06:23 PM:
Okay, I changed my mind.
How do I get to Pedley? ![[Cool]](cool.gif)
Thanks for the info, Lone Howl. Never been around Pixley, but I pulled that Green Acres from somewhere, way back! I used to hunt with a guy name of Ronnie Farkas back in the 70s, and his uncle was Alvy Moore who was a Government Agent (something like that?) on that show. I used to watch it if I could find the time. I liked the show, some of that stuff cracked me up. Low brow, but fun entertainment.
Good hunting. LB
PS I'm kidding; I know where Pedley is.
Posted by Lone Howl (Member # 29) on March 25, 2003, 06:29 PM:
No no,I5,as in Intersate 5.Lots of dogs out there.But yes, I have 15 spots and then some
And you better not be on the rez there.Those are also my stomping grounds my friend. Thats my number one spot
Posted by Lone Howl (Member # 29) on March 25, 2003, 06:47 PM:
BTW I work in Tulare and Im moving to Porterville later this year.If anyone gets this way let me know, we can shake and howdy!
Posted by onecoyote (Member # 129) on March 26, 2003, 12:03 PM:
I was hunting around that rez. in the 60s, Note: I said around and not on. Lots of cats some longtail ones too, a few fox and some coyotes. Lone Howl, Poterville is a great place to live. I'm sure you know where the Pondarosa is on top of the mountian, I worked at a pack station up there in 71 and 72. Thats where I called in a double on bears, first ones I ever called in. Great hunting and fishing country up there, Good Hunting.
Posted by Lone Howl (Member # 29) on March 26, 2003, 06:09 PM:
Dang Onecoyote, you been around!
That rez does have a lot of animals in and around it.TONS of bobcats.I hunt around Pine Flat and California Hot Springs for bobs.LOTS of bear up in this mountain range.A friend of mine has a son that guides for bear up here, gets about 40-50 a year with dogs.
Yep, been around the Ponderosa a bunch.
That rez is downright spooky sometimes,I could tell some stories but I doubt anyone would believe me!
I also hunt up in Balch Park.
[ March 26, 2003, 06:11 PM: Message edited by: Lone Howl ]
Posted by onecoyote (Member # 129) on March 26, 2003, 07:04 PM:
Lone Howl, I've been around more then you think.
Posted by Lone Howl (Member # 29) on March 26, 2003, 09:29 PM:
OK thats it,Im lockin'my wife up now
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on March 27, 2003, 06:43 AM:
A wise move, LH. With as many ex-wives as he has, (I think he's tied; all time, with Andy Rooney and Elizabeth Taylor?) he's obviously quite a spellbinder with the ladies! LB
Posted by Frank (Member # 6) on March 29, 2003, 07:29 PM:
What some of you guys might not realize is that Danny used to organize fishing derby's on the west coast. If you want a world class fishing trip in areas from Baja to San Francisco you would be hard pressed to find someone more knowledgable than Danny (onecoyote) about where to fish and HOW to fish! Don't take my word for it though.......If you can sweet talk him into going (not that hard to do) you will probly be in for the fishing treat of your life!!! How can I say that? Because I know him!
PS....Danny, when are we going to take that Baja fishing trip we've talked about for so many years?
Posted by onecoyote (Member # 129) on March 30, 2003, 04:20 PM:
I'd love to go again, it's been so long. I can say this much, the fishing is great and it's the only place on earth you can fish for and catch coyotes on a rod and reel, Good Hunting.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on March 30, 2003, 06:39 PM:
If you like to fish, and you haven't been to Cabo, it's like the best fishing on earth. Unbelievable! Count me in. LB
Posted by onecoyote (Member # 129) on March 31, 2003, 06:09 AM:
I don't think I want to get married anymore, I'll stick with the one I got. She's tuff and can spot animals better then me. Frank, I was born with a fishing rod in my hands. First fish I caught, I was four years old. Leonard is right about Cabo, catching fish there is not hard to do and a guy can have a great time besides just fishing. My fishing is surf fishing off the beaches of Baja. I have a place I go that I catch white sea bass 25 to 50+ lbs off the beach. It is very remote but one of the most beautiful places I have ever been, Good Hunting.
Posted by Lone Howl (Member # 29) on March 31, 2003, 05:19 PM:
When do we leave?
Posted by onecoyote (Member # 129) on March 31, 2003, 06:01 PM:
Lone Howl, If you and the other guys really want to go, I'll set a trip up for next year. This time of year is just right for the sea bass. You'll need a week off from work, two weeks are even better. Everybody will have to invest in some new fishing gear (no two piece rods, you'll break em....no spinning reels), you'll have to learn to use a conventional reel, the bigger fish will blow up a spinning reel. Also, buy a couple of 150 quart ice chests. The only way to get there is by 4x4, so depending on how many people go, we need enough 4x4s. There is alot more to it but a year is long enough to get it all together. Let me tell you this, everyone I have ever taken down there has wanted to go back. One more thing, I only show guys one time how to rig up, after that I'm fishing and don't have the time to help anybody. Also from the border, it's about a 12 hr drive. It's close to 500 miles past the border on the pacific side, so you'll need a visa (they are easy to get)and a Mexican fishing lic. I think you can get them at Turners sporting goods. Mind you, I have not been down there for several years, things change in Mexico, but I'll find out what's going on. If you guys really want to go, let me know. If someone tells me how, I'll post some pics. I never took to many but I think you'll like em and you'll get the idea. Who speaks Spanish? I know all the bad words.
Posted by Lone Howl (Member # 29) on March 31, 2003, 08:49 PM:
I knew I shouldnt have opened my mouth.I always wanted to surffish down there.I love to fish and surf fishing is awsome.
Unfortunatly I dont have that much ( or any) time off since I started a new job.But damn, you sure got me salivating!
Posted by catskin (Member # 51) on March 31, 2003, 09:11 PM:
err, I love Baja!
If the invitations open I'll be there. I wasn't looking for a job when I got this one anyway.
Danny if you want I can host any pictures you want, just email them to me and I'll send you the links to use in your posts.
[ March 31, 2003, 09:13 PM: Message edited by: catskin ]
Posted by Frank (Member # 6) on March 31, 2003, 09:23 PM:
Well, Danny;
If Lone Howl knew what he was in for he would MAKE time to be there. It isn't often that one gets an invite to attend a world class fishing opportunity. As for me, count me in! I don't care how much it costs....I'm going!
Most of all I look forward to campfires on the beach, tequila, bull$hit and the best fishing there is. I never been but I know and have heard the stories. When are we going?
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on April 01, 2003, 04:12 PM:
You see that dorado? It seems like there are about ten of them, just like it, under every piece of floating debris, no matter how small? Hard to explain. They are just off the coast; Sea of Cortez. And right under the dorado are the Ahi, (yellowfin tuna). Unbelievable fishing; I can't talk about it, anymore!
White seabass are about the best tasting fish you will find. Easterners: you will probably feed your "walleyes" to the cat, after you eat white seasbass.
Danny, any roosterfish in your secret spot? LB
Posted by Lone Howl (Member # 29) on April 01, 2003, 05:31 PM:
Im really getting ![[Mad]](mad.gif)
Posted by Lone Howl (Member # 29) on April 01, 2003, 05:32 PM:
I hate work.
Posted by onecoyote (Member # 129) on April 02, 2003, 07:13 AM:
No roosterfish around Guerrero Negro, to far north I think. I have cought bone fish in Laguna Manuela believe it or not. This area is around Bahia de Sebastian Vizcaino. The gray whales hang out there and you can hear them at night, if you never heard one before, you're in for a treat. I have seen pictures of white sea bass over 75 lbs taken off the beach down there and the world record is 81 lbs. To me, the thing that makes this place so special is it's so remote and you never know what you're going to catch, Good Hunting.
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