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Author Topic: What do you want? Gerald Stewart Knows what it's all about Member # 162 posted March 17, 2003 06:56 AM                   Hey Leonard, I hope this is the right place to ask this. The Calls and Gear section does not look too well attended as usual. I have been asked by Hunters Specialties to recommend some 4 sound combinations for the PreyMaster. I would welcome any input that your members would want to contribute. Throw out the 4 JS sounds you would like to have available. I will throw them in the mix for consideration. I have my favorites but I want to know what others want. Example: CT101G Vittle's A'La Jackrabbit CT163 Coyote Pup Distress CT168 Coywolf Bark\Howls CT103 Luring Lips ( close range call ) This is my first time over here and it looks like you guys have a real good forum. [ March 17, 2003, 06:56 AM: Message edited by: Gerald Stewart ] Posts: 419 | From: Waco,Tx | Registered: Mar 2003  |  IP: Logged Wiley E Knows what it's all about Member # 108 posted March 17, 2003 07:15 AM                    Hi Gerald, Lone Howl Any combination of distress sounds. Crows or Magpies for realism. Scott Huber Posts: 853 | From: Kadoka, S.D | Registered: Feb 2003  |  IP: Logged onecoyote Knows what it's all about Member # 129 posted March 17, 2003 07:16 AM                   Howdy Gerald, I have not seen you around for a long time, great to see you and don't feel bad, I'm not retired yet either hehehe. Your example of combinations look good to me, Good Hunting. -------------------- Great minds discuss ideas.....Average minds discuss events.....Small minds discuss people.....Eleanor Roosevelt. Posts: 893 | From: Walker Lake Nevada. | Registered: Feb 2003  |  IP: Logged Rich Higgins unknown comic posted March 17, 2003 09:53 AM              Hi Gerald, 1.Lone Howl 2. Group yip howl 3. Canine puppies(original) 4. Cottontail distress IP: Logged Crow Woman Knows what it's all about Member # 157 posted March 17, 2003 12:51 PM                    WileyE has a great idea for throwing in some crows for realism! I would also think for us easterners throwing in some wild turkey for first choice or crows would be great. I was just telling the guys that fawn in distress that I do with my mouth calls works beatifully for the areas I hunt. If you take any of my suggestions, let me know so that I can be the first one to purchase, thanks. Crow Woman -------------------- Sheri L Baity Lord, Please give me peace, because if you give me strength, I might beat someone to death! Posts: 720 | From: Covington | Registered: Mar 2003  |  IP: Logged Greenside seems to know what he is talking about Member # 10 posted March 17, 2003 01:55 PM                   Gerald, The same as Rich H. I really like that canine pups in distress. It works! I can't come close to duplicating that with a mouth call. You mentioned the Coy\Wolf. What's your experience with it. I think I could lose faith in that one. Never quite fiqured out what he's trying to say. Dennis Posts: 719 | From: IA | Registered: Jan 2003  |  IP: Logged UTcaller NEVADA NIGHT FIGHTER Member # 8 posted March 17, 2003 01:57 PM                    Gerald,welcome to the board.I'm glad you dropped by,I got a question for ya.I got me one of them there Preymaster callers.Great caller.I've got all the coyotes sounds #1-#5,and bobcat sounds.What I really want is the Raccoon sounds but no one seems to sell em,around here.Where can I get one.Thanks GOOD HUNTING Chad....... Also I'm with Wiley with the Crows/magpies sounds [ March 17, 2003, 02:03 PM: Message edited by: UTcaller ] Posts: 1708 | From: Utah | Registered: Jan 2003  |  IP: Logged Leonard HMFIC Member # 2 posted March 17, 2003 03:59 PM                       Well, Hi Gerald! Long time, no see! I know you're mighty busy, but anytime you want to drop in, you are most welcome. I've said it many times, you are a class guy; I'm glad to have you as a friend. As to the question: I don't have the numbers in front of me, but I can probably generalize? If limited to four sounds: 1) grown jack 2) gray fox pup distress 3) canine puppies 4) yellowhammer 5) coyotes fighting over food -------------------- EL BEE Knows It All and Done It All. Don't piss me off! Posts: 32365 | From: Upland, CA | Registered: Jan 2003  |  IP: Logged 20t-n-t Knows what it's all about Member # 46 posted March 17, 2003 09:59 PM                    Howdy Gerold and welcome, I agree with Rich H. [1.Lone Howl 2. Group yip howl 3. Canine puppies(original) Except that I would like someone to stand on a jack real hard for #4 Bad hurtin Jack Smote the Yote Slydog Richard W. Gipson -------------------- Teach a kid to hunt and fish and feed them for a lifetime...... Posts: 245 | From: Boise Idaho USA | Registered: Jan 2003  |  IP: Logged Steve Craig Lacks Opposable Thumbs/what's up with that? Member # 12 posted March 18, 2003 12:01 AM                   1. Coyotes fighting over food 2. Ravens fighting over food 3. Porqupine Distress 4. Groundhog Distress Opps! Wrong company! Just couldn't resist! Steve -------------------- Yes, we did produce a near-perfect republic. But will they keep it? Or will they, in the enjoyment of plenty, lose the memory of freedom? Material abundance without character is the path of destruction. - Thomas Jefferson Posts: 442 | From: Cottonwood,Az, USA | Registered: Jan 2003  |  IP: Logged Frank CAN START A FIRE WITH A BUCK KNIFE AND A ROCK Member # 6 posted March 18, 2003 03:26 AM                       I've never had much luck with either real high pitched or real low pitched sounds. For example, Super Jack is a sound that doesn't work too well for me. Same with the high pitched Quail tape. Not sure at the moment who makes these sounds. Keep in mind that this is a non-scientific evaluation coming from just one man's experience so take it for what it's worth. "Yellowhammer" works well for me, so does "Jackrabbit in Distress". One thing I've always wanted to see would be more "quiet" areas on the tapes. Not long quiet areas but more short ones. Constant, non-stop calling works, as you know, but I think it might be better with more short, quiet periods on the tape. I have no experience to base that on other than using a hand call. I can't call non-stop with a hand call so I've got more short quiet periods in my calling sequences. Hand calls work great and I can't but help wonder if a tape patterened after one wouldn't be better? I would think that this might distinguish the tape from the miriad of others that also have non-stop sounds. -------------------- "Truth is no prostitute, that throws herself away upon those who do not desire her; she is rather so coy a beauty that he who sacrifices everything to her cannot even then be sure of her favor". Posts: 644 | From: North Dakota | Registered: Jan 2003  |  IP: Logged Gerald Stewart Knows what it's all about Member # 162 posted March 18, 2003 06:40 AM                   Say hey Leonard, looks like we are trying to get a seminar together for the 1st week in June at the gun club. HS is working with Turners on this. If it comes about, I hope we can hook up while I am out there. Steve, you make me jealous throwing out titles like that. Wish I had them...then again what good is it just having titles if they don't work. Just kidding...couldn't resist that. ;-) Thanks for the input fella's these are good suggestions and we will take them to heart. Good job with the board Leonard. Looks refreshingly civil compared to what I used to wade into. Posts: 419 | From: Waco,Tx | Registered: Mar 2003  |  IP: Logged Rich Higgins unknown comic posted March 18, 2003 09:58 AM              Gerald, if you miss the excitement of the good ol' days, just say so. We can take care of you. ( hint, just tell Wiley that you understand all lone howls) IP: Logged Leonard HMFIC Member # 2 posted March 18, 2003 04:57 PM                       Gerald, I'd be honored, just give me a date. You know, if I had another choice, I would have listed Ravens! Coyote howls, I think they should be interjected at will, with a howler. If I only have four choices, I can improvise the coyote sounds, as required. Just my opinion. Rich Higgins: Good hunting. LB PS, I know you have had a bad experience with message boards, but nobody is going to mess with you, I guarantee it. Everybody is very happy to see you test the waters, no matter how briefly. -------------------- EL BEE Knows It All and Done It All. Don't piss me off! Posts: 32365 | From: Upland, CA | Registered: Jan 2003  |  IP: Logged Lone Howl Free Trial Platinum Member & part-time language police Member # 29 posted March 18, 2003 06:43 PM                    Yeah! Welcome and come back now,ya hear? -------------------- When tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty. Posts: 2083 | From: Texas | Registered: Jan 2003  |  IP: Logged Crow Woman Knows what it's all about Member # 157 posted March 19, 2003 05:22 AM                    I'd like to third that please and add, it's a pleasure to chew the fat with you! Crow Woman -------------------- Sheri L Baity Lord, Please give me peace, because if you give me strength, I might beat someone to death! Posts: 720 | From: Covington | Registered: Mar 2003  |  IP: Logged Greenside seems to know what he is talking about Member # 10 posted March 19, 2003 05:36 AM                   Gerald, I think Leonard has has a valid point on the howls. A guy could always throw some in with a hand call or howler, if needed. It's hard to duplicate the multi-directional function of a howler with an electronic. Maybe a card with four good sounds that can't or are hard to duplicate with a hand call. Welcome to the board! Looks like the link worked for you. Dennis Posts: 719 | From: IA | Registered: Jan 2003  |  IP: Logged Bob in TX Knows what it's all about Member # 66 posted March 19, 2003 06:23 AM                      Hey Gerald, Male Challenge Howl 101-C Jackrabbit Yellowhammered Woodpecker Crow Frenzy This would cover a lot of bases. Bob (Gerald-It is nice to see that you are not spending ALL of your time on the golf course! ) [ March 19, 2003, 06:24 AM: Message edited by: Bob in TX ] Posts: 51 | From: San Antonio, Texas | Registered: Jan 2003  |  IP: Logged Gerald Stewart Knows what it's all about Member # 162 posted March 19, 2003 06:31 AM                   I will let you know Leonard as it develops. Thanks for the warm and fuzzy welcome board members. Justifying the time on the boards is harder now than it was way back. In addition to my duties to Hunters Specialties I am starting a new business that is not related to this industry so I am pulled two different directions. I really need 28 hours in a day. I will try to jump on when I can but I suspect it will be most often when I have the need to pick your brains. That sounds pretty selfish but a sad reality when I wish it could be more for relaxing fireside chats with the calling brotherhood. Thanks for the input on the sounds. You have helped hone my focus.Till later...... Posts: 419 | From: Waco,Tx | Registered: Mar 2003  |  IP: Logged Gerald Stewart Knows what it's all about Member # 162 posted March 19, 2003 06:38 AM                   Can't believe I am back so quick but Bob's input generated a question in my mind. Bob, give me some perspective on why you would want Frenzy versus Single Excited Crow. Do you feel that larger numbers of crow presence may enhance the confidence effect? I lean toward one or two crows in my perception of what might be desirable or am I splitting hairs? They both will work probably but would less be better? Anyone else have an opinion on that? Posts: 419 | From: Waco,Tx | Registered: Mar 2003  |  IP: Logged Crow Woman Knows what it's all about Member # 157 posted March 19, 2003 06:54 AM                    Gerald, my perspective on frenzy crows is... their call is much stronger and lasts longer, I think putting the coyote on a definate target of pin pointing where exactly meal time is located. I've seen that alot back east here. my 2 1/2 cents worth Crow Woman -------------------- Sheri L Baity Lord, Please give me peace, because if you give me strength, I might beat someone to death! Posts: 720 | From: Covington | Registered: Mar 2003  |  IP: Logged Wiley E Knows what it's all about Member # 108 posted March 19, 2003 09:15 AM                    Gerald, It would probably depend on what was natural to each area. In most of my cases, I would say one or two crows as you have suggested. In areas with more crows, more crows may be more natural. In areas of ravens, ravens may be more natural. Anyway, you get the picture. As I am sure you already know, there is usually no "one size fits all". RH: "Gerald, if you miss the excitement of the good ol' days, just say so. We can take care of you. ( hint, just tell Wiley that you understand all lone howls)" LMAO! Behave yourself Rich! Someone's gotta keep your feet on the ground. ~SH~ [ March 19, 2003, 09:36 AM: Message edited by: Wiley E ] Posts: 853 | From: Kadoka, S.D | Registered: Feb 2003  |  IP: Logged pup Knows what it's all about Member # 90 posted March 19, 2003 10:59 AM                   Gerald- I just want to tell you thank you. I was just getting started calling, in 1985. I lived in Robinson, Tx. at the time. I came to your shop and met you. You took time out of your busy schedule to talk with me. You tuned a couple of calls and gave them to me, I still have and use the bite call. You also took me into the sound library and handed me four sounds to try. I thanked you then for the products and the talk. I thank you now for the time you took and the impression that you made one me at that time. It is nice to have received some good information early in the game. Thanks again for you time later pup / Jim McGill I like the four that Rich Higgins listed. Posts: 213 | From: Oklahoma | Registered: Feb 2003  |  IP: Logged Jay Nistetter Legalize Weed, Free the Dixie Chicks Member # 140 posted March 19, 2003 11:37 AM                    Is it possible to have a custom order list of all the sounds to check off 4 for a custom approach? One guy may want a coyote howl and cottontail distress only for calling coyotes and use the other two sound slots for something entirely different like Hendrick's Foxy Lady or Mack The Knife. Maybe a headphone jack for private listening so mamma don't cut you off for making too much racket? Hello Gerald. It's been fairly quiet over here so try and behave yourself for once. -------------------- Understanding the coyote is not as important as knowing where they are. I usually let the fur prime up before I leave 'em lay. Posts: 1006 | From: Arizona | Registered: Feb 2003  |  IP: Logged Leonard HMFIC Member # 2 posted March 19, 2003 04:34 PM                       My take on what Bob had in mind; before he clarifies. Simple, he hunts crows. LB -------------------- EL BEE Knows It All and Done It All. Don't piss me off! Posts: 32365 | From: Upland, CA | Registered: Jan 2003  |  IP: Logged

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