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Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on March 13, 2003, 08:29 AM:
No, not howler, for this one. That's completely up to you.
I mean, as to hand calls: snowshoe, cottontail or jackrabbit....even if you don't have them in your area?
Closed reed, or open; such as a CritterCaller peewee?
I don't care; but you probably (consistantly) use one voice to begin a stand?
What is it?
Maybe none of the above?
Good hunting. LB
Posted by onecoyote (Member # 129) on March 13, 2003, 09:07 AM:
Been using one of them (Call of the wild) Circe cottontail for years. Hell, we used to get tons of them free at the state dinner dances, Leonard you remember picking them up off the dance floor. I never was real big on what type of call I used, I was more interested in the areas I was hunting in. If the animals were there, it didn't matter to much what you sounded like. People rely too much on what they sound like and I don't think it's necessary, Good Hunting.
Posted by Crow Woman (Member # 157) on March 13, 2003, 09:10 AM:
always open reed for me. It's either a fawn call or I get the swawk box out and do some turkey. But I think hands down what gets them almost every time here in the hills of Pennsylvania has got to be the fawn in distress call, no matter what time of year.
Crow Woman
Is this what you were getting at Leonard?? If not, pass it off as a blonde moment, please, thanks you. I'm going back to my hole now.
Posted by Rich Higgins (Member # 3) on March 13, 2003, 09:18 AM:
I agree with Danny that most any distress sound will bring in less educated coyotes. Not so with heavily called areas in which surviving coyotes hear distress calls almost every day of the week. I wish everyone used just Circe cottontail calls. It would make it much easier for me. Danny, how long has it been since you called around the Phoenix area?
Posted by onecoyote (Member # 129) on March 13, 2003, 09:18 AM:
Crow Woman, Welcome to this forum what a suprize.
Posted by Crow Woman (Member # 157) on March 13, 2003, 09:24 AM:
Thank You OneCoyote. I've been away from hunting for a couple of years and didn't feel right hanging around with hunters. But three weeks ago, that changed and now I can say, I'm proud to be among all of you... smiles
Crow Woman
Posted by onecoyote (Member # 129) on March 13, 2003, 09:33 AM:
Rich, I never hunted to close to Phoenix, I kinda thought it would be like hunting close to LA. I have hunted around Wickenburg, thats about as close as I got. I do know what you're saying about hard hunted areas with the same old sounds. The way I sound on a call, most coyotes have never heard such a sound. Kinda like a dying buzzard and a mule all wrapped up in one, unique sound I must admit, ![[Wink]](wink.gif)
Good Hunting.
Posted by Maineiac (Member # 21) on March 13, 2003, 09:45 AM:
Welcome to the board Crow Woman
Posted by Crow Woman (Member # 157) on March 13, 2003, 10:00 AM:
Thanks Maineiac... although I do like the title Grizzled veteran much better...lol
How does one place a pic?
Well, I'm off for the hills. Have a great night.
Crow Woman
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edit: Crow Woman?
Welcome to the New Huntmasters. I can't imagine what would force you to swear off hunters for two whole years?
and my fault; I forgot about the "eastern" situation. I seldom bother with a fawn bleat unless I'm hunting high timber. But, okay. That's an option, if you have no faith whatsoever, in distressed rabbit calls.
Good hunting. LB
[ March 13, 2003, 10:37 AM: Message edited by: Leonard ]
Posted by 20t-n-t (Member # 46) on March 13, 2003, 11:15 AM:
Crow Woman, Welcome to the New Huntmasters BBS,
Its good to see more and more gals on the board. Are you a hunter? If so what gun and caliber do you shoot? Please let an inquiring mind know?
I almost always want my Rrrraspy Jack hand made closed reed or my AP-7 open reed.
Smote the Yote
Slydog ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
[ March 14, 2003, 01:45 AM: Message edited by: 20t-n-t ]
Posted by UTcaller (Member # 8) on March 13, 2003, 12:04 PM:
I'm with most of you guys,any distress sound will work.I have been using only 2 calls(distress) for the last 10 years or so,The Sceery AP-6 variable and the AP-7 open reed calls,they make every sound imaginable and I have had great success with them.Before that I used circe closed reed cottontail,and Sceery closed reed jackrabbit calls.I definitely like the open reed,and variable calls better.They don't freeze up as easy and you can make more varieties of sounds.Just my 2 cents.GOOD HUNTING Chad.....
[ March 13, 2003, 12:06 PM: Message edited by: UTcaller ]
Posted by onecoyote (Member # 129) on March 13, 2003, 12:08 PM:
Guys, Crow Woman is no ordinary female.....First of all she maybe able to out shoot most of us to start with ![[Frown]](frown.gif)
.....and to top that......I seen a picture of her with a 60lb coyote she called in, ![[Eek!]](eek.gif)
one of many she has taken. This lady has also wrote a book about coyote hunting, it's called (Coyote Hunting Farm Style). Crow Woman, I'm happy to see you back and doing better.
Posted by Krustyklimber (Member # 72) on March 13, 2003, 02:34 PM:
Yup,
Here's the results of her skills...
That's a mighty fine lookin' coyote there ma'am... (Krusty tips his hat)
Jeff 
Posted by Krustyklimber (Member # 72) on March 13, 2003, 02:44 PM:
Oh yeah,
I almost forgot, in all this girly stuff...
I almst always start a stand with either the squeeker in my K&H #927 2 in 1 squeezebulb call tube, or the close range call in my Circe 3 in 1.
I do this to not scare away anybody close, but recent discussions of this have caused me to do some rethinking.
The only thing I do on a stand with any consistency is... no harm to the coyote population.
Jeff
[ March 13, 2003, 02:45 PM: Message edited by: Krustyklimber ]
Posted by Rich Higgins (Member # 3) on March 13, 2003, 04:51 PM:
Cool photo. Crow Woman, how did you train the coyote to sit like that, with the punishment or the reward system? Is that the 60 lb. coyote?
Posted by Lone Howl (Member # 29) on March 13, 2003, 05:28 PM:
Welcome Crow Women!
Posted by Az-Hunter (Member # 17) on March 13, 2003, 08:41 PM:
I ALWAYS have my Cronk open reed antler call hung around my neck.I seldom use a mouth call anymore, but when the need or desire wells up, I can make just about any sound I want to with it. Its forte is small rabbit distress, but it can play passable howls,barks, whines and fawn bleats. In the zippered pouch on my stool, there is a Nistetter closed reed cottontail call always at hand too.
Posted by Crow Woman (Member # 157) on March 13, 2003, 09:52 PM:
Thanks Guys, it's great to be back! Leonard, we have tons of rabbits around but I have yet to hear them talk much. So after spending countless hours, well years out there at night, I found the faws do the most bleeting, which in turn calls the coyotes. So I got rid of the blonde hairs for a moment and started mimicking the fawns and what do you know, it looks like the coyotes back east here love venison maybe even more than I do... grins. I've also noticed that just before the turkeys leave the fields to roost for the night, they do an awful lot of squacking and almost never fails to call in a coyote. I just kinda learned from my own although odd kinda way what works for me anyway... smiles
Now to answer your other question about not hunting for two years. My Dad died and along with his death, so did I. He was my hunting partner, best friend, fishing buddy, hero. I had to take the last two years to learn how to walk on my own and hunt without him in a physical sense. Well three weeks ago, I decided to visit his hunting shanty, something I haven't been able to do since his crossing. Legs were a little wobbly but I did it anyway. Set up stand and at 5:45pm the coyote in the pic came out on the field and stood there. So I took one for my Dad and now I'm back. I just got home from taking another one. I'll wait til morning to see what I got.
Crow Woman
Posted by Crow Woman (Member # 157) on March 13, 2003, 10:01 PM:
The coyote was setting up all nice and purty cause I waited til the next morning to play fetch. Hunting by myself and that close to dark, the last thing I want to do is chase a possible wounded coyote into brush, so I let him go off and I go retrieve at first light. That's not the 60lber. The one pictured was a lightweight. I think he was a growing boy. His body structure is big along with his paws but he only weighed in at 32lbs. So I do believe he was going to be something big had he of lived. My 60lb coyote has a 5 1/2 foot stretch from nose to tail. I skinned him out and have him on my living room wall.
My choice of gun has always been my 243 Winchester model 70. Perfect for me, the most I shoot out is maybe 380 yards and that's pushing it just to the end of my fields.
Did I forget any other questions? hmmm...
oh yea, Danny, I just one of the guys, that's all, nothing more and nothing less. It's great to be back!
Crow Woman
Posted by Frank (Member # 6) on March 14, 2003, 02:01 PM:
What's the first thing I reach for?
Well, its got to be my jackrabbit in distress tape. After that it's my medium range Circe.
Some of you probly heard this story before but years ago I used to practice with a .22 long rifle on running jackrabbits. One time I hit a jack in the hind quarters so the shot didn't kill it right away. As I was walking up to the jack it started crying for all the world just like a human baby would cry. Kind of a wwwwaaaaaaaaaaa........wwwwaaaaaaaaaa........... wwwwaaaaaaaaa...wwwwaaaaaaaaaaa.................
My Circe duplicates that sound pretty good.
Frank
Posted by Wiley E (Member # 108) on March 14, 2003, 08:50 PM:
What's the first thing I reach for?
My Ed Sceery open reed and my Cronk Howler......and my shooting sticks and my range finder and my Predator camo top and my butt pad, and my Sako and my spare shells and my dog leash and my hound dog and my binoculars, and my Garmin GPS, my Skoal, my snake medicine, and my.........
If I don't feel like getting real serious about it, I just grab my rifle and a few shells.
~SH~
Posted by moses man (Member # 76) on March 15, 2003, 04:35 PM:
welcome Crow Woman , this working out of town is really putting a cramp on my board time LOL. first thing i reach for , skoal Mint , Then Critr call mini , Critr call standard . some times a howler ( still waiting for a Higgins) HINT HINT . LOL . Sceery AP-6 is always with me also . if i cant call a critter in with one of those there aint none around .When i get lazy i reach for the fox pro .Jerry .
Posted by Ernest Sandoval (Member # 156) on March 15, 2003, 06:49 PM:
The farthest I have to reach for is into my pocket, I always carry a mouth dia., call, Its with me all the time.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on March 15, 2003, 07:11 PM:
WElcome to the New Huntmasters, Ernest. Glad to see you....and I like your choice! I feel mightly lonely when I mention that I like a good diaphram call.
Good hunting. LB
Posted by onecoyote (Member # 129) on March 16, 2003, 12:13 AM:
Ernest hi-yas and welcome, I was in Las Cruces not to long ago. Watched several Stealth fighters flying around the sand dunes, kinda cool. We were headed to Lordsburg then south to Animas to visit some relatives. I love New Mexico, it's a great place if you love the outdoors, Good Hunting.
Posted by Ernest Sandoval (Member # 156) on March 16, 2003, 07:08 AM:
Thanks for the welcome, all, I am known by "jeep" in other, forums, for some reason, all the stealth fighters are gone onecoyote, how could you, stand it, driving thru., all that prime coyote country, form Hollman to animas, and not hunt.
Posted by onecoyote (Member # 129) on March 16, 2003, 07:57 AM:
Ernest, I had my wife with me or I would have been hunting. I have hunted around Animas before for deer and predators, but the best looking place I seen for predators was that Rio Grande valley, it sure looks good but that don't mean it is. Good Hunting
Posted by Terry Hunter (Member # 58) on March 16, 2003, 11:03 AM:
Critr call standard.It works almost all the time.
Posted by UTcaller (Member # 8) on March 16, 2003, 11:53 AM:
Leonard, don't feel to lonely about the diaphram call,I always have one with me when I'm calling .A Sceery to be exact.Makes good howls and very decent distress sounds.GOOD HUNTING Chad....
Posted by Ernest Sandoval (Member # 156) on March 16, 2003, 06:48 PM:
Onecoyote, a month ago, I went north of town, loaded the rifle, and the fishing rod, in the jeep, in the morning,I did four stands, and call in six coyotes, got two, at noon, fished the river, which at that time the water at the dam was cut down, so theres fishing holes along the edges, caught 12 black bass, and 4 catfish, last year, at this hole we caught,over 30 blacks, any way I'm off the next three days, one day fishing for stripers at the lake, one day at home doing honey "dos", and one day calling.
Posted by Az-Hunter (Member # 17) on March 16, 2003, 09:05 PM:
Danny, tough to do much hunting around Animas anymore, especially south towards Cloverdale. Ole Drum Hadley(Busch heir) has most of the land sewed up in the south west corner of the state. Hell, during deer season he has a plane passing over the territory which radios back to ground crews if trespassers are located...real sob. East of town heading towards Columbus still holds some good calling country though. I had a good day last week calling around Rodeo/Portal area and up towards San Simon. As Im sure you noticed, southwester New Mexico is getting chopped up and sold off in 40 acre parcels....real shame.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on March 17, 2003, 03:43 PM:
I suppose now you are going to tell me that the cowboy bar in Hatchita don't have that two headed calf on the wall? Man, I used to love the road from Columbus to Tres Hermanos. I killed a monster bobcat along there, by the old train station.
Everything's going to hell, nowadays!
Good hunting. LB
PS ....still, I may go back, one of these days?
Posted by onecoyote (Member # 129) on March 17, 2003, 04:22 PM:
Ernest, I'm on my way and I got my fishing rods have the beer ready.....Leonard, the town of Hatchita is for sale I think, only a million dollers so I hear, I have never stopped at that bar, darn I missed one. Now the one in Rodeo I don't remember leaving, I don't think it's there anymore?....Az-Hunter, Dave at the ranch told me all about that guy that bought the old Gray Ranch, said the same things about him you did. He was also not to happy about the kind of people that are taking over the Portal, Rodeo area. I saw a bunch of 40 acres parcels for 12,000 dollers outside of Rodeo and within rock throughing distance to the Arizona side. We checked out a house on 20 acres about a couple hundred yards from New Mexico for 270,000 dollers? Then we got back in the truck and headed west hehehe. Good Hunting Guys.
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