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Posted by Terry Hunter (Member # 58) on March 09, 2003, 10:49 AM:
I just returned for feeding the cattle.A pair of coyotes were crossing the pasture and stopped about 25 yards from where I was standing.They showed now fear.This never happens when I am hunting.Do they know its safe because I was not holding anything in my hands?
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on March 09, 2003, 05:51 PM:
Hi Terry. My guess is that thee coyotes observe you, or someone like you do daily chores. and go about your business; and they do not interpret these movements as threatening. I can be changing a tire, or making coffee on the tailgate, and theyact completely different than if they see me make a movement such as shouldering a rifle. Maybe it's a sixth sense, but I think many animals, such as crows possess it, as well as humans?
Good hunting. LB
Posted by 20t-n-t (Member # 46) on March 09, 2003, 10:53 PM:
Terry,
Some scientists say that the human body produces an oder when its on hunt mode {adrenilyn}I'm not a scientist, just an aging coyote hunter. Over the years I've seen coyotes do many things that I will never be able to explain but I do think that they know whats thretining and whats not. Just carry your gun with you and don't make any sudden moves, the next time you see them, give'em hell in the form of terminal lead deposits
LOL ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
Smote that Yote
Slydog
Posted by onecoyote (Member # 129) on March 09, 2003, 11:43 PM:
God only knows what a coyote thinks....so does a 220 swift. ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
Now CROWS are a different story, get out of your truck to take a wezzz and the crow well watch ya, ![[Confused]](confused.gif)
if you take out a rifle or shotgun or anything that looks like one he's gone. ![[Frown]](frown.gif)
I hate crows, ![[Mad]](mad.gif)
Good Hunting.
Posted by WolverineAtWork (Member # 23) on March 10, 2003, 07:49 AM:
It's the same reason you fly by a cop on the side of the road while he's writing someone a ticket, you know he's busy doing something else.
Posted by Lonny (Member # 19) on March 10, 2003, 04:09 PM:
I tend to believe that animals have a "sixth sense" when it comes to sensing impending danger. I also think some animals like coyotes and whitetail deer for example have a much higher degree of it than others. Range seems to be a factor also, the closer the danger the easier it is to sense the danger.
Humans can do it. I have read some of the tales of Jim Corbett who made a living hunting man-eating tigers and leopards in India in the early part of the 19th century. No doubt about it, his sense of danger saved his life several times. I'm willing to bet our ancient ancestors had a much higher degree of it than we weak humans of today.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on March 10, 2003, 04:32 PM:
Yeah, I think (we) city dudes have lost a whole bunch of that sixth sense. It's amazing how little the average slicker thinks about Nature.
Hey, you guys don't hold it against me that I'm a city feller, do you? Hunters get created from spontanious combustion, one can pop up in the unlikeliest of places.
Good hunting. LB
Posted by onecoyote (Member # 129) on March 10, 2003, 05:24 PM:
Leonard, your a country boy all the way. ![[Wink]](wink.gif)
The town you are from produced three pretty good predator hunters, one being yourself. One of the others is probably the best there is, I never heard or seen one better and I think you'd agree. Good Hunting
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on March 10, 2003, 05:49 PM:
Unlikely, Danny. I bet you didn't know that Rick is originally from Pennsylvania..... of all places!
Posted by Terry Hunter (Member # 58) on March 11, 2003, 05:12 PM:
I have a shooting range behind my house.The deer ignore my shooting,and stand between the bench and target.Keeping deer used to gunfire makes great hunting in the fall.
Posted by TrapperDan (Member # 124) on March 14, 2003, 10:11 AM:
I belive the theory about you body putting off different odors . I read that the human body puts off an odor that arouses the opposite sex (dont take me wrong )when he or she is , well you know , wanting "it". You dont recognize it but your body reacts to it ,you know how . I belive this is also possible when hunting and your addrenalin is pumping .
Posted by Rich Higgins (Member # 3) on March 14, 2003, 11:11 AM:
Thank you Dan. That explains the coyotes I have to pry off my leg.
Posted by TrapperDan (Member # 124) on March 14, 2003, 11:16 AM:
Hey Rich , I found its easier to just give them a second , they'll leave when theyre done . Easier than prying them off and you dont risk getting bit .
Posted by Greenside (Member # 10) on March 14, 2003, 11:59 AM:
I'm not much of a believer in this 6th sense theory. I've arrowed enough deer in my life to realize that ESP is probably not a big factor,from a survival stand point. But I do think that most animals are so finely "tuned" to their enviroment that a person might be able to come up with that conclusion. It's sight, sound and smell that's going to save most animals.
BTW: I do try to avoid eye contact with close in animals and turkeys. The same goes for that big, mean S.O.B sitting at the end of the bar.
Dennis
[ March 14, 2003, 12:31 PM: Message edited by: Greenside ]
Posted by Crow Woman (Member # 157) on March 15, 2003, 04:15 AM:
onecoyote hates Crow's??!!?? ![[Eek!]](eek.gif)
ok... I think I will fly back to my perch now After everything we talked about??
Crow Woman
[ March 15, 2003, 04:33 AM: Message edited by: Crow Woman ]
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on March 15, 2003, 08:12 AM:
Why Danny has a hatred for crows is puzzling. I bet he sees more ravens than crows out in the desert, anyway?
But, for Crow Woman: it makes me think of something. At least one member of this board has native american blood of the Crow Indian Tribe. Could that be the origin for your name, and it has nothing to do with the common black bird? Just curious. LB
Posted by onecoyote (Member # 129) on March 15, 2003, 08:47 AM:
Leonard you're right, they are Ravens ( I'm still in trouble) Crow Woman's daughter uses Raven as a nic. I don't really hate crows....Crow Woman, you know me better then that. Hell I don't even shoot em, they just tick me off because they are so darn smart, almost human like sometimes. Leonard, Rick may be from PA. but he went to our high school and ended up a predator hunter supreme. The rest of the predator hunting world does not even know who Rick is and what he has done. I would also have to include Lyle....those two were awesome in there day as a team. I feel very lucky to know both of those guys and to have competed with them, Good Hunting.
Posted by Crow Woman (Member # 157) on March 15, 2003, 08:52 AM:
oh my Leonard. It's a bit of a story, one which probably won't be believed but it's a true story. I'm Seneca actually but I do believe that there are some roots leading to Crow or other Western decendants, that is to be uncovered hopefully someday soon. My neighbor shot two crows, he said they were being mean to the Hawk. He left them in his driveway. Well if anyone truly knows the story behind crow and hawk, it is simply this. Crows are afraid of hawk because at night while crow sleeps hawk is well known for attacking them. During the day, hawk is known for sneaking to their nests and eating the eggs. So you see, there is a bit of history.
I was talking to my neighbor and she told me about her husband and the one crow that was left just laying there. The other one had been carried off. I asked her if I could have the crow. Puzzled a bit, she said yes. From the moment I picked up Crow, lifeless and all, tears poured from within me. It was as if I was holding a family member in my arms. Cradled gently I took him to a friend of mine, also Native. The only words I could muster through the tears were, bring it back to life! He then took Crow from me and sent me home. A few weeks later he called me and said he had a present for me. When I got down there he handed me the skin from Crow, the claws. the skull and a piece of paper with a strange word written on it.
He said, "Koga-a-ge-ha. Your name is Crow Woman from here on out. I hand you these gifts. Your tears have been heard. Within you, Crow will live again. Within you, Crow's beauty will shine again. Within you, Crow will fly again. This is Crow's gift to you. Now go and fly."
Since then, I have learned from crow and her many voices. She has taught me alot about my surroundings. Differant Kaws mean differant messages or warnings. Now, you can hunt whatever you like on my property but if even one shot at the crows or ravens happens you will be band for life. I have made this their sanctuary of sorts. One reason, and here is where the hard to believe comes in, we communicate in a way, they know they are safe around me, they never give me away to the other animals, I have even watched them on two occasions where they will actually fly into the middle of the field and squawk and act like they have a broken wing and make such a racket that they have twice called out coyote to me which was setting just beyond my shooting limits. But by their actions, they brought both of the coyotes in just enough to shoot them. People have gotten quite a bit of education from me that become my friends. They are always telling me of the happenings since they met me with crow.
So, there you have it. I cared just enough to learn from Crow. Crow gifted me with her knowledge. She lets me know when and where coyote is. We make a great team, I think.
hey now, you asked...smiles
Koga-a-ge-ha(Crow Woman)
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